Like I said in the other thread, I have nothing but respect for TGs who don't feed the delusion and get a gender change. If they're actually trying to help themselves, they're dealing with their condition correctly.
Quote from: Mad Max on January 19, 2015, 09:42:42 PMQuote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 09:41:14 PMThe more it affects you, the worse it is. Transgenderism's eventual result (if followed through completely) is the surgical changing of your sex. That's pretty affecting.Actually, it isn't, but you wouldn't know that.Many trans people opt to not have the surgery.There's a part in there you may have missed.
Quote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 09:41:14 PMThe more it affects you, the worse it is. Transgenderism's eventual result (if followed through completely) is the surgical changing of your sex. That's pretty affecting.Actually, it isn't, but you wouldn't know that.Many trans people opt to not have the surgery.
The more it affects you, the worse it is. Transgenderism's eventual result (if followed through completely) is the surgical changing of your sex. That's pretty affecting.
Quote from: CIS Scum on January 19, 2015, 09:45:02 PMirony. I love how half this site doesn't know how to use that word correctly.
irony.
Quote from: Mad Max on January 19, 2015, 09:42:42 PMQuote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 09:41:14 PMQuote from: Verbatim on January 19, 2015, 09:39:37 PMQuote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 09:37:34 PMQuote from: Verbatim on January 19, 2015, 09:35:54 PMIf SecondClass had to pick between being born transgendered or born with harlequin ichthyosis, which would he choose? Or would they both be equally horrible?What the fuck? Obviously transgender, I just wouldn't be an idiot and try to embrace my disease, I'd get it cured.Don't act all offended; it was more of a rhetorical question. Obviously you would rather be transgendered. Point being, how do you quantify how "bad" a defect is? I'm not even arguing with you, I'm just gathering information right now. I'd like to try to understand the perspective of what I consider to be... toxic bigotry.The more it affects you, the worse it is. Transgenderism's eventual result (if followed through completely) is the surgical changing of your sex. That's pretty affecting.Actually, it isn't, but you wouldn't know that.Many trans people opt to not have the surgery.Like I said in the other thread, I have nothing but respect for TGs who don't feed the delusion and get a gender change. If they're actually trying to help themselves, they're dealing with their condition correctly.
Quote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 09:41:14 PMQuote from: Verbatim on January 19, 2015, 09:39:37 PMQuote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 09:37:34 PMQuote from: Verbatim on January 19, 2015, 09:35:54 PMIf SecondClass had to pick between being born transgendered or born with harlequin ichthyosis, which would he choose? Or would they both be equally horrible?What the fuck? Obviously transgender, I just wouldn't be an idiot and try to embrace my disease, I'd get it cured.Don't act all offended; it was more of a rhetorical question. Obviously you would rather be transgendered. Point being, how do you quantify how "bad" a defect is? I'm not even arguing with you, I'm just gathering information right now. I'd like to try to understand the perspective of what I consider to be... toxic bigotry.The more it affects you, the worse it is. Transgenderism's eventual result (if followed through completely) is the surgical changing of your sex. That's pretty affecting.Actually, it isn't, but you wouldn't know that.Many trans people opt to not have the surgery.
Quote from: Verbatim on January 19, 2015, 09:39:37 PMQuote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 09:37:34 PMQuote from: Verbatim on January 19, 2015, 09:35:54 PMIf SecondClass had to pick between being born transgendered or born with harlequin ichthyosis, which would he choose? Or would they both be equally horrible?What the fuck? Obviously transgender, I just wouldn't be an idiot and try to embrace my disease, I'd get it cured.Don't act all offended; it was more of a rhetorical question. Obviously you would rather be transgendered. Point being, how do you quantify how "bad" a defect is? I'm not even arguing with you, I'm just gathering information right now. I'd like to try to understand the perspective of what I consider to be... toxic bigotry.The more it affects you, the worse it is. Transgenderism's eventual result (if followed through completely) is the surgical changing of your sex. That's pretty affecting.
Quote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 09:37:34 PMQuote from: Verbatim on January 19, 2015, 09:35:54 PMIf SecondClass had to pick between being born transgendered or born with harlequin ichthyosis, which would he choose? Or would they both be equally horrible?What the fuck? Obviously transgender, I just wouldn't be an idiot and try to embrace my disease, I'd get it cured.Don't act all offended; it was more of a rhetorical question. Obviously you would rather be transgendered. Point being, how do you quantify how "bad" a defect is? I'm not even arguing with you, I'm just gathering information right now. I'd like to try to understand the perspective of what I consider to be... toxic bigotry.
Quote from: Verbatim on January 19, 2015, 09:35:54 PMIf SecondClass had to pick between being born transgendered or born with harlequin ichthyosis, which would he choose? Or would they both be equally horrible?What the fuck? Obviously transgender, I just wouldn't be an idiot and try to embrace my disease, I'd get it cured.
If SecondClass had to pick between being born transgendered or born with harlequin ichthyosis, which would he choose? Or would they both be equally horrible?
Quote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 09:44:51 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 19, 2015, 09:42:42 PMQuote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 09:41:14 PMQuote from: Verbatim on January 19, 2015, 09:39:37 PMQuote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 09:37:34 PMQuote from: Verbatim on January 19, 2015, 09:35:54 PMIf SecondClass had to pick between being born transgendered or born with harlequin ichthyosis, which would he choose? Or would they both be equally horrible?What the fuck? Obviously transgender, I just wouldn't be an idiot and try to embrace my disease, I'd get it cured.Don't act all offended; it was more of a rhetorical question. Obviously you would rather be transgendered. Point being, how do you quantify how "bad" a defect is? I'm not even arguing with you, I'm just gathering information right now. I'd like to try to understand the perspective of what I consider to be... toxic bigotry.The more it affects you, the worse it is. Transgenderism's eventual result (if followed through completely) is the surgical changing of your sex. That's pretty affecting.Actually, it isn't, but you wouldn't know that.Many trans people opt to not have the surgery.Like I said in the other thread, I have nothing but respect for TGs who don't feed the delusion and get a gender change. If they're actually trying to help themselves, they're dealing with their condition correctly.Don't lie. You literally have no respect for any trans people considering how you've been posting about them.
I love how you constantly talk about issues you're completely clueless about.
Quote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 09:44:51 PMLike I said in the other thread, I have nothing but respect for TGs who don't feed the delusion and get a gender change. If they're actually trying to help themselves, they're dealing with their condition correctly.What if they ignore it entirely? They're not getting surgery or trying to "heal" it.
Quote from: Mad Max on January 19, 2015, 09:45:45 PMQuote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 09:44:51 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 19, 2015, 09:42:42 PMQuote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 09:41:14 PMQuote from: Verbatim on January 19, 2015, 09:39:37 PMQuote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 09:37:34 PMQuote from: Verbatim on January 19, 2015, 09:35:54 PMIf SecondClass had to pick between being born transgendered or born with harlequin ichthyosis, which would he choose? Or would they both be equally horrible?What the fuck? Obviously transgender, I just wouldn't be an idiot and try to embrace my disease, I'd get it cured.Don't act all offended; it was more of a rhetorical question. Obviously you would rather be transgendered. Point being, how do you quantify how "bad" a defect is? I'm not even arguing with you, I'm just gathering information right now. I'd like to try to understand the perspective of what I consider to be... toxic bigotry.The more it affects you, the worse it is. Transgenderism's eventual result (if followed through completely) is the surgical changing of your sex. That's pretty affecting.Actually, it isn't, but you wouldn't know that.Many trans people opt to not have the surgery.Like I said in the other thread, I have nothing but respect for TGs who don't feed the delusion and get a gender change. If they're actually trying to help themselves, they're dealing with their condition correctly.Don't lie. You literally have no respect for any trans people considering how you've been posting about them.I'm not lying. You're born the way you're born. Whether you're black, gay, autistic, or transgender, you can't help what cards you're dealt. What you can do is work to better yourself. And submitting to your mental disorder isn't bettering yourself, it's making the situation worse. If you're unlucky enough to be born as a TG, I have nothing but sympathy for you until you decide to be an idiot and worsen your condition.
Quote from: Prime Meridia on January 19, 2015, 09:44:12 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 19, 2015, 09:42:42 PMQuote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 09:41:14 PMThe more it affects you, the worse it is. Transgenderism's eventual result (if followed through completely) is the surgical changing of your sex. That's pretty affecting.Actually, it isn't, but you wouldn't know that.Many trans people opt to not have the surgery.There's a part in there you may have missed.And my point was that not everyone needs surgery to have "completed" transitioning [whatever that may mean]Plenty of people just do the HRT and call it a day, no surgery whatsoever.There isn't a single course of action that prescribes what trans people must go through.
Quote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 09:48:42 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 19, 2015, 09:45:45 PMQuote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 09:44:51 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 19, 2015, 09:42:42 PMQuote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 09:41:14 PMQuote from: Verbatim on January 19, 2015, 09:39:37 PMQuote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 09:37:34 PMQuote from: Verbatim on January 19, 2015, 09:35:54 PMIf SecondClass had to pick between being born transgendered or born with harlequin ichthyosis, which would he choose? Or would they both be equally horrible?What the fuck? Obviously transgender, I just wouldn't be an idiot and try to embrace my disease, I'd get it cured.Don't act all offended; it was more of a rhetorical question. Obviously you would rather be transgendered. Point being, how do you quantify how "bad" a defect is? I'm not even arguing with you, I'm just gathering information right now. I'd like to try to understand the perspective of what I consider to be... toxic bigotry.The more it affects you, the worse it is. Transgenderism's eventual result (if followed through completely) is the surgical changing of your sex. That's pretty affecting.Actually, it isn't, but you wouldn't know that.Many trans people opt to not have the surgery.Like I said in the other thread, I have nothing but respect for TGs who don't feed the delusion and get a gender change. If they're actually trying to help themselves, they're dealing with their condition correctly.Don't lie. You literally have no respect for any trans people considering how you've been posting about them.I'm not lying. You're born the way you're born. Whether you're black, gay, autistic, or transgender, you can't help what cards you're dealt. What you can do is work to better yourself. And submitting to your mental disorder isn't bettering yourself, it's making the situation worse. If you're unlucky enough to be born as a TG, I have nothing but sympathy for you until you decide to be an idiot and worsen your condition.Nobody wants your sympathy trust me.
Quote from: CIS Scum on January 19, 2015, 09:50:58 PMQuote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 09:48:42 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 19, 2015, 09:45:45 PMQuote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 09:44:51 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 19, 2015, 09:42:42 PMQuote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 09:41:14 PMQuote from: Verbatim on January 19, 2015, 09:39:37 PMQuote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 09:37:34 PMQuote from: Verbatim on January 19, 2015, 09:35:54 PMIf SecondClass had to pick between being born transgendered or born with harlequin ichthyosis, which would he choose? Or would they both be equally horrible?What the fuck? Obviously transgender, I just wouldn't be an idiot and try to embrace my disease, I'd get it cured.Don't act all offended; it was more of a rhetorical question. Obviously you would rather be transgendered. Point being, how do you quantify how "bad" a defect is? I'm not even arguing with you, I'm just gathering information right now. I'd like to try to understand the perspective of what I consider to be... toxic bigotry.The more it affects you, the worse it is. Transgenderism's eventual result (if followed through completely) is the surgical changing of your sex. That's pretty affecting.Actually, it isn't, but you wouldn't know that.Many trans people opt to not have the surgery.Like I said in the other thread, I have nothing but respect for TGs who don't feed the delusion and get a gender change. If they're actually trying to help themselves, they're dealing with their condition correctly.Don't lie. You literally have no respect for any trans people considering how you've been posting about them.I'm not lying. You're born the way you're born. Whether you're black, gay, autistic, or transgender, you can't help what cards you're dealt. What you can do is work to better yourself. And submitting to your mental disorder isn't bettering yourself, it's making the situation worse. If you're unlucky enough to be born as a TG, I have nothing but sympathy for you until you decide to be an idiot and worsen your condition.Nobody wants your sympathy trust me.Why are you in Serious? Are you here to have a discussion or make fun of me?
Quote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 09:43:50 PMI don't want diseased people to be able to walk around, untreated, living their life as a delusion. The second, more vain reason, is that TGs are just repulsive. I should be able to walk up to the store without feeling the need to lose my lunch every time I see a tranny.Ladies and gentlemen, the definition of transphobia.
I don't want diseased people to be able to walk around, untreated, living their life as a delusion. The second, more vain reason, is that TGs are just repulsive. I should be able to walk up to the store without feeling the need to lose my lunch every time I see a tranny.
Your argument could have benefited without that addition, it really doesn't help put your stance in a positive or non-bigoted light of the subject.
ITT: DAS wins so hard that everyone ignores him. I feel like Rocketman.
Quote from: Prime Meridia on January 19, 2015, 09:57:58 PMYour argument could have benefited without that addition, it really doesn't help put your stance in a positive or non-bigoted light of the subject.It's important to note, as it does actually affect others.
Quote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 09:59:42 PMQuote from: Prime Meridia on January 19, 2015, 09:57:58 PMYour argument could have benefited without that addition, it really doesn't help put your stance in a positive or non-bigoted light of the subject.It's important to note, as it does actually affect others.As do homsexuals showing gestures of affection in public places. That's called homophobia. Are you admitting to being transphobic, or was that unintentional?
Two men kissing isn't inherently disgusting.
Quote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 10:03:56 PMTwo men kissing isn't inherently disgusting. To you.
Quote from: Prime Meridia on January 19, 2015, 10:01:52 PMQuote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 09:59:42 PMQuote from: Prime Meridia on January 19, 2015, 09:57:58 PMYour argument could have benefited without that addition, it really doesn't help put your stance in a positive or non-bigoted light of the subject.It's important to note, as it does actually affect others.As do homsexuals showing gestures of affection in public places. That's called homophobia. Are you admitting to being transphobic, or was that unintentional?Two men kissing isn't inherently disgusting. Grown men pretending to be girls is, and also pretty creepy.
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