Quote from: Kirlia on June 04, 2016, 06:11:03 PM

If the market is saturated, how come the value of the films continues to rise?

It's econ 101.

The capital value goes down when the market becomes saturated.

They're only just now beginning to tap into the value of this market, and people's tolerance for it.

Because we're not speaking in obsolete economic terms. Whether something is saturated in a bullshit capitalist sense doesn't matter, because that's not a rational standard of judgment.

The value of the films continues to rise because people feel obligated to see them all. It's not actual value.
They just have a vice-grip on your balls.

Kinda like cigarettes and meth.

That's capitalism for you.

Civil War (The best Marvel movie, and up there with TDK for best hero film in general)

That's a bold comparison. I still need to see it, but I haven't seen First Avenger or Winter Soldier yet either.

but that's just because i dislike captain america on a conceptual level

Quote from: Prime Kruphix on June 04, 2016, 06:01:30 PM

Treat them like comics. Follow the ones you like forget that the others exist. You might miss a few in jokes, but everything crucial to Avengers #61 will be told within the film.

Yeah, that's what I do anyway. I'm just trying to illustrate how saturated the industry is becoming with them, and that Turkey's being just a little obtuse about it.

I can't compel you to believe something you don't, but the 'superhero fatigue/saturation' meme is hardly persuasive when there are the same complaints leveled against the young-adult/teen trope (Hunger Games, Divergent, Maze Runner) with much fewer and less frequent releases, while none aimed at examples such as spy thrillers, college comedies, gross-out comedies, etc. which are released much more frequently than Marvel or DC. Marvel (and DC to some extent) aren't even just releasing "superhero movies", they're releasing comic book-based movies with a wide range of tones, themes, settings, cast, and style. Captain America: Winter Soldier is more of a spy thriller than it is a typical superhero movie; Guardians of the Galaxy is more of a space opera; Ant Man is a heist movie with a gimmick; Deadpool is canonized satire parody. If they were releasing movies that felt and looked the same, like the Man of Steel series, there'd be a lot more cause for criticizing saturation of the industry with too little innovation, but that's just not something that can be said of Marvel.

I can't compel you to believe something you don't, but the 'superhero fatigue/saturation' meme is hardly persuasive when there are the same complaints leveled against the young-adult/teen trope (Hunger Games, Divergent, Maze Runner) with much fewer and less frequent releases, while none aimed at examples such as spy thrillers, college comedies, gross-out comedies, etc. which are released much more frequently than Marvel or DC. Marvel (and DC to some extent) aren't even just releasing "superhero movies", they're releasing comic book-based movies with a wide range of tones, themes, settings, cast, and style. Captain America: Winter Soldier is more of a spy thriller than it is a typical superhero movie; Guardians of the Galaxy is more of a space opera; Ant Man is a heist movie with a gimmick; Deadpool is canonized satire parody. If they were releasing movies that felt and looked the same, like the Man of Steel series, there'd be a lot more cause for criticizing saturation of the industry with too little innovation, but that's just not something that can be said of Marvel.

Well, keep in mind that spy thrillers, college comedies, and gross-out comedies are catered, appeal to, and are marketed towards a narrower demographic. Superhero movies are wholesome fun for the whole family. And since they appeal highly to children and manchildren alike (which is not a shot at you or anybody, just a statement of fact), there's going to be heavy merchandising.

There is no merchandising for Seth Rogen's 76th stoner comedy. Maybe a T-shirt with a dumb quote on it. Marvel merchandising, on the other hand, is a whole nother ballpark. You can expect to see entire store chains decked out with Avengers-themed shit across every aisle. It's inescapable--and that sort of thing, too, also plays a part in the fatiguing process.

I like Marvels universe more than others

Marvel movies are good but at the same time overrated.