But whatever we do do - there won't be happiness. If we become more strict, we are becoming Waypoint. If we become more lax, we apparently don't care about the forums.
Shit posting ain't gonna die, my nigga.
Quote from: Fagcicle on December 24, 2014, 02:02:30 PMBut whatever we do do - there won't be happiness. If we become more strict, we are becoming Waypoint. If we become more lax, we apparently don't care about the forums.You're putting words in my mouth. At no point did I say there needs to be a change in the strictness or the laxness of the punishments, themselves.
Quote from: Nexus the Star Lord Guy on December 24, 2014, 02:03:07 PMShit posting ain't gonna die, my nigga.It doesn't have to die, it just has to be shot in the foot.
Anyone notice how Icy is like the shittiest mod?
The community is like way down on your list of priorities, obviously.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on December 24, 2014, 02:03:37 PMQuote from: Fagcicle on December 24, 2014, 02:02:30 PMBut whatever we do do - there won't be happiness. If we become more strict, we are becoming Waypoint. If we become more lax, we apparently don't care about the forums.You're putting words in my mouth. At no point did I say there needs to be a change in the strictness or the laxness of the punishments, themselves.Not you exclusively Meta. We already have your suggestions.
Meta, how open are you to the idea of allowing more threads in Serious? Sometimes I find your judgment questionable (like... not allowing Mad Max's thread about his significant other's passing in there).
Quote from: Nexus the Star Lord Guy on December 24, 2014, 02:12:23 PMQuote from: Verbatim on December 24, 2014, 02:10:34 PMMeta, how open are you to the idea of allowing more threads in Serious? Sometimes I find your judgment questionable (like... not allowing Mad Max's thread about his significant other's passing in there).We should just not allow Mad Max to make any threads... anywhere... forever..That's mature.
Quote from: Verbatim on December 24, 2014, 02:10:34 PMMeta, how open are you to the idea of allowing more threads in Serious? Sometimes I find your judgment questionable (like... not allowing Mad Max's thread about his significant other's passing in there).We should just not allow Mad Max to make any threads... anywhere... forever..
That, really, should be the remit of Serious: politics and religion. The fact that we don't have a clearly defined boundary between the two fora leads to the Flood being sapped of things which could promote decent discussion, because somebody thought it fight the ambiguous criteria for Serious.
The site staff will (likely) be holding a poll to gauge which style of moderation the website would like to see -Strict, Lax, or a Hybrid (More on the three options will be in the poll thread). This will help determine new moderation systems and punishment outlines.I'll link to the poll once it's been finished and posted.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on December 24, 2014, 02:13:04 PMThat, really, should be the remit of Serious: politics and religion. The fact that we don't have a clearly defined boundary between the two fora leads to the Flood being sapped of things which could promote decent discussion, because somebody thought it fight the ambiguous criteria for Serious.Right. Because a thread like that, and threads like many others that I've thought of, wouldn't belong in Serious under the current remit, but you'd have to be snorting coke from your own asshole to think the Flood is any safe place for it to be. So the only other option is to not post the thread at all.Which really kinda sucks, and it's not... "fair", at the risk of sounding a little jejune.
Quote from: Verbatim on December 24, 2014, 02:17:32 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on December 24, 2014, 02:13:04 PMThat, really, should be the remit of Serious: politics and religion. The fact that we don't have a clearly defined boundary between the two fora leads to the Flood being sapped of things which could promote decent discussion, because somebody thought it fight the ambiguous criteria for Serious.Right. Because a thread like that, and threads like many others that I've thought of, wouldn't belong in Serious under the current remit, but you'd have to be snorting coke from your own asshole to think the Flood is any safe place for it to be. So the only other option is to not post the thread at all.Which really kinda sucks, and it's not... "fair", at the risk of sounding a little jejune.Which is exactly the problem. Aspects of the moderation and the ambiguous nature of the Serious board has led to the Flood becoming even more of a cesspool. While this thread, however, is proof that people can discuss things if it interests them in the Flood - it's quite clearly not enough. If I had to choose a direction for the moderation to go, it'd be stricter. At least initially, while the relationship between the Flood and Serious is sorted out.
So if you're suggesting moving everything but the religious and political discussions into the flood, I'm all for it. It would certainly raise the quality of the threads here, but I worry about how popular Serious would become when it only contains those two subjects...
Would it be possible to display both feeds on a single webpage?
Quote from: Cheat on December 24, 2014, 02:25:53 PMSo if you're suggesting moving everything but the religious and political discussions into the flood, I'm all for it. It would certainly raise the quality of the threads here, but I worry about how popular Serious would become when it only contains those two subjects...That's my concern too. Would it be possible to display both feeds on a single webpage?
"Moving" everything but the religious/political discussions to Shitpost Central will not change anything. Serious is already very slow on activity as it is, and everything that's not a religious/political discussion tends to get moved already. I'm not sure what you guys are talking about.
At least 13 of the threads currently on the front page of Serious would be moved under our model.
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