Quote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 08:57:33 PMI've explained to you literally four times exactly why that is, but I guess you just can't grasp it. Not my fault.I'm apparently autistic for not wanting to be either gender, so, I guess that means I literally can't grasp it. Explain it to me like I actually am younger than you, then.
I've explained to you literally four times exactly why that is, but I guess you just can't grasp it. Not my fault.
Quote from: Icy on January 19, 2015, 09:00:36 PMQuote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on January 19, 2015, 08:58:30 PMQuote from: Icy on January 19, 2015, 08:56:29 PMThis thread is an A+ shitfest.I dropped a match and it turned into a forest fire...You deserve a medal.What flavor?
Quote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on January 19, 2015, 08:58:30 PMQuote from: Icy on January 19, 2015, 08:56:29 PMThis thread is an A+ shitfest.I dropped a match and it turned into a forest fire...You deserve a medal.
Quote from: Icy on January 19, 2015, 08:56:29 PMThis thread is an A+ shitfest.I dropped a match and it turned into a forest fire...
This thread is an A+ shitfest.
Quote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 08:59:52 PMMental ward =/= brainwashing campYou're literally doing the same thing, though.
Mental ward =/= brainwashing camp
Homosexuality isn't a birth defect,
Okay, I'll try.Some people are born with mental disorders.A subset of mental disorders is delusional disorders.It's unethical to stand idly by and allow someone affected by a mental disorder to live out their delusions. You should do something to help.While TGs undoubtedly have every right to change their gender, that doesn't make it an intelligent or good choice.
Quote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on January 19, 2015, 08:48:01 PMQuote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 08:45:54 PMQuote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on January 19, 2015, 08:33:17 PMQuote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 08:29:31 PMIt's just immoral.I'm not going to get into a debate with you but you have a strange definition of morality.I'd consider it pretty immoral to let a sufferer of a disease believe that he's healthy instead of actually trying to help him.Alright alright fine.What exactly is unhealthy about it if they're normal functioning people that blend in to normal society and are happy?
Quote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 08:45:54 PMQuote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on January 19, 2015, 08:33:17 PMQuote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 08:29:31 PMIt's just immoral.I'm not going to get into a debate with you but you have a strange definition of morality.I'd consider it pretty immoral to let a sufferer of a disease believe that he's healthy instead of actually trying to help him.Alright alright fine.What exactly is unhealthy about it if they're normal functioning people that blend in to normal society and are happy?
Quote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on January 19, 2015, 08:33:17 PMQuote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 08:29:31 PMIt's just immoral.I'm not going to get into a debate with you but you have a strange definition of morality.I'd consider it pretty immoral to let a sufferer of a disease believe that he's healthy instead of actually trying to help him.
Quote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 08:29:31 PMIt's just immoral.I'm not going to get into a debate with you but you have a strange definition of morality.
It's just immoral.
Quote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 09:02:42 PMOkay, I'll try.Some people are born with mental disorders.A subset of mental disorders is delusional disorders.It's unethical to stand idly by and allow someone affected by a mental disorder to live out their delusions. You should do something to help.While TGs undoubtedly have every right to change their gender, that doesn't make it an intelligent or good choice.You could make the same argument for homosexuality. You sound like a Christian fundy right now.
Homosexuality isn't a birth defect, transgenderism is.
Quote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on January 19, 2015, 09:04:05 PMQuote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on January 19, 2015, 08:48:01 PMQuote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 08:45:54 PMQuote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on January 19, 2015, 08:33:17 PMQuote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 08:29:31 PMIt's just immoral.I'm not going to get into a debate with you but you have a strange definition of morality.I'd consider it pretty immoral to let a sufferer of a disease believe that he's healthy instead of actually trying to help him.Alright alright fine.What exactly is unhealthy about it if they're normal functioning people that blend in to normal society and are happy?They're living a lie. They're pretending to be something they're not. If someone truly believed that they were King Richard III, would you encourage him to live out that life? Or would you recommend him a therapist? Probably the latter.
Quote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 09:03:48 PMHomosexuality isn't a birth defect, transgenderism is.Sagacious knowledge from the eighteen-year-old pothead layman.Oh, sorry, that's ad hominem. How rude of me.I would love to see your evidence for that highly quantifiable and demonstrable statement.
oh god yes.
Anyone who would ever have sex with a tranny is a freak.
Use logic. All homosexuality does is make you attracted to the other sex. Big deal. Transgenderism makes you believe that you're something you're objectively not. That's a mental disorder, caused by a birth defect.
All transgenderism does is make you think you're the opposite gender. Big deal. Homosexuality makes you think that you're sexually attracted to something that you objectively shouldn't be. That's a mental disorder, caused by a birth defect.
It is.
Quote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 09:05:51 PMQuote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on January 19, 2015, 09:04:05 PMQuote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on January 19, 2015, 08:48:01 PMQuote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 08:45:54 PMQuote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on January 19, 2015, 08:33:17 PMQuote from: SecondClass on January 19, 2015, 08:29:31 PMIt's just immoral.I'm not going to get into a debate with you but you have a strange definition of morality.I'd consider it pretty immoral to let a sufferer of a disease believe that he's healthy instead of actually trying to help him.Alright alright fine.What exactly is unhealthy about it if they're normal functioning people that blend in to normal society and are happy?They're living a lie. They're pretending to be something they're not. If someone truly believed that they were King Richard III, would you encourage him to live out that life? Or would you recommend him a therapist? Probably the latter.But there's a difference between thinking you're an already existing person and living as the opposite sex, isn't there? Seems like a silly comparison, especially considering how in utero we all had a 50/50 chance of ending up either male to female. Or...on the off chance, something different.i.e. XXX, X, XXY, XYY, etcBecause you know, they exist.Not only that, but it's medically proven that in rare cases there is the possibility of mind and body from a gender standpoint being out of alignment because they form separately and on rare occasions during fetal development receive different amounts of sex hormones.It's rare but it's a natural occurrence. Call it a defect or whatever, but these people aren't diseased or delusional.
Woah woah woah. Hold on.Did this thread get moved to serious? With my post as the topic?
Pro tip: do not discuss trans* issues on the internet unless you're someplace that wont shit all over you. Sep7agon, Bungie, and the like are no such places.
Quote from: Prime Meridia on January 19, 2015, 09:18:22 PMWoah woah woah. Hold on.Did this thread get moved to serious? With my post as the topic?you are the mediator, after all
Quote from: Mad Max on January 19, 2015, 09:16:58 PMPro tip: do not discuss trans* issues on the internet unless you're someplace that wont shit all over you. Sep7agon, Bungie, and the like are no such places.Any place where transgenderism is seen as a social movement is a place that shouldn't exist.
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