Quote from: Verbatim on December 24, 2014, 02:10:34 PMMeta, how open are you to the idea of allowing more threads in Serious? Sometimes I find your judgment questionable (like... not allowing Mad Max's thread about his significant other's passing in there).We should just not allow Mad Max to make any threads... anywhere... forever..
Meta, how open are you to the idea of allowing more threads in Serious? Sometimes I find your judgment questionable (like... not allowing Mad Max's thread about his significant other's passing in there).
Quote from: Meta Cognition on December 24, 2014, 02:34:03 PMAt least 13 of the threads currently on the front page of Serious would be moved under our model.Could you name a few? I'm honestly seeing nothing but political discussion. I guess my definition is just inherently broader.
At least 13 of the threads currently on the front page of Serious would be moved under our model.
Quote from: Fagcicle on December 24, 2014, 02:16:37 PMThe site staff will (likely) be holding a poll to gauge which style of moderation the website would like to see -Strict, Lax, or a Hybrid (More on the three options will be in the poll thread). This will help determine new moderation systems and punishment outlines.I'll link to the poll once it's been finished and posted.Fucking gays and their hybrids.
The site staff will (likely) be holding a poll to gauge which style of moderation the website would like to see -Strict, Lax, or a Hybrid (More on the three options will be in the poll thread). This will help determine new moderation systems and punishment outlines.I'll link to the poll once it's been finished and posted.
Quote from: Verbatim on December 24, 2014, 02:35:27 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on December 24, 2014, 02:34:03 PMAt least 13 of the threads currently on the front page of Serious would be moved under our model.Could you name a few? I'm honestly seeing nothing but political discussion. I guess my definition is just inherently broader."Russian fishermen catch squeaking alien and eat it"What qualities constitute "good" music? Any writing you're working on? Every fast food restaurant should be following this modelSony to possibly release The Interview on Crackle, for freeNorth Korea's internet is down entirelyWhat's the difference between belief and a lack of belief?
Regarding communication between the mods and members, I had a recent suggestion that basically included a response window with each report. Every mod dealing with a report would then provide a quick and anonymous response on what they did and why. Does anyone feel like this would be a good idea?
Quote from: Meta Cognition on December 24, 2014, 02:38:06 PMQuote from: Verbatim on December 24, 2014, 02:35:27 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on December 24, 2014, 02:34:03 PMAt least 13 of the threads currently on the front page of Serious would be moved under our model.Could you name a few? I'm honestly seeing nothing but political discussion. I guess my definition is just inherently broader."Russian fishermen catch squeaking alien and eat it"What qualities constitute "good" music? Any writing you're working on? Every fast food restaurant should be following this modelSony to possibly release The Interview on Crackle, for freeNorth Korea's internet is down entirelyWhat's the difference between belief and a lack of belief?All right, all right. Those ones don't fit under what I'd consider politics/religion. Everything else you mentioned, I think could be chalked up pretty easily. And as for that last one, I mean, you made it, so I'm inclined not to count it.
Quote from: Flee on December 24, 2014, 02:43:13 PMRegarding communication between the mods and members, I had a recent suggestion that basically included a response window with each report. Every mod dealing with a report would then provide a quick and anonymous response on what they did and why. Does anyone feel like this would be a good idea?The anon part has merit.But why not just PM the user?This is about communication, why not use the tools that are already there and for that particular use?
So it would say "Report received, looking into""Warning given"Etc.
Quote from: Sento on December 24, 2014, 02:45:25 PMQuote from: Flee on December 24, 2014, 02:43:13 PMRegarding communication between the mods and members, I had a recent suggestion that basically included a response window with each report. Every mod dealing with a report would then provide a quick and anonymous response on what they did and why. Does anyone feel like this would be a good idea?The anon part has merit.But why not just PM the user?This is about communication, why not use the tools that are already there and for that particular use?Because Flee's system would link right to the report - there is already a comment system on reports for moderator's to use to add comments - those comments would be sent to the reporter as Anonymous PM's.So it would say "Report received, looking into""Warning given"Etc.
Quote from: Flee on December 24, 2014, 02:43:13 PMRegarding communication between the mods and members, I had a recent suggestion that basically included a response window with each report. Every mod dealing with a report would then provide a quick and anonymous response on what they did and why. Does anyone feel like this would be a good idea?Doesn't feel personal enough. I think - as long as we have the monitors - they should serve the role as communicators. You could modify such a system, and make it so moderators choose the response to be made and then the monitors "pick up" the various responses and personally deliver them to whichever user on behalf of the moderator.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on December 24, 2014, 02:47:00 PMQuote from: Flee on December 24, 2014, 02:43:13 PMRegarding communication between the mods and members, I had a recent suggestion that basically included a response window with each report. Every mod dealing with a report would then provide a quick and anonymous response on what they did and why. Does anyone feel like this would be a good idea?Doesn't feel personal enough. I think - as long as we have the monitors - they should serve the role as communicators. You could modify such a system, and make it so moderators choose the response to be made and then the monitors "pick up" the various responses and personally deliver them to whichever user on behalf of the moderator.Problem is, Monitor's don't have access to the report system to see what is reported - nor can they see the actions being done by Moderators. It became a process to get information from a Ninja who isn't on Skype (Where we do most of our discussing as it's quicker), for the Monitor to then send a PM.
Quote from: Fagcicle on December 24, 2014, 02:49:32 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on December 24, 2014, 02:47:00 PMQuote from: Flee on December 24, 2014, 02:43:13 PMRegarding communication between the mods and members, I had a recent suggestion that basically included a response window with each report. Every mod dealing with a report would then provide a quick and anonymous response on what they did and why. Does anyone feel like this would be a good idea?Doesn't feel personal enough. I think - as long as we have the monitors - they should serve the role as communicators. You could modify such a system, and make it so moderators choose the response to be made and then the monitors "pick up" the various responses and personally deliver them to whichever user on behalf of the moderator.Problem is, Monitor's don't have access to the report system to see what is reported - nor can they see the actions being done by Moderators. It became a process to get information from a Ninja who isn't on Skype (Where we do most of our discussing as it's quicker), for the Monitor to then send a PM.Would it not be possible to create an auxiliary system alongside the report list, a sort of "response list" which doesn't necessarily need direct 1-to-1 communications between monitors and moderators?
let someone willing to take hits do the job right.
But that would just be a pretty pointless extra work. I'm not opposed to giving monitors more abilities and a better defined role, but it seems like a hassle and a delay to communicate what I do to the monitors so that they can further deliver the message to the members. Why not just let me write a quick comment that gives the person reporting a post immediate feedback.
Quote from: Flee on December 24, 2014, 02:52:35 PMBut that would just be a pretty pointless extra work. I'm not opposed to giving monitors more abilities and a better defined role, but it seems like a hassle and a delay to communicate what I do to the monitors so that they can further deliver the message to the members. Why not just let me write a quick comment that gives the person reporting a post immediate feedback.That's my concern too. I'm just concerned about the role of the monitors, to be honest. Whether or not they or the mods deliver the messages is relatively unimportant, but as long as we have the monitors lying around they may as well be able to do things.
Quote from: Fagcicle on December 24, 2014, 02:04:43 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on December 24, 2014, 02:03:37 PMQuote from: Fagcicle on December 24, 2014, 02:02:30 PMBut whatever we do do - there won't be happiness. If we become more strict, we are becoming Waypoint. If we become more lax, we apparently don't care about the forums.You're putting words in my mouth. At no point did I say there needs to be a change in the strictness or the laxness of the punishments, themselves.Not you exclusively Meta. We already have your suggestions.I know you do. Although that actually highlights the underlying point I'm making here; it's about a communicative deficiency. I PM'd those suggestions to Isara and Mr P. and have heard nothing since this thread - no acknowledgement that they were being discussed or if anything was going to move forward. On some level is promoted a feeling of "why bother", but the more pressing issue was the fact that it gives the impression of an inefficient system into which ideas and suggestions are placed and nothing is done. The fact that you're discussing them is good, of course, whether you like them or not but it isn't enough to fix the deficit in transparency and understanding between the moderation team and the community. I've made my point by now, though, so I'll just leave it here unless you have any questions. I do have confidence that the moderation team is working in the right direction, it's just difficult to tell how effective such efforts are at the moment.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on December 24, 2014, 02:03:37 PMQuote from: Fagcicle on December 24, 2014, 02:02:30 PMBut whatever we do do - there won't be happiness. If we become more strict, we are becoming Waypoint. If we become more lax, we apparently don't care about the forums.You're putting words in my mouth. At no point did I say there needs to be a change in the strictness or the laxness of the punishments, themselves.Not you exclusively Meta. We already have your suggestions.
Quote from: Fagcicle on December 24, 2014, 02:02:30 PMBut whatever we do do - there won't be happiness. If we become more strict, we are becoming Waypoint. If we become more lax, we apparently don't care about the forums.You're putting words in my mouth. At no point did I say there needs to be a change in the strictness or the laxness of the punishments, themselves.
But whatever we do do - there won't be happiness. If we become more strict, we are becoming Waypoint. If we become more lax, we apparently don't care about the forums.
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