Do you know how much GOD loves you?

R o c k e t · October 28, 2014, 12:52:17 AM

Quote from: Erives on October 28, 2014, 12:47:43 AM

Not much because I was born into a jackass family.

Families in general have just..........become bad.
Even mine my friend. I dont' speak to half of it.

Jocephalopod · October 28, 2014, 12:57:17 AM

if god is a lie who didn't write the bible?

R o c k e t · October 28, 2014, 01:01:43 AM

Quote from: Jocephalopod on October 28, 2014, 12:57:17 AM

if god is a lie who didn't write the bible?

We ask the tough questions right?

Death · October 28, 2014, 01:04:25 AM

Quote from: Rocketman287 on October 28, 2014, 01:01:43 AM

Quote from: Jocephalopod on October 28, 2014, 12:57:17 AM
if god is a lie who didn't write the bible?

We ask the tough questions right?

Everyone that wasn't a prophet?

Nexus · October 28, 2014, 01:05:26 AM

I'm pretty aware of how little god loves me.

BaconShelf · October 28, 2014, 04:07:44 AM

With the scale of the universe, any god whose primary concern is humanity is unlikely to be an important one.

I paraphrased that, but it gets it across.

Erives · October 28, 2014, 04:08:49 AM

Quote from: Rocketman287 on October 28, 2014, 12:52:17 AM

Quote from: Erives on October 28, 2014, 12:47:43 AM
Not much because I was born into a jackass family.

Families in general have just..........become bad.
Even mine my friend. I dont' speak to half of it.

My condolences.
They alright but the decisions and idiocy they display are disheartening.

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Release · October 28, 2014, 04:28:25 AM

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aREALgod · October 28, 2014, 04:59:25 AM

Now think about how Satan loves you more

HAIL SATAN

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Girl of Mystery · October 28, 2014, 07:57:14 AM

Quote from: Mr Psychologist on October 27, 2014, 10:38:50 PM

I know how much shrek loves me, shrek loves us all.

Shrek is love, Shrek is life.

Sandtrap · October 28, 2014, 08:43:51 AM

Quote from: Rocketman287 on October 28, 2014, 12:39:11 AM

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And you know what? I can take that heat..

But you don't have to.
Why suffer when the avenue of escape is a free gift?

Because a real "god" wouldn't punish those who simply don't believe in him. He's got a pretty big inferiority complex. That would be like me taking offense from an ant on the ground walking across my shoe. The ant exists on a different level of perspective than me, and to it, he's not walking across a shoe belonging to something almost inconveivably massive compared to him. He's just walking, doing his business.

I wouldn't step on him for that. I wouldn't punish him for not realizing that he's walking on me. Which returns to my original point. God is a sack of old sacks.

Korra · October 28, 2014, 08:47:51 AM

There was once a universe...

True Turquoise · October 28, 2014, 09:02:52 AM

I kick him in the knees

More Than Mortal · October 28, 2014, 09:29:48 AM

So, what your essentially saying is that, by virtue of being totally incomprehensible, any conception of God's love we have is, by definition, false and not divinely generated?

So those who think God loves them are at best deluding themselves, and God's love relies entirely on blind faith in the idea.

I'm glad we agree.

More Than Mortal · October 28, 2014, 09:40:41 AM

Quote from: Rocketman287 on October 27, 2014, 11:36:47 PM

Not wanting to start a debate, but do you think it possible that because of humanity's free will

That's a heavily loaded premise.

R o c k e t · October 28, 2014, 09:44:52 AM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on October 28, 2014, 09:40:41 AM

Quote from: Rocketman287 on October 27, 2014, 11:36:47 PM
Not wanting to start a debate, but do you think it possible that because of humanity's free will
That's a heavily loaded premise.

And as you can see, we each responded twice to each other. That was it.

Discussion not debate.

BasedLove · October 28, 2014, 09:48:25 AM

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More Than Mortal · October 28, 2014, 09:52:05 AM

Quote from: Rocketman287 on October 28, 2014, 09:44:52 AM

And as you can see, we each responded twice to each other. That was it.

Discussion not debate.

So? What does that have to do with anything?

I'm saying the premise is loaded because, in all likelihood, we don't have free will.

R o c k e t · October 28, 2014, 09:53:59 AM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on October 28, 2014, 09:52:05 AM

Quote from: Rocketman287 on October 28, 2014, 09:44:52 AM
And as you can see, we each responded twice to each other. That was it.

Discussion not debate.
So? What does that have to do with anything?

I'm saying the premise is loaded because, in all likelihood, we don't have free will.

Oh that.

*shrugs*

Believe what you want. I'm not here to change you.

Dopameme · October 28, 2014, 10:23:32 AM

>1960+54
>still making these threads

will you faggots ever learn?

Bonewheel Barry · October 28, 2014, 10:58:06 AM

Not nearly as much as Shrek loves me.

Assassin 11D7 · October 28, 2014, 02:13:45 PM

Quote from: Flee on October 28, 2014, 04:25:31 AM

No, he doesn't. Not only is it rather obvious that he doesn't exist, but even if he did, I think it's hard to claim he loves all of us to the extent you're talking about. If your god would actually exist, he would be the single biggest asshole ever to have existed, solely responsible for the death, misery and suffering of billions of people and creatures. He is not worthy of any reverence, worship or even respect.

>Says God not existing is obvious
>Can't prove it
>In the Bible it's Mankind's fault for the world turning out how it is
>Says that clearly it's God's fault for creating the world in the first place

I'm currently depressed, hating my life, I've got a cup of Coke, some Pringles and Chips Ahoy. Let's do this, bitches.

Assassin 11D7 · October 28, 2014, 02:19:28 PM

Quote from: BaconShelf on October 28, 2014, 04:07:44 AM

With the scale of the universe, any god whose primary concern is humanity is unlikely to be an important one.

I paraphrased that, but it gets it across.

Since God's power is infinite, this isn't a problem for him.

Assassin 11D7 · October 28, 2014, 02:29:29 PM

Quote from: Sandtrap on October 28, 2014, 08:43:51 AM

Quote from: Rocketman287 on October 28, 2014, 12:39:11 AM

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And you know what? I can take that heat..

But you don't have to.
Why suffer when the avenue of escape is a free gift?

Because a real "god" wouldn't punish those who simply don't believe in him. He's got a pretty big inferiority complex. That would be like me taking offense from an ant on the ground walking across my shoe. The ant exists on a different level of perspective than me, and to it, he's not walking across a shoe belonging to something almost inconveivably massive compared to him. He's just walking, doing his business.

I wouldn't step on him for that. I wouldn't punish him for not realizing that he's walking on me. Which returns to my original point. God is a sack of old sacks.

Problem with the conception of "traditional hell" is that it makes no sense in any way you look at it, as it was pretty much taken from other mythologies.

Why would there be heat and fire in hell when those are God's creations? Wouldn't hell be separation from God? Why would he punish those he created and outright says, many times, that he loves them all, from the wicked to the good?

If a hell were to exist, then it would have to be completely void of God's creation, which means it would amount to being nothing. And thinking about it, you'd pretty much have to want to be there for that to happen.

Which leads into the "But they say you need to believe in Jesus Christ as the Lord and savior to gain entrance!". Yes, the Bible says that to enter the kingdom of heaven you must go through God to get there. Now, I don't know any Christian that doesn't think or say "God is all around us, in everything he made", so going by extension, believing in God's creation would equate to believing in God. Maybe people don't call God the same name, maybe to some it's "first cause" or "the Universe" or whatever.

Word Wizard · October 28, 2014, 02:30:10 PM

Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on October 28, 2014, 02:19:28 PM

Quote from: BaconShelf on October 28, 2014, 04:07:44 AM
With the scale of the universe, any god whose primary concern is humanity is unlikely to be an important one.

I paraphrased that, but it gets it across.
Since God's power is infinite, this isn't a problem for him.

If his power is infinite then why did he have to rest on the 7th day?

Checkmate theists.

Assassin 11D7 · October 28, 2014, 02:32:04 PM

Quote from: Nexus on October 28, 2014, 01:05:26 AM

I'm pretty aware of how little god loves me.

You confuse struggles and challenges to overcome with God not loving you. You don't face those because of a lack of love, but because the presence of love. You will grow and become stronger, or you will inspire others to do so or live another way, everything is connected.

R o c k e t · October 28, 2014, 02:33:02 PM

Quote from: Sly Instinct on October 28, 2014, 02:30:10 PM

Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on October 28, 2014, 02:19:28 PM
Quote from: BaconShelf on October 28, 2014, 04:07:44 AM
With the scale of the universe, any god whose primary concern is humanity is unlikely to be an important one.

I paraphrased that, but it gets it across.
Since God's power is infinite, this isn't a problem for him.

If his power is infinite then why did he have to rest on the 7th day?

Checkmate theists.

He didn't "have" to do anything. He made that 7th day a day of rest to set an example for us: the sabbath day.

Checkmate person im responding to.