Quote from: SecondClass on June 03, 2016, 06:42:25 PMQuote from: Aether on June 03, 2016, 06:40:25 PMQuote from: SecondClass on June 03, 2016, 06:36:45 PMQuote from: Jive Turkey on June 03, 2016, 05:27:57 PMDo heroin instead will probably feel way betterif I had a connect I honestly probably wouldWow you would willingly try a substance with an extremely high addiction potential, while you are knowingly predisposed to substance abuse. You do have any idea how horrible the suffering of opiate withdrawal is?yeah I don't know if this is a newsflash to you but I'm probably going to live another few years at mostbeing a heroin junkie is fine by me as long as I can keep getting more of itEverything you reveal about your life is a newsflash. I don't know who you really are, honestly.What I can see at least is that, astoundingly, not only are you a fool but you willingly choose to be one as if it's somehow the best thing for you. You seem to care about nothing but fleeting happiness and throw responsibility to the wind. tbh I don't even know what you live for.Don't know what else to say really, you always go on about some terrible thing that has happened to your life but apart from that I've never seen you explain what it is, so I suppose I can't gain any better understanding of you.
Quote from: Aether on June 03, 2016, 06:40:25 PMQuote from: SecondClass on June 03, 2016, 06:36:45 PMQuote from: Jive Turkey on June 03, 2016, 05:27:57 PMDo heroin instead will probably feel way betterif I had a connect I honestly probably wouldWow you would willingly try a substance with an extremely high addiction potential, while you are knowingly predisposed to substance abuse. You do have any idea how horrible the suffering of opiate withdrawal is?yeah I don't know if this is a newsflash to you but I'm probably going to live another few years at mostbeing a heroin junkie is fine by me as long as I can keep getting more of it
Quote from: SecondClass on June 03, 2016, 06:36:45 PMQuote from: Jive Turkey on June 03, 2016, 05:27:57 PMDo heroin instead will probably feel way betterif I had a connect I honestly probably wouldWow you would willingly try a substance with an extremely high addiction potential, while you are knowingly predisposed to substance abuse. You do have any idea how horrible the suffering of opiate withdrawal is?
Quote from: Jive Turkey on June 03, 2016, 05:27:57 PMDo heroin instead will probably feel way betterif I had a connect I honestly probably would
Do heroin instead will probably feel way better
Quote from: Aether on June 03, 2016, 06:50:57 PMQuote from: SecondClass on June 03, 2016, 06:42:25 PMQuote from: Aether on June 03, 2016, 06:40:25 PMQuote from: SecondClass on June 03, 2016, 06:36:45 PMQuote from: Jive Turkey on June 03, 2016, 05:27:57 PMDo heroin instead will probably feel way betterif I had a connect I honestly probably wouldWow you would willingly try a substance with an extremely high addiction potential, while you are knowingly predisposed to substance abuse. You do have any idea how horrible the suffering of opiate withdrawal is?yeah I don't know if this is a newsflash to you but I'm probably going to live another few years at mostbeing a heroin junkie is fine by me as long as I can keep getting more of itEverything you reveal about your life is a newsflash. I don't know who you really are, honestly.What I can see at least is that, astoundingly, not only are you a fool but you willingly choose to be one as if it's somehow the best thing for you. You seem to care about nothing but fleeting happiness and throw responsibility to the wind. tbh I don't even know what you live for.Don't know what else to say really, you always go on about some terrible thing that has happened to your life but apart from that I've never seen you explain what it is, so I suppose I can't gain any better understanding of you.People don't like it when I get all emotional or whatever, so long story short, I have an uncurable condition that makes day to day life almost unbearable. The only thing to do, other than just die, is to fill my life with as much direct pleasure as I can. That can only last so long, though, so I'm not concerned with anything long-term, as I probably won't even be alive to see the results of my choices.
Quote from: SecondClass on June 03, 2016, 07:11:42 PMQuote from: Aether on June 03, 2016, 06:50:57 PMQuote from: SecondClass on June 03, 2016, 06:42:25 PMQuote from: Aether on June 03, 2016, 06:40:25 PMQuote from: SecondClass on June 03, 2016, 06:36:45 PMQuote from: Jive Turkey on June 03, 2016, 05:27:57 PMDo heroin instead will probably feel way betterif I had a connect I honestly probably wouldWow you would willingly try a substance with an extremely high addiction potential, while you are knowingly predisposed to substance abuse. You do have any idea how horrible the suffering of opiate withdrawal is?yeah I don't know if this is a newsflash to you but I'm probably going to live another few years at mostbeing a heroin junkie is fine by me as long as I can keep getting more of itEverything you reveal about your life is a newsflash. I don't know who you really are, honestly.What I can see at least is that, astoundingly, not only are you a fool but you willingly choose to be one as if it's somehow the best thing for you. You seem to care about nothing but fleeting happiness and throw responsibility to the wind. tbh I don't even know what you live for.Don't know what else to say really, you always go on about some terrible thing that has happened to your life but apart from that I've never seen you explain what it is, so I suppose I can't gain any better understanding of you.People don't like it when I get all emotional or whatever, so long story short, I have an uncurable condition that makes day to day life almost unbearable. The only thing to do, other than just die, is to fill my life with as much direct pleasure as I can. That can only last so long, though, so I'm not concerned with anything long-term, as I probably won't even be alive to see the results of my choices.Why do you care if people don't like it when you get emotional but at the same time don't care about the more significant and impactful consequences of your actions?Can you at least name the condition?
Camel Turkish golds fam.Lucky strike unfiltered, or camel wide unfiltered.
Quote from: Aether on June 03, 2016, 08:30:40 PMQuote from: SecondClass on June 03, 2016, 07:11:42 PMQuote from: Aether on June 03, 2016, 06:50:57 PMQuote from: SecondClass on June 03, 2016, 06:42:25 PMQuote from: Aether on June 03, 2016, 06:40:25 PMQuote from: SecondClass on June 03, 2016, 06:36:45 PMQuote from: Jive Turkey on June 03, 2016, 05:27:57 PMDo heroin instead will probably feel way betterif I had a connect I honestly probably wouldWow you would willingly try a substance with an extremely high addiction potential, while you are knowingly predisposed to substance abuse. You do have any idea how horrible the suffering of opiate withdrawal is?yeah I don't know if this is a newsflash to you but I'm probably going to live another few years at mostbeing a heroin junkie is fine by me as long as I can keep getting more of itEverything you reveal about your life is a newsflash. I don't know who you really are, honestly.What I can see at least is that, astoundingly, not only are you a fool but you willingly choose to be one as if it's somehow the best thing for you. You seem to care about nothing but fleeting happiness and throw responsibility to the wind. tbh I don't even know what you live for.Don't know what else to say really, you always go on about some terrible thing that has happened to your life but apart from that I've never seen you explain what it is, so I suppose I can't gain any better understanding of you.People don't like it when I get all emotional or whatever, so long story short, I have an uncurable condition that makes day to day life almost unbearable. The only thing to do, other than just die, is to fill my life with as much direct pleasure as I can. That can only last so long, though, so I'm not concerned with anything long-term, as I probably won't even be alive to see the results of my choices.Why do you care if people don't like it when you get emotional but at the same time don't care about the more significant and impactful consequences of your actions?Can you at least name the condition?Um, one is short term and one is long termI care a little bit about the short term because that actually affects me, I couldn't care less about the long term because I doubt I'll ever see those effects
Quote from: SecondClass on June 03, 2016, 08:36:27 PMQuote from: Aether on June 03, 2016, 08:30:40 PMQuote from: SecondClass on June 03, 2016, 07:11:42 PMQuote from: Aether on June 03, 2016, 06:50:57 PMQuote from: SecondClass on June 03, 2016, 06:42:25 PMQuote from: Aether on June 03, 2016, 06:40:25 PMQuote from: SecondClass on June 03, 2016, 06:36:45 PMQuote from: Jive Turkey on June 03, 2016, 05:27:57 PMDo heroin instead will probably feel way betterif I had a connect I honestly probably wouldWow you would willingly try a substance with an extremely high addiction potential, while you are knowingly predisposed to substance abuse. You do have any idea how horrible the suffering of opiate withdrawal is?yeah I don't know if this is a newsflash to you but I'm probably going to live another few years at mostbeing a heroin junkie is fine by me as long as I can keep getting more of itEverything you reveal about your life is a newsflash. I don't know who you really are, honestly.What I can see at least is that, astoundingly, not only are you a fool but you willingly choose to be one as if it's somehow the best thing for you. You seem to care about nothing but fleeting happiness and throw responsibility to the wind. tbh I don't even know what you live for.Don't know what else to say really, you always go on about some terrible thing that has happened to your life but apart from that I've never seen you explain what it is, so I suppose I can't gain any better understanding of you.People don't like it when I get all emotional or whatever, so long story short, I have an uncurable condition that makes day to day life almost unbearable. The only thing to do, other than just die, is to fill my life with as much direct pleasure as I can. That can only last so long, though, so I'm not concerned with anything long-term, as I probably won't even be alive to see the results of my choices.Why do you care if people don't like it when you get emotional but at the same time don't care about the more significant and impactful consequences of your actions?Can you at least name the condition?Um, one is short term and one is long termI care a little bit about the short term because that actually affects me, I couldn't care less about the long term because I doubt I'll ever see those effectsIt effects other people. I suppose you don't care enough about them huh?No name? Well that's disappointing. I have an awful condition too, a couple in fact. (SIBO and Candidiasis, both severe). They're not incurable but they're both extremely difficult to cure when they're as bad as I have them, and definitely debilitating. I'm also having to be tested for Marfan syndrome which is incurable but manageable.I'm sorry it's fascinating to me. I suffer every day of my life now with extreme exhaustion and chronic inflammation all over, my liver and kidneys take a constant beating from the overload of toxins in my bloodstream, and I can't even eat a slice of bread without suffering in pain. These conditions have sapped years of progress from my life and I have to watch my peers move forward while I remain in a stasis of illness. Despite all of that, I still don't let those things taint my outlook on life, and It's curious to me when others allow their problems to do so.
Or.. you could just stop vaping?
Quote from: SecondClass on June 03, 2016, 09:18:41 PMQuote from: Aether on June 03, 2016, 09:12:32 PMQuote from: SecondClass on June 03, 2016, 08:36:27 PMQuote from: Aether on June 03, 2016, 08:30:40 PMQuote from: SecondClass on June 03, 2016, 07:11:42 PMQuote from: Aether on June 03, 2016, 06:50:57 PMQuote from: SecondClass on June 03, 2016, 06:42:25 PMQuote from: Aether on June 03, 2016, 06:40:25 PMQuote from: SecondClass on June 03, 2016, 06:36:45 PMQuote from: Jive Turkey on June 03, 2016, 05:27:57 PMDo heroin instead will probably feel way betterif I had a connect I honestly probably wouldWow you would willingly try a substance with an extremely high addiction potential, while you are knowingly predisposed to substance abuse. You do have any idea how horrible the suffering of opiate withdrawal is?yeah I don't know if this is a newsflash to you but I'm probably going to live another few years at mostbeing a heroin junkie is fine by me as long as I can keep getting more of itEverything you reveal about your life is a newsflash. I don't know who you really are, honestly.What I can see at least is that, astoundingly, not only are you a fool but you willingly choose to be one as if it's somehow the best thing for you. You seem to care about nothing but fleeting happiness and throw responsibility to the wind. tbh I don't even know what you live for.Don't know what else to say really, you always go on about some terrible thing that has happened to your life but apart from that I've never seen you explain what it is, so I suppose I can't gain any better understanding of you.People don't like it when I get all emotional or whatever, so long story short, I have an uncurable condition that makes day to day life almost unbearable. The only thing to do, other than just die, is to fill my life with as much direct pleasure as I can. That can only last so long, though, so I'm not concerned with anything long-term, as I probably won't even be alive to see the results of my choices.Why do you care if people don't like it when you get emotional but at the same time don't care about the more significant and impactful consequences of your actions?Can you at least name the condition?Um, one is short term and one is long termI care a little bit about the short term because that actually affects me, I couldn't care less about the long term because I doubt I'll ever see those effectsIt effects other people. I suppose you don't care enough about them huh?No name? Well that's disappointing. I have an awful condition too, a couple in fact. (SIBO and Candidiasis, both severe). They're not incurable but they're both extremely difficult to cure when they're as bad as I have them, and definitely debilitating. I'm also having to be tested for Marfan syndrome which is incurable but manageable.I'm sorry it's fascinating to me. I suffer every day of my life now with extreme exhaustion and chronic inflammation all over, my liver and kidneys take a constant beating from the overload of toxins in my bloodstream, and I can't even eat a slice of bread without suffering in pain. These conditions have sapped years of progress from my life and I have to watch my peers move forward while I remain in a stasis of illness. Despite all of that, I still don't let those things taint my outlook on life, and It's curious to me when others allow their problems to do so.I don't really have anyone, and even if I did, who cares? I'm a selfish person, and I'm certainly not going to burden myself with a life, much less a sober one, for someone else's sake. And anyway, my condition is a mental one, not a physical one. GID. You can at least treat SIBO, that's what my aunt has been trying to do. And to be frank, just because you find the will to live despite your condition doesn't mean everyone does or even has to. The only thing I look forward to is getting high because what else is there? Yeah, I could get a career I hate and make money, get a house and all that. I could give to charity with that money, I could volunteer at some shelter. But at the end of the day, that's just going to cause me to be even more drained and annoyed than I would be if I hadn't done that. You can't take your life experiences and push them on everyone else as some lesson or proof that every life is worth living.Can't quit man. Just can't do it. I don't pretend to even be able to understand what your problem is like, but you can't let it destroy you. Try to find something to hold onto, that's worth living for.
Quote from: Aether on June 03, 2016, 09:12:32 PMQuote from: SecondClass on June 03, 2016, 08:36:27 PMQuote from: Aether on June 03, 2016, 08:30:40 PMQuote from: SecondClass on June 03, 2016, 07:11:42 PMQuote from: Aether on June 03, 2016, 06:50:57 PMQuote from: SecondClass on June 03, 2016, 06:42:25 PMQuote from: Aether on June 03, 2016, 06:40:25 PMQuote from: SecondClass on June 03, 2016, 06:36:45 PMQuote from: Jive Turkey on June 03, 2016, 05:27:57 PMDo heroin instead will probably feel way betterif I had a connect I honestly probably wouldWow you would willingly try a substance with an extremely high addiction potential, while you are knowingly predisposed to substance abuse. You do have any idea how horrible the suffering of opiate withdrawal is?yeah I don't know if this is a newsflash to you but I'm probably going to live another few years at mostbeing a heroin junkie is fine by me as long as I can keep getting more of itEverything you reveal about your life is a newsflash. I don't know who you really are, honestly.What I can see at least is that, astoundingly, not only are you a fool but you willingly choose to be one as if it's somehow the best thing for you. You seem to care about nothing but fleeting happiness and throw responsibility to the wind. tbh I don't even know what you live for.Don't know what else to say really, you always go on about some terrible thing that has happened to your life but apart from that I've never seen you explain what it is, so I suppose I can't gain any better understanding of you.People don't like it when I get all emotional or whatever, so long story short, I have an uncurable condition that makes day to day life almost unbearable. The only thing to do, other than just die, is to fill my life with as much direct pleasure as I can. That can only last so long, though, so I'm not concerned with anything long-term, as I probably won't even be alive to see the results of my choices.Why do you care if people don't like it when you get emotional but at the same time don't care about the more significant and impactful consequences of your actions?Can you at least name the condition?Um, one is short term and one is long termI care a little bit about the short term because that actually affects me, I couldn't care less about the long term because I doubt I'll ever see those effectsIt effects other people. I suppose you don't care enough about them huh?No name? Well that's disappointing. I have an awful condition too, a couple in fact. (SIBO and Candidiasis, both severe). They're not incurable but they're both extremely difficult to cure when they're as bad as I have them, and definitely debilitating. I'm also having to be tested for Marfan syndrome which is incurable but manageable.I'm sorry it's fascinating to me. I suffer every day of my life now with extreme exhaustion and chronic inflammation all over, my liver and kidneys take a constant beating from the overload of toxins in my bloodstream, and I can't even eat a slice of bread without suffering in pain. These conditions have sapped years of progress from my life and I have to watch my peers move forward while I remain in a stasis of illness. Despite all of that, I still don't let those things taint my outlook on life, and It's curious to me when others allow their problems to do so.I don't really have anyone, and even if I did, who cares? I'm a selfish person, and I'm certainly not going to burden myself with a life, much less a sober one, for someone else's sake. And anyway, my condition is a mental one, not a physical one. GID. You can at least treat SIBO, that's what my aunt has been trying to do. And to be frank, just because you find the will to live despite your condition doesn't mean everyone does or even has to. The only thing I look forward to is getting high because what else is there? Yeah, I could get a career I hate and make money, get a house and all that. I could give to charity with that money, I could volunteer at some shelter. But at the end of the day, that's just going to cause me to be even more drained and annoyed than I would be if I hadn't done that. You can't take your life experiences and push them on everyone else as some lesson or proof that every life is worth living.
Quote from: Kits on June 03, 2016, 09:15:46 PMOr.. you could just stop vaping?I'm going to have to. Definitely not going to stop smoking, though. If money wasn't an issue, I'd just smoke weed whenever I wanted a cigarette. But that's obviously not the way it is, lol.
You have to want to live, though. We're all gonna die anyway, why cut it short and not see if you can at least eventually find some happiness? That eternal peace isn't going anywhere. It'll be there waiting for us one day or another. I don't see the rush getting there.
Yes, I have a treatable condition, but it's one that isn't taken seriously by mainstream medicine. One that doctors will scoff off as some simple 'discomfort' and prescribe terrible medications that only serve to treat a certain few symptoms and make the underlying condition much much worse in the end. (I've dealt with all of this) For someone who has such a severe case of the condition as I do, it's a very scary thing, not to be able to trust your doctor to get you well, to have them tell you have simply have IBS when there is no cure for. If I hadn't taken the initiative to understand what was happening to me, what was wrong, and what changes I could make to take charge of my life and my health, both physical and mental, I would be so extremely sick right now that I may as well have been suicidal. Certainly hospitalized. One of my organs has already failed me (gallbladder), I'm not losing another because of irresponsible and ignorant medical practices. I've gone through many phases where I felt like no one really believed that I was as sick as I was. That there was no hope to ever overcome my issues. Now I can see it, albeit it's a long and harrowing road ahead. I'm not trying to make a contest out of who is worse off, that would be meaningless, I'm only saying that because my condition is physical doesn't make the suffering I've experienced any less real, and that I haven't been hopeless. I won't soon forget any of that.I never told you to change your ways. The only thing I've ever told you specifically was not to ignore truth and to try to observe things without bias to the best of your abilities. I've already stated you can do as you like and will simply have to face the consequences of your actions.What I'm really doing is merely trying to understand your mindset and compare the differences between my own because it helps me to gain a better understanding of myself as well as how people become the way they are. It's something I am fairly passionate about when I have the energy.
Quote from: SecondClass on June 03, 2016, 09:38:00 PMQuote from: challengerX on June 03, 2016, 09:31:46 PMYou have to want to live, though. We're all gonna die anyway, why cut it short and not see if you can at least eventually find some happiness? That eternal peace isn't going anywhere. It'll be there waiting for us one day or another. I don't see the rush getting there.This is like saying "you're stuck in a vat of lava, why try to leave the vat now when you're eventually going to be released anyway?"There's only one thing that could happen for me to be actually happy, and it won't happen. I'm a pragmatist, I'm not going to go down chasing something I know I'll never get. That's insanity. All I can do is chase down physical pleasures, live out the rest of my life in carnal bliss. And yet, doing that one realistic option, and I become a pariah.Yeah life sucks ass. That doesn't mean you should get lost in drugs. I get you have a condition that causes you mental anguish, but you're being way too dramatic about this. Shit go live in the woods if you're so sick of everything. Or end it all. What the fuck do you want me to tell you. It's your life. If it's all so bad and so terrible and there'll never be anything good for you because you say so, then I guess you know everything just cause you're depressed. Whatever dude.
Quote from: challengerX on June 03, 2016, 09:31:46 PMYou have to want to live, though. We're all gonna die anyway, why cut it short and not see if you can at least eventually find some happiness? That eternal peace isn't going anywhere. It'll be there waiting for us one day or another. I don't see the rush getting there.This is like saying "you're stuck in a vat of lava, why try to leave the vat now when you're eventually going to be released anyway?"There's only one thing that could happen for me to be actually happy, and it won't happen. I'm a pragmatist, I'm not going to go down chasing something I know I'll never get. That's insanity. All I can do is chase down physical pleasures, live out the rest of my life in carnal bliss. And yet, doing that one realistic option, and I become a pariah.
>cigarettes>vaping>ecigsI hope an ecig blows up in your mouth
Quote from: Ender on June 03, 2016, 11:43:12 PM>cigarettes>vaping>ecigsI hope an ecig blows up in your mouthyeah man how dare I do this thing that doesn't affect you whatsoeverisn't that infuriating enough to wish death on someone
Quote from: SecondClass on June 04, 2016, 12:15:09 AMQuote from: Ender on June 03, 2016, 11:43:12 PM>cigarettes>vaping>ecigsI hope an ecig blows up in your mouthyeah man how dare I do this thing that doesn't affect you whatsoeverisn't that infuriating enough to wish death on someoneno I wish you would blow up because you're an idiot in every aspect of life and shit