Does the pay gap exist

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First I was yes, then I was no, but now I don't know.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2017/08/daily-chart?fsrc=scn/fb/te/bl/ed/

Seems to be the issue is higher up the chain than it is lower, and number of people of different genders applying to certain jobs.
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Any real semblance of gender based pay disparity is observed in  older females who aren't agressive in pay negotiation. Younger women raised in a time where they are more empowered and told they can be the breadwinner of the familly are more aggressive like their male counterparts and tend to be valued more similarly.

So more or less, it's a non issue that's fixing itself and may as well be regarded as nonexistent.


 
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You get paid as much as you deserve.


 
 
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You get paid as much as you deserve.
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. Women typically work less and go into lower paying careers as a whole.
I believe that looking at wages across the sexes as a whole is a flawed way of observing a problem and generally ignore most parts of that argument on either end.

You've got to compare like careers to notice any pay disparities that mean anything.


 
 
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If all women were getting paid less on a broader sense, why not just hire women? Cheaper workers.


 
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If all women were getting paid less on a broader sense, why not just hire women? Cheaper workers.
Because women can't do anything right.


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It's a myth based on the misinterpretation of average earnings.

If women can't do simple math then it's a good thing they're not our scientists, doctors and engineers.


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No, it's another non-issue created by retards who desperately look for things to fight for because if they didn't do so otherwise their worthlessness in society would be even more obvious.
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If all women were getting paid less on a broader sense, why not just hire women? Cheaper workers.
Because women can't do anything right.

This is the answer to every female related issue. If you want to see what a matriarchy looks like go look at Sweden and ask yourself why it's now the rape capital of the west.


 
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I agree, but that doesn't mean that there isn't some kind of gap.
But it doesn't mean anything.


 
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If all women were getting paid less on a broader sense, why not just hire women? Cheaper workers.
Because women can't do anything right.

This is the answer to every female related issue. If you want to see what a matriarchy looks like go look at Sweden and ask yourself why it's now the rape capital of the west.
They have an abysmal conviction rate though.

So really nobody in Sweden is  getting raped and women just like making shit up.


 
 
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If all women were getting paid less on a broader sense, why not just hire women? Cheaper workers.
Because women can't do anything right.

This is the answer to every female related issue. If you want to see what a matriarchy looks like go look at Sweden and ask yourself why it's now the rape capital of the west.
They have an abysmal conviction rate though.

So really nobody in Sweden is  getting raped and women just like making shit up.

Oh yeah there's no doubt the feminists in Sweden make shit up but I was referring to the muslims that have been raping women on the daily.


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If all women were getting paid less on a broader sense, why not just hire women? Cheaper workers.
Because women can't do anything right.

This is the answer to every female related issue. If you want to see what a matriarchy looks like go look at Sweden and ask yourself why it's now the rape capital of the west.
Because it has the most lenient system of recording rape cases out of any country I know of. It also has a culture much more open to reporting these crimes.

Or, you know, the muslims who raised the number of rapes.


 
 
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If all women were getting paid less on a broader sense, why not just hire women? Cheaper workers.
Because women can't do anything right.


This is the answer to every female related issue. If you want to see what a matriarchy looks like go look at Sweden and ask yourself why it's now the rape capital of the west.
Because it has the most lenient system of recording rape cases out of any country I know of. It also has a culture much more open to reporting these crimes.

Or, you know, the muslims who raised the number of rapes.
Then how do you explain that crime victimization surveys place Sweden at the same level as other Western countries, or that the rate of reported rapes has is no higher than it was in 2010 (before the start of the "massive Muslim immigration")?

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape

That is false. After Sweden's decision to become a multicultural society, the crime raised 300% and the rapes percentage increased by over 1000%.


 
 
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>citing gatestone for anything

LOL you stupid fucking cuck. They're led by a literal self described Zionist.


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If all women were getting paid less on a broader sense, why not just hire women? Cheaper workers.
Because women can't do anything right.


This is the answer to every female related issue. If you want to see what a matriarchy looks like go look at Sweden and ask yourself why it's now the rape capital of the west.
Because it has the most lenient system of recording rape cases out of any country I know of. It also has a culture much more open to reporting these crimes.

Or, you know, the muslims who raised the number of rapes.
Then how do you explain that crime victimization surveys place Sweden at the same level as other Western countries, or that the rate of reported rapes has is no higher than it was in 2010 (before the start of the "massive Muslim immigration")?

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape

That is false. After Sweden's decision to become a multicultural society, the crime raised 300% and the rapes percentage increased by over 1000%.
>gatestone institute

"A right-wing[2][3][4] think tank that publishes articles, particularly those involving Muslims or the Middle East. The organization has been criticized for publishing inaccurate articles." Nice, let me just cite "MuslimsAreGoodForSweden.com" as my counterargument.

And no, it isn't false. Their methodology is plain ridiculous. Its starting point is over 40 years ago, which is perfectly in line with many other countries accepting more guest migrant workers. If we look at when the actual major wave of immigration hit in the last 10 years or so, there's been little to no change in rape rates despite the largest increase in (Muslim) immigrants Sweden has seen in ages. Second generation immigrants causing crime has got pretty much nothing to do with religion.

Also, you gotta love how the Gatestone report chooses not to use actual rates in relevancy to population, but instead focus on absolute numbers. Do you know how many rapes the US recorded in the 1960s? Just over 15k. 2015? Almost 100k. Holy fucking shit, the number of rapes went up by almost 666% in that time period. But wait, the amount of guns in the US increased by almost 500% in that same time period. Clearly, it's guns causing this increase in rape. Not the widespread campaigns to promote women actually reporting the crime, or the police and prosecution becoming more supportive of rape claims, or the definition of the crime becoming broader, or the culture becoming more open towards talking about it instead of considering it a shameful thing that should be hidden and not talked about. No, it must be a convenient scapegoat. Looking at absolute numbers is just shameful and a game both can play. The amount of aggravated assaults in the US since this date? Increase by 600%. Violent crime? 500%

The more I read through this, the more utterly ridiculous it becomes. The report is seriously arguing that, and no, I'm not joking, the entire Swedish population growth in the last 40 years is "entirely due to immigration". Fuck me, now I've gotta go tell all of the (completely white) Swedes age 40 and below that they're actually immigrant offspring.

Read this, this, this, this and this instead.

I'm not at all in favor of unrestricted immigration and realize it comes with issues of crime, (poor) assimilation and culture clashes. But this whole "Sweden is letting in muzzies and now all their women are just raped everywhere" rhetoric doesn't have a lot of bearing in reality. It has its issues and I'm sure some cultures are more prone to commiting certain crimes than others, but that's a lot of bias you're pushing right now.

https://www.bra.se/bra-in-english/home/crime-and-statistics.html

Take the statistics from an official Swedish crime database then.

Specifically the sexual offences percentage that rose in 2009, 2013, and 2015.
2014 being the greatest year for threats, sexual offenses and harassment, with all 3 steadily increasing into 2017.

But of course Sweden hides the race and backgrounds of these people, to, well let Andrew Brown from The Guardian tell you why: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jan/13/sex-assaults-sweden-stockholm-music-festival
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If all women were getting paid less on a broader sense, why not just hire women? Cheaper workers.
Because women can't do anything right.

This is the answer to every female related issue. If you want to see what a matriarchy looks like go look at Sweden and ask yourself why it's now the rape capital of the west.
They have an abysmal conviction rate though.

So really nobody in Sweden is  getting raped and women just like making shit up.

Oh yeah there's no doubt the feminists in Sweden make shit up but I was referring to the muslims that have been raping women on the daily.

Actually no, I did research on this and the spikes in Rape came only after the definition if Rape changed and how rape is recorded. Every instance of rape is a new rape case unlike other countries.

I mean their definition is so crazy broad it adds even harrasment as rape. Also the spikes in Rape cases can be tied to immigrants who are the biggest victims of it.

Also number convicted have remained the same.

Rape cases in Sweden can not be compared to any other nation in the world. They have a definition and counting system that is very different and inflates their number. Why? Because of their feminist policy.

If any other nation on Earth had their definition and method of counting you could see a giant spike in rape cases the next year. An abnormal increase.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Sweden
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Who paid you to look at this?
If all women were getting paid less on a broader sense, why not just hire women? Cheaper workers.
Because women can't do anything right.

This is the answer to every female related issue. If you want to see what a matriarchy looks like go look at Sweden and ask yourself why it's now the rape capital of the west.
They have an abysmal conviction rate though.

So really nobody in Sweden is  getting raped and women just like making shit up.

Oh yeah there's no doubt the feminists in Sweden make shit up but I was referring to the muslims that have been raping women on the daily.

Actually no, I did research on this and the spikes in Rape came only after the definition if Rape changed and how rape is recorded. Every instance of rape is a new rape case unlike other countries.

I mean their definition is so crazy broad it adds even harrasment as rape. Also the spikes in Rape cases can be tied to immigrants who are the biggest victims of it.

Also number convicted have remained the same.

Rape cases in Sweden can not be compared to any other nation in the world. They have a definition and counting system that is very different and inflates their number. Why? Because of their feminist policy.

If any other nation on Earth had their definition and method of counting you could see a giant spike in rape cases the next year. An abnormal increase.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Sweden

See my last reply. Sexual offences have been rising steadily since 2014 and Sweden purposely hides rape/sexual harassment cases by Muslims to avoid ''racial tensions''.


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If all women were getting paid less on a broader sense, why not just hire women? Cheaper workers.
Because women can't do anything right.

This is the answer to every female related issue. If you want to see what a matriarchy looks like go look at Sweden and ask yourself why it's now the rape capital of the west.
They have an abysmal conviction rate though.

So really nobody in Sweden is  getting raped and women just like making shit up.

Oh yeah there's no doubt the feminists in Sweden make shit up but I was referring to the muslims that have been raping women on the daily.

Actually no, I did research on this and the spikes in Rape came only after the definition if Rape changed and how rape is recorded. Every instance of rape is a new rape case unlike other countries.

I mean their definition is so crazy broad it adds even harrasment as rape. Also the spikes in Rape cases can be tied to immigrants who are the biggest victims of it.

Also number convicted have remained the same.

Rape cases in Sweden can not be compared to any other nation in the world. They have a definition and counting system that is very different and inflates their number. Why? Because of their feminist policy.

If any other nation on Earth had their definition and method of counting you could see a giant spike in rape cases the next year. An abnormal increase.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Sweden

See my last reply. Sexual offences have been rising steadily since 2014 and Sweden purposely hides rape/sexual harassment cases by Muslims to avoid ''racial tensions''.
Rape cases increased in 2014 due to definition change. 2015 it dropped 11%-12%, this is when the refugee crisis began.

Also in Malmo the city at the center of this, sexual assault peaks were in 2008, 2009, and 2010, before refugees.

And for rape these are the acts included.
"Rape is one of the sexual offences, but other crimes such as paying for sex, sexual harassment, indecent exposure, sexual exploitation, molestation and trafficking are included in the numbers as well."
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-39056786

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/radio4/moreorless/moreorless_20120917-1200a.mp3

Now I know you are going to attack BBC so I might as well get you more sources.

Also when it comes to Swedish Crime reporting from one of the sources you linked.

"Swedish statistics, on the other hand, record all reported events as crimes even if some of them are later found not to have constituted criminal offences."

"Several offences of the same kind against a single victim will be counted in some countries as a single crime. By contrast, in Swedish crime statistics every offence occurring under these circumstances is counted separately"

Take these two quotes into account when looking at Swedish Crime data, they can not be compared to any other nation especially as they have a really high reporting rate compared to any nation in the world. Many rape cases in third world countries are never reported, while in the West a significant amount are still not reported.

http://www.bra.se/bra-in-english/home/crime-and-statistics/crime-statistics.html

And last of all this paragraph of rape.

"Exposure to sex crimes average
Instead of looking at the statistics for crimes reported — which in any case merely show a proportion of the actual number of crimes — criminologists instead recommend comparisons between countries based on large surveys of the general public, so-called victim surveys. Sex crimes, such as rape, are in themselves not easy to investigate using victim surveys, as they relate to sensitive experiences and because the attitude to sex crimes varies between countries.

But in the victim survey that exists that permits basic comparison between levels of exposure to sex crimes in ten European countries (ICVS 1989–2000), Sweden does not top the list, as in the reporting statistics. Instead, Sweden is around the average mark, which is also the case for assaults and threats, despite the fact that compared to other countries, we have many such crimes reported. However, the fact that we are not any worse than many other countries does not mean that the situation is good. If any rape is committed, the level is too high."

https://www.bra.se/bra-in-english/home/news-from-bra/archive/news/2011-01-18-how-common-is-rape-in-sweden-compared-to-other-european-countries.html


Also read all the way through, after the definition change there was a spike, a drop in 2015 then a return to numbers of 2014 when the definition changed and the spike occurred.

https://www.bra.se/bra-in-english/home/crime-and-statistics/rape-and-sex-offences.html

I implore you, not to put your narrative into these graphs and what you believe and read the details to the statistics. You will find you are jumping to conclusions when there is no data to support your hypothesis.

"Reported offences
In 2016, a total of 20,300 sex offences were reported; this is a 12 per cent increase as compared with 2015. The number of rapes reported to police increased by 13 per cent to 6,720 between 2015 and 2016.
The number of reported rape offences has increased over the last ten years (2006-2015). The increase can be partially explained by the entry into force of new sex offence legislation on 1 April 2005. This legislation entails, among other things, that certain acts which were previously classified as sexual exploitation are now classified as rape. The effect of the statutory change appeared in the statistics such that the number of reported offences in respect of sexual coercion and exploitation declined in the years immediately following the statutory change while the number of reported rapes increased. As from 1 July 2013, the sex offence legislation was again made tougher; among other things rape was expanded to include cases where the victim reacts passively.
In the Swedish system, individual reports regarding a great number of offences may affect and give rise to variations in the statistic. For instance, when a single case is reported that turns out to involve hundreds or even thousands of instances of offences committed against an individual over the course of many years, every single incident is recorded as an offence in the year it was reported. It is also important to remember that non-reporting is particularly extensive for sex offences and changes in the inclination to report can affect the number of rapes in the statistic.     
Reported offences regarding sexual molestation increased to 10,600 (+21 %) while reported sexual coercion, exploitation etc. decreased to 1,290 (-10 %).
A total of 3,010 rape offences against children aged 0 to 17 years of age were reported in 2016. In 88 per cent of the cases, the victims were girls."
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If all women were getting paid less on a broader sense, why not just hire women? Cheaper workers.
Because women can't do anything right.

This is the answer to every female related issue. If you want to see what a matriarchy looks like go look at Sweden and ask yourself why it's now the rape capital of the west.
They have an abysmal conviction rate though.

So really nobody in Sweden is  getting raped and women just like making shit up.

Oh yeah there's no doubt the feminists in Sweden make shit up but I was referring to the muslims that have been raping women on the daily.

Actually no, I did research on this and the spikes in Rape came only after the definition if Rape changed and how rape is recorded. Every instance of rape is a new rape case unlike other countries.

I mean their definition is so crazy broad it adds even harrasment as rape. Also the spikes in Rape cases can be tied to immigrants who are the biggest victims of it.

Also number convicted have remained the same.

Rape cases in Sweden can not be compared to any other nation in the world. They have a definition and counting system that is very different and inflates their number. Why? Because of their feminist policy.

If any other nation on Earth had their definition and method of counting you could see a giant spike in rape cases the next year. An abnormal increase.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Sweden

See my last reply. Sexual offences have been rising steadily since 2014 and Sweden purposely hides rape/sexual harassment cases by Muslims to avoid ''racial tensions''.
Rape cases increased in 2014 due to definition change. 2015 it dropped 11%-12%, this is when the refugee crisis began.

Also in Malmo the city at the center of this, sexual assault peaks were in 2008, 2009, and 2010, before refugees.

And for rape these are the acts included.
"Rape is one of the sexual offences, but other crimes such as paying for sex, sexual harassment, indecent exposure, sexual exploitation, molestation and trafficking are included in the numbers as well."
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-39056786

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/radio4/moreorless/moreorless_20120917-1200a.mp3

Now I know you are going to attack BBC so I might as well get you more sources.

Also when it comes to Swedish Crime reporting from one of the sources you linked.

"Swedish statistics, on the other hand, record all reported events as crimes even if some of them are later found not to have constituted criminal offences."

"Several offences of the same kind against a single victim will be counted in some countries as a single crime. By contrast, in Swedish crime statistics every offence occurring under these circumstances is counted separately"

Take these two quotes into account when looking at Swedish Crime data, they can not be compared to any other nation especially as they have a really high reporting rate compared to any nation in the world. Many rape cases in third world countries are never reported, while in the West a significant amount are still not reported.

http://www.bra.se/bra-in-english/home/crime-and-statistics/crime-statistics.html

And last of all this paragraph of rape.

"Exposure to sex crimes average
Instead of looking at the statistics for crimes reported — which in any case merely show a proportion of the actual number of crimes — criminologists instead recommend comparisons between countries based on large surveys of the general public, so-called victim surveys. Sex crimes, such as rape, are in themselves not easy to investigate using victim surveys, as they relate to sensitive experiences and because the attitude to sex crimes varies between countries.

But in the victim survey that exists that permits basic comparison between levels of exposure to sex crimes in ten European countries (ICVS 1989–2000), Sweden does not top the list, as in the reporting statistics. Instead, Sweden is around the average mark, which is also the case for assaults and threats, despite the fact that compared to other countries, we have many such crimes reported. However, the fact that we are not any worse than many other countries does not mean that the situation is good. If any rape is committed, the level is too high."

https://www.bra.se/bra-in-english/home/news-from-bra/archive/news/2011-01-18-how-common-is-rape-in-sweden-compared-to-other-european-countries.html


Also read all the way through, after the definition change there was a spike, a drop in 2015 then a return to numbers of 2014 when the definition changed and the spike occurred.

https://www.bra.se/bra-in-english/home/crime-and-statistics/rape-and-sex-offences.html

I implore you, not to put your narrative into these graphs and what you believe and read the details to the statistics. You will find you are jumping to conclusions when there is no data to support your hypothesis.

"Reported offences
In 2016, a total of 20,300 sex offences were reported; this is a 12 per cent increase as compared with 2015. The number of rapes reported to police increased by 13 per cent to 6,720 between 2015 and 2016.
The number of reported rape offences has increased over the last ten years (2006-2015). The increase can be partially explained by the entry into force of new sex offence legislation on 1 April 2005. This legislation entails, among other things, that certain acts which were previously classified as sexual exploitation are now classified as rape. The effect of the statutory change appeared in the statistics such that the number of reported offences in respect of sexual coercion and exploitation declined in the years immediately following the statutory change while the number of reported rapes increased. As from 1 July 2013, the sex offence legislation was again made tougher; among other things rape was expanded to include cases where the victim reacts passively.
In the Swedish system, individual reports regarding a great number of offences may affect and give rise to variations in the statistic. For instance, when a single case is reported that turns out to involve hundreds or even thousands of instances of offences committed against an individual over the course of many years, every single incident is recorded as an offence in the year it was reported. It is also important to remember that non-reporting is particularly extensive for sex offences and changes in the inclination to report can affect the number of rapes in the statistic.     
Reported offences regarding sexual molestation increased to 10,600 (+21 %) while reported sexual coercion, exploitation etc. decreased to 1,290 (-10 %).
A total of 3,010 rape offences against children aged 0 to 17 years of age were reported in 2016. In 88 per cent of the cases, the victims were girls."

Ah, didn't know about the definition changing so dramaticly in 2015. Still though, the Muslims haven't been treating the Swedes so nicely especially with their growing numbers.


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If all women were getting paid less on a broader sense, why not just hire women? Cheaper workers.
Because women can't do anything right.

This is the answer to every female related issue. If you want to see what a matriarchy looks like go look at Sweden and ask yourself why it's now the rape capital of the west.
They have an abysmal conviction rate though.

So really nobody in Sweden is  getting raped and women just like making shit up.

Oh yeah there's no doubt the feminists in Sweden make shit up but I was referring to the muslims that have been raping women on the daily.

Actually no, I did research on this and the spikes in Rape came only after the definition if Rape changed and how rape is recorded. Every instance of rape is a new rape case unlike other countries.

I mean their definition is so crazy broad it adds even harrasment as rape. Also the spikes in Rape cases can be tied to immigrants who are the biggest victims of it.

Also number convicted have remained the same.

Rape cases in Sweden can not be compared to any other nation in the world. They have a definition and counting system that is very different and inflates their number. Why? Because of their feminist policy.

If any other nation on Earth had their definition and method of counting you could see a giant spike in rape cases the next year. An abnormal increase.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Sweden

See my last reply. Sexual offences have been rising steadily since 2014 and Sweden purposely hides rape/sexual harassment cases by Muslims to avoid ''racial tensions''.
Rape cases increased in 2014 due to definition change. 2015 it dropped 11%-12%, this is when the refugee crisis began.

Also in Malmo the city at the center of this, sexual assault peaks were in 2008, 2009, and 2010, before refugees.

And for rape these are the acts included.
"Rape is one of the sexual offences, but other crimes such as paying for sex, sexual harassment, indecent exposure, sexual exploitation, molestation and trafficking are included in the numbers as well."
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-39056786

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/radio4/moreorless/moreorless_20120917-1200a.mp3

Now I know you are going to attack BBC so I might as well get you more sources.

Also when it comes to Swedish Crime reporting from one of the sources you linked.

"Swedish statistics, on the other hand, record all reported events as crimes even if some of them are later found not to have constituted criminal offences."

"Several offences of the same kind against a single victim will be counted in some countries as a single crime. By contrast, in Swedish crime statistics every offence occurring under these circumstances is counted separately"

Take these two quotes into account when looking at Swedish Crime data, they can not be compared to any other nation especially as they have a really high reporting rate compared to any nation in the world. Many rape cases in third world countries are never reported, while in the West a significant amount are still not reported.

http://www.bra.se/bra-in-english/home/crime-and-statistics/crime-statistics.html

And last of all this paragraph of rape.

"Exposure to sex crimes average
Instead of looking at the statistics for crimes reported — which in any case merely show a proportion of the actual number of crimes — criminologists instead recommend comparisons between countries based on large surveys of the general public, so-called victim surveys. Sex crimes, such as rape, are in themselves not easy to investigate using victim surveys, as they relate to sensitive experiences and because the attitude to sex crimes varies between countries.

But in the victim survey that exists that permits basic comparison between levels of exposure to sex crimes in ten European countries (ICVS 1989–2000), Sweden does not top the list, as in the reporting statistics. Instead, Sweden is around the average mark, which is also the case for assaults and threats, despite the fact that compared to other countries, we have many such crimes reported. However, the fact that we are not any worse than many other countries does not mean that the situation is good. If any rape is committed, the level is too high."

https://www.bra.se/bra-in-english/home/news-from-bra/archive/news/2011-01-18-how-common-is-rape-in-sweden-compared-to-other-european-countries.html


Also read all the way through, after the definition change there was a spike, a drop in 2015 then a return to numbers of 2014 when the definition changed and the spike occurred.

https://www.bra.se/bra-in-english/home/crime-and-statistics/rape-and-sex-offences.html

I implore you, not to put your narrative into these graphs and what you believe and read the details to the statistics. You will find you are jumping to conclusions when there is no data to support your hypothesis.

"Reported offences
In 2016, a total of 20,300 sex offences were reported; this is a 12 per cent increase as compared with 2015. The number of rapes reported to police increased by 13 per cent to 6,720 between 2015 and 2016.
The number of reported rape offences has increased over the last ten years (2006-2015). The increase can be partially explained by the entry into force of new sex offence legislation on 1 April 2005. This legislation entails, among other things, that certain acts which were previously classified as sexual exploitation are now classified as rape. The effect of the statutory change appeared in the statistics such that the number of reported offences in respect of sexual coercion and exploitation declined in the years immediately following the statutory change while the number of reported rapes increased. As from 1 July 2013, the sex offence legislation was again made tougher; among other things rape was expanded to include cases where the victim reacts passively.
In the Swedish system, individual reports regarding a great number of offences may affect and give rise to variations in the statistic. For instance, when a single case is reported that turns out to involve hundreds or even thousands of instances of offences committed against an individual over the course of many years, every single incident is recorded as an offence in the year it was reported. It is also important to remember that non-reporting is particularly extensive for sex offences and changes in the inclination to report can affect the number of rapes in the statistic.     
Reported offences regarding sexual molestation increased to 10,600 (+21 %) while reported sexual coercion, exploitation etc. decreased to 1,290 (-10 %).
A total of 3,010 rape offences against children aged 0 to 17 years of age were reported in 2016. In 88 per cent of the cases, the victims were girls."

Ah, didn't know about the definition changing so dramaticly in 2015. Still though, the Muslims haven't been treating the Swedes so nicely especially with their growing numbers.

Now that is a whole different discussion on which we are placing our on bias without actually getting any data. Crime has not increased. And one would assume as Sweden is in the EU, that any spike in crime would have occurred after the Schengen was introduced, the free movement of people. Especially considering how deep the eastern European Bloc nation's are involved in the crime organization like the Roma communities, but that just like what you are doing is generalizing.

The most plausible explanation is the these refugees are most likely trying to find something the seems common to them, which may be leading to creation of enclaves. In a sense a ghetto, something that should not be allowed at all, as it could lead to one group having a harder time integrating. These also leads to parallel communities, that can be distrusting of their local government. Failure to instill a sense of nationalism or at least strong connection to a countries Constitution is something that can hurt a nation. Yeah it is assimilation but it works, and allows for the blending of the two cultures even if enclaves exist.

But until I get more info and maybe visit Sweden myself I won't know the story of what is really going on there. It is like saying there is a shooting epidemic and an out of control  police force having Target practice on minorities, with no oversight, in the US, but not understanding the nuances and such as to why this is an exaggerated and likely mistaken story.

So I really do advise not to make a conclusion until you have a more clear understanding and more data with you.

Funny thing to note, alot of Muslims and brown people that voted for Brexit, did so cause they said the Polish were taking their jobs. Majority of the Brexiters reasoning is due to decrease in wages is what resulted in Brexit similar to US, and the main Target of these were the Polish communities who like the Mexicans would apply for a job and work for alot less pay than the British citizen no matter of colour.

Mind you I do not know much about the UK.