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Do you like Marvel films?

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Tbh, I'm bored to tears of superhero films in general. They all seem so damn identical it's like I've already watched it before. And I hate Disney, hate giving them my money.

I'll only watch one if RDJ is in it, cause I'm a little gay for him.


 
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Some of them are pretty good, some of them are pretty boring.

Lately I've been harboring a lot of franchise fatigue, and I haven't seen an MCU film since Avengers 2.


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Yeah, they're great. The MCU is a hugely impressive cinematic achievement, and they singlehandedly turned comic book movies from cult hits or outright jokes into the most compelling and popular trend in film history.

Even the worst ones (Iron Man 3, Thor 2, etc) are still solid action flicks.
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Superhero movies were oversaturated by the time the first Avengers came out


 
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Superhero movies were oversaturated by the time the first Avengers came out

Yeah, all of those 2 Marvel movies released per year is just too much.


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Superhero movies were oversaturated by the time the first Avengers came out

Yeah, all of those 2 Marvel movies released per year is just too much.
even one per year is too much

superhero shit is lame as hell


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Superhero movies were oversaturated by the time the first Avengers came out

Yeah, all of those 2 Marvel movies released per year is just too much.
even one per year is too much

superhero shit is lame as hell

That's like saying westerns or space operas are lame as hell. It's just the current version of classical mythologies and hero journeys.


 
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Superhero movies were oversaturated by the time the first Avengers came out

Yeah, all of those 2 Marvel movies released per year is just too much.
even one per year is too much

superhero shit is lame as hell

That's like saying westerns or space operas are lame as hell. It's just the current version of classical mythologies and hero journeys.
space operas are also lame as hell


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Well Marvel movies are general competently made and enjoyable, so...yeah.


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Yes, because I'm not a soulless edgelord pseudocritic.


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Yes, because I'm not a soulless edgelord pseudocritic.
>not liking this one specific subgenre of action films makes you an edgelord

keep memeing bro XD


 
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Superhero movies were oversaturated by the time the first Avengers came out
Yeah, all of those 2 Marvel movies released per year is just too much.
When you put it that way, it actually does sound like a lot.

For a franchise, a movie per year is insane. The Harry Potter films were very punctual--one movie per year, but occasionally, they'd take an extra year. Still, that was considered extremely punctual, timely, and I'd even say miraculous.

Historically, James Bond films have usually taken at least two years to make--and since License to Kill, they've been tapering off even slower--now we're lucky to see another Bond film in three years or less.

The Star Wars trilogy had long three year gaps between each film.

Then, of course, there's Pirates of the Caribbean. On only one occasion has a Pirates movie had a one year gap between two films.

X-Men movies have also had two-to-three year gaps, but they've been ramping up in recent years for obvious reasons.

Sam Raimi's Spider-Man films all had reasonable gaps between them--two years, then another three years.

I can go on and on. For a film franchise to produce a new movie every six months on average, that's unprecedented--especially when you consider the budget and scope of each film. There's just so many, and they come so often. When you look at the schedule for upcoming MCU films, you'll see that there are three MCU films planned for 2017 and 2018. They've introduced so many characters to keep track of and to have their own little spin-offs.

It shouldn't be a surprise to see that some people would be a little fatigued by this.
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Yes, because I'm not a soulless edgelord pseudocritic.
>not liking this one specific subgenre of action films makes you an edgelord

keep memeing bro XD
I would say the "soulless" part would more apply to you


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When you put it that way, it actually does sound like a lot.

For a franchise, a movie per year is insane. The Harry Potter films were very punctual--one movie per year, but occasionally, they'd take an extra year. Still, that was considered extremely punctual and timely.

Historically, James Bond films have usually taken at least two years to make--and since License to Kill, they've been tapering off even slower--now we're lucky to see another Bond film in less than three years.

The Star Wars trilogy had long three year gaps between each film.

On only one occasion has a Pirates of the Caribbean film had a one year gap between two films.

X-Men movies also had two-to-three year gaps, but they've been ramping up in recent years for obvious reasons.

Sam Raimi's Spider-Man films all had reasonable gaps between them--two years, then another three years.

I can go on and on. For a film franchise to produce a new movie every six months on average, that's unprecedented--especially when you consider the budget and scope of each film. There's just so many, and they come so often. When you look at the schedule for upcoming MCU films, you'll see that there are three MCU films planned for 2017 and 2018. They've introduced so many characters to keep track of and to have their own little spin-offs.

It shouldn't be a surprise to see that some people would be a little fatigued by this.
To be fair, this isn't just a movie series, it's an entire universe with different casts and directors with each movie. Despite OP claiming the opposite, every movie won't have much in common with the previous. When they start coming out with Star Wars movies every year, I'll probably be able to understand Star Wars fatigue (especially with the  huge following the series has) but for the MCU, it seems a bit unwarranted.


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Superhero movies were oversaturated by the time the first Avengers came out
Yeah, all of those 2 Marvel movies released per year is just too much.
I can go on and on. For a film franchise to produce a new movie every six months on average, that's unprecedented--especially when you consider the budget and scope of each film.

But what makes the Marvel movies different the franchises you listed is that these movies have different directors, characters, settings, themes, tones, ect.  If James Bond had 1 movie a year and every other year a film featuring a female agent lead with a unique character, it wouldn't be that bad.

Stars seems to be doing something similar with Rogue One and movie 8.


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Superhero movies were oversaturated by the time the first Avengers came out
Yeah, all of those 2 Marvel movies released per year is just too much.
When you put it that way, it actually does sound like a lot.

For a franchise, a movie per year is insane. The Harry Potter films were very punctual--one movie per year, but occasionally, they'd take an extra year. Still, that was considered extremely punctual, timely, and I'd even say miraculous.

Historically, James Bond films have usually taken at least two years to make--and since License to Kill, they've been tapering off even slower--now we're lucky to see another Bond film in less than three years.

The Star Wars trilogy had long three year gaps between each film.

On only one occasion has a Pirates of the Caribbean film had a one year gap between two films.

X-Men movies also had two-to-three year gaps, but they've been ramping up in recent years for obvious reasons.

Sam Raimi's Spider-Man films all had reasonable gaps between them--two years, then another three years.

I can go on and on. For a film franchise to produce a new movie every six months on average, that's unprecedented--especially when you consider the budget and scope of each film. There's just so many, and they come so often. When you look at the schedule for upcoming MCU films, you'll see that there are three MCU films planned for 2017 and 2018. They've introduced so many characters to keep track of and to have their own little spin-offs.

It shouldn't be a surprise to see that some people would be a little fatigued by this.

The MCU isn't a franchise though; they're made by different studios and directors. Iron Man as a franchise has released 3 movies over 5 years--so has Captain America. As for superhero fatigue, MovieBob (a fairly respected critic) has a decent article about it.

All things considered, Marvel and DC released a total of 3 movies last year. Of the 8,760 hours in a year, you probably spent fewer than 8 of them in a theater viewing superhero movies in 2015. People may feel saturated when they see the release plans they share, with up to 3 movies releasing yearly (all spaced out pretty well), but I'd wager that a lot of that feeling actually comes from how popular and frequently discussed they are, a symptom of basically anything that becomes popular.
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Superhero movies were oversaturated by the time the first Avengers came out

Yeah, all of those 2 Marvel movies released per year is just too much.
even one per year is too much

superhero shit is lame as hell

That's like saying westerns or space operas are lame as hell. It's just the current version of classical mythologies and hero journeys.
space operas are also lame as hell


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Superhero movies were oversaturated by the time the first Avengers came out

Yeah, all of those 2 Marvel movies released per year is just too much.
even one per year is too much

superhero shit is lame as hell

That's like saying westerns or space operas are lame as hell. It's just the current version of classical mythologies and hero journeys.
space operas are also lame as hell

well yeah

and space operas are lame as hell


 
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Also, you're not taking into account the fact that not every superhero movie made in the past decade has been an MCU film.

2014 had four between Winter Soldier, X-Men: DoFP, Amazing Spider-Man 2, and Guardians of the Galaxy.
2015 had three between Avengers 2, Ant-Man, and Fantastic Flop.

2016, on the other hand, is going to have SIX, between Civil War, BvS, Shitpool, X-Men, Suicide Squad, and Dr. Strange.

That's pretty fucking crazy.


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Superhero movies were oversaturated by the time the first Avengers came out

Yeah, all of those 2 Marvel movies released per year is just too much.
even one per year is too much

superhero shit is lame as hell

That's like saying westerns or space operas are lame as hell. It's just the current version of classical mythologies and hero journeys.
space operas are also lame as hell

well yeah

and space operas are lame as hell


 
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Superhero movies were oversaturated by the time the first Avengers came out

Yeah, all of those 2 Marvel movies released per year is just too much.
even one per year is too much

superhero shit is lame as hell

That's like saying westerns or space operas are lame as hell. It's just the current version of classical mythologies and hero journeys.
space operas are also lame as hell

well yeah

and space operas are lame as hell
westerns are kinda suck, too

but i respect them as pillars of the artform


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His eyebrows sparkling, his white beard hangs down to his chest. The thatched mats, spread outside his chise, spread softly, his splendid attos. He polishes, cross-legged, his makiri, with his eyes completely absorbed.

He is Ainu.

The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
Also, you're not taking into account the fact that not every superhero movie made in the past decade has been an MCU film.

2014 had four between Winter Soldier, X-Men: DoFP, Amazing Spider-Man 2, and Guardians of the Galaxy.
2015 had three between Avengers 2, Ant-Man, and Fantastic Flop.

2016, on the other hand, is going to have SIX, between Civil War, BvS, Shitpool, X-Men, Suicide Squad, and Dr. Strange.

That's pretty fucking crazy.
Treat them like comics. Follow the ones you like forget that the others exist. You might miss a few in jokes, but everything crucial to Avengers #61 will be told within the film.


 
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Superhero movies were oversaturated by the time the first Avengers came out

Yeah, all of those 2 Marvel movies released per year is just too much.
even one per year is too much

superhero shit is lame as hell

That's like saying westerns or space operas are lame as hell. It's just the current version of classical mythologies and hero journeys.
space operas are also lame as hell

well yeah

and space operas are lame as hell

well, now you've just gone and confirmed that space operas are shit, gg


 
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Treat them like comics. Follow the ones you like forget that the others exist. You might miss a few in jokes, but everything crucial to Avengers #61 will be told within the film.
Yeah, that's what I do anyway. I'm just trying to illustrate how saturated the industry is becoming with them, and that Turkey's being just a little obtuse about it.


 
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We're starting to see a trend here....

Some of the most popular movies have a whole entire Universe surrounding them, Harry Potter, Hunger Games and LOLvergent, Bond, etc. And the MCU is one of the first to capitalize on this. Exploring every single side of the universe they are in was a smart move after Iron Man was successful. Building up the Avengers, now going into all the rest. Disney and Marvel are smart.

However, there is oversaturation yes. But that's mainly because there is nothing at that much popularity to compete against it. Imagine if J.K Rowling decided to go fuck it and work with an entire company like Disney and made more Harry Potter Stories? That would become just as popular as MCU.
Heck, Star Wars is starting to do that, with it's 3rd Trilogy and one of it's first side story movies(not counting the games or television). It is a smart move to take something that is popular and expand on it.(better make an Old Republic movie at least.)

Why has Disney been the ONLY one to catch onto this and ride with it? Honestly if more movies decided to expand their universe before the first Avengers we would see a lot less Superhero movies and more variety.

Okay, observation/rambling has ended.


 
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they're not the most interesting, i usually watch them on a second screen whilst i play a game or something, they're a good way to kill 2 hours or so if need be


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If the market is saturated, how come the value of the films continues to rise?

It's econ 101.

The capital value goes down when the market becomes saturated.

They're only just now beginning to tap into the value of this market, and people's tolerance for it.


 
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If the market is saturated, how come the value of the films continues to rise?

It's econ 101.

The capital value goes down when the market becomes saturated.

They're only just now beginning to tap into the value of this market, and people's tolerance for it.
Because we're not speaking in obsolete economic terms. Whether something is saturated in a bullshit capitalist sense doesn't matter, because that's not a rational standard of judgment.

The value of the films continues to rise because people feel obligated to see them all. It's not actual value.
They just have a vice-grip on your balls.