Quote from: Ian on May 27, 2016, 12:21:07 PMQuote from: Tyger on May 27, 2016, 12:18:25 PMYou won't kill spiders but you want people to abort their unborn children? I would say his reasoning would be that spiders don't know any better? my reasoning is that spiders are already born, so you probably don't have an ethical right to harm them without a good reasonwhereas abortions, in my view, are basically giving unborn children a free ticket to eternal paradisekind of a big difference there
Quote from: Tyger on May 27, 2016, 12:18:25 PMYou won't kill spiders but you want people to abort their unborn children? I would say his reasoning would be that spiders don't know any better?
You won't kill spiders but you want people to abort their unborn children?
Quote from: Verbatim on May 27, 2016, 12:33:33 PMQuote from: Ian on May 27, 2016, 12:21:07 PMQuote from: Tyger on May 27, 2016, 12:18:25 PMYou won't kill spiders but you want people to abort their unborn children? I would say his reasoning would be that spiders don't know any better? my reasoning is that spiders are already born, so you probably don't have an ethical right to harm them without a good reasonwhereas abortions, in my view, are basically giving unborn children a free ticket to eternal paradisekind of a big difference thereSpiders are also brainless, primal predators that are essentially organic robots. They don't love or hate, they just hunt, hide, breed, and explore.
my reasoning is that spiders are already born, so you probably don't have an ethical right to harm them without a good reasonwhereas abortions, in my view, are basically giving unborn children a free ticket to eternal paradisekind of a big difference there
Quote from: Prime Kruphix on May 27, 2016, 12:36:47 PMQuote from: Verbatim on May 27, 2016, 12:33:33 PMQuote from: Ian on May 27, 2016, 12:21:07 PMQuote from: Tyger on May 27, 2016, 12:18:25 PMYou won't kill spiders but you want people to abort their unborn children? I would say his reasoning would be that spiders don't know any better? my reasoning is that spiders are already born, so you probably don't have an ethical right to harm them without a good reasonwhereas abortions, in my view, are basically giving unborn children a free ticket to eternal paradisekind of a big difference thereSpiders are also brainless, primal predators that are essentially organic robots. They don't love or hate, they just hunt, hide, breed, and explore.Yeah but they wanna eat the shit that bothers you in your house!
What about unborn spiders?
virtually nothing we can do about them at this point in timeeven if you destroyed their eggs, it's not like that's actually going to do anything
Quote from: Prime Kruphix on May 27, 2016, 12:36:47 PMQuote from: Verbatim on May 27, 2016, 12:33:33 PMQuote from: Ian on May 27, 2016, 12:21:07 PMQuote from: Tyger on May 27, 2016, 12:18:25 PMYou won't kill spiders but you want people to abort their unborn children? I would say his reasoning would be that spiders don't know any better? my reasoning is that spiders are already born, so you probably don't have an ethical right to harm them without a good reasonwhereas abortions, in my view, are basically giving unborn children a free ticket to eternal paradisekind of a big difference thereSpiders are also brainless, primal predators that are essentially organic robots. They don't love or hate, they just hunt, hide, breed, and explore.They literally do have brains tho
What do you mean? You can destroy the eggs, wouldn't that be like a spider abortion?
but you can't destroy all the eggs, and even if you could, that would be stupidas we've been discussing, spiders are VERY important to the environment
Quote from: Tyger on May 27, 2016, 12:40:29 PMQuote from: Prime Kruphix on May 27, 2016, 12:36:47 PMQuote from: Verbatim on May 27, 2016, 12:33:33 PMQuote from: Ian on May 27, 2016, 12:21:07 PMQuote from: Tyger on May 27, 2016, 12:18:25 PMYou won't kill spiders but you want people to abort their unborn children? I would say his reasoning would be that spiders don't know any better? my reasoning is that spiders are already born, so you probably don't have an ethical right to harm them without a good reasonwhereas abortions, in my view, are basically giving unborn children a free ticket to eternal paradisekind of a big difference thereSpiders are also brainless, primal predators that are essentially organic robots. They don't love or hate, they just hunt, hide, breed, and explore.They literally do have brains thoNot technically, no. They have supraoesophageal ganglia, which act as a kind of brain, but they have no capability for thought of any kind. It's just for directing movement and such.
https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/oexjq/will_house_spiders_die_if_put_outside/
Quote from: Prime Kruphix on May 27, 2016, 12:44:52 PMQuote from: Tyger on May 27, 2016, 12:40:29 PMQuote from: Prime Kruphix on May 27, 2016, 12:36:47 PMQuote from: Verbatim on May 27, 2016, 12:33:33 PMQuote from: Ian on May 27, 2016, 12:21:07 PMQuote from: Tyger on May 27, 2016, 12:18:25 PMYou won't kill spiders but you want people to abort their unborn children? I would say his reasoning would be that spiders don't know any better? my reasoning is that spiders are already born, so you probably don't have an ethical right to harm them without a good reasonwhereas abortions, in my view, are basically giving unborn children a free ticket to eternal paradisekind of a big difference thereSpiders are also brainless, primal predators that are essentially organic robots. They don't love or hate, they just hunt, hide, breed, and explore.They literally do have brains thoNot technically, no. They have supraoesophageal ganglia, which act as a kind of brain, but they have no capability for thought of any kind. It's just for directing movement and such. supraoesophageal ganglia is Latin for spider brain
I generally try to catch and release any bugs I find, unless they're too small or ants.
Is there any insect you don't feel important to the environment? I swear to God if you don't say cockroaches....Quote from: Verbatim on May 27, 2016, 12:45:15 PMbut you can't destroy all the eggs, and even if you could, that would be stupidas we've been discussing, spiders are VERY important to the environment
Is there any insect you don't feel important to the environment? I swear to God if you don't say cockroaches....
Edit: wait a minute, no. It's latin for "anthropod" brain, not spider. Dragonflies have them too iirc, as do crayfish.
Quote from: Tyger on May 27, 2016, 12:47:04 PMQuote from: Prime Kruphix on May 27, 2016, 12:44:52 PMQuote from: Tyger on May 27, 2016, 12:40:29 PMQuote from: Prime Kruphix on May 27, 2016, 12:36:47 PMQuote from: Verbatim on May 27, 2016, 12:33:33 PMQuote from: Ian on May 27, 2016, 12:21:07 PMQuote from: Tyger on May 27, 2016, 12:18:25 PMYou won't kill spiders but you want people to abort their unborn children? I would say his reasoning would be that spiders don't know any better? my reasoning is that spiders are already born, so you probably don't have an ethical right to harm them without a good reasonwhereas abortions, in my view, are basically giving unborn children a free ticket to eternal paradisekind of a big difference thereSpiders are also brainless, primal predators that are essentially organic robots. They don't love or hate, they just hunt, hide, breed, and explore.They literally do have brains thoNot technically, no. They have supraoesophageal ganglia, which act as a kind of brain, but they have no capability for thought of any kind. It's just for directing movement and such. supraoesophageal ganglia is Latin for spider brainYes, and a spider brain != a brain. It's a very informal brain; it let's them know when they're hungry, tired, and let's them move. You'd be more accurate to call it a complicated nervous system than a brainy animal.
Quote from: Prime Kruphix on May 27, 2016, 12:49:09 PMQuote from: Tyger on May 27, 2016, 12:47:04 PMQuote from: Prime Kruphix on May 27, 2016, 12:44:52 PMQuote from: Tyger on May 27, 2016, 12:40:29 PMQuote from: Prime Kruphix on May 27, 2016, 12:36:47 PMQuote from: Verbatim on May 27, 2016, 12:33:33 PMQuote from: Ian on May 27, 2016, 12:21:07 PMQuote from: Tyger on May 27, 2016, 12:18:25 PMYou won't kill spiders but you want people to abort their unborn children? I would say his reasoning would be that spiders don't know any better? my reasoning is that spiders are already born, so you probably don't have an ethical right to harm them without a good reasonwhereas abortions, in my view, are basically giving unborn children a free ticket to eternal paradisekind of a big difference thereSpiders are also brainless, primal predators that are essentially organic robots. They don't love or hate, they just hunt, hide, breed, and explore.They literally do have brains thoNot technically, no. They have supraoesophageal ganglia, which act as a kind of brain, but they have no capability for thought of any kind. It's just for directing movement and such. supraoesophageal ganglia is Latin for spider brainYes, and a spider brain != a brain. It's a very informal brain; it let's them know when they're hungry, tired, and let's them move. You'd be more accurate to call it a complicated nervous system than a brainy animal. but a brain is just a complicated nervous system (or rather part of one)Calling an animal with as complex a nervous system as spiders have brainless is dumb. Not having emotions doesn't make something brainless
Quote from: Ian on May 27, 2016, 12:46:38 PMIs there any insect you don't feel important to the environment? I swear to God if you don't say cockroaches....mosquitoes are easily the runner-up for biggest pest on the planet
the one true God is Doctor Doom and we should all be worshiping him.
Quote from: Prime Kruphix on May 27, 2016, 12:49:09 PMEdit: wait a minute, no. It's latin for "anthropod" brain, not spider. Dragonflies have them too iirc, as do crayfish.don't you call them CRAWDADS
Do you kill spiders or let them out
