"Persians were a civilized people."

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The key to a long and successful rule is fear, and this accomplishes just that. I don't see how this indicates barbarism.

 
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They might've been comparitively civilised for the age at the time when compared to everybody else.

But really, it's like that with all cultures. They exceeded in some areas, and fell short in others.

A lot like politicians, really.

 
 
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Quote from: challengerX on March 29, 2016, 04:14:19 PM
Because every other "civilized" group of people aren't guilty of horrific forms of torture.
Germany did nothing of the sort.

 
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Quote from: challengerX on March 29, 2016, 04:18:21 PM
Also, it seems more like Ancient Greek propaganda against the Persian Empire than reality.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the only sources of that shit were Greek in origin.

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still better than the fucking Spartans (Spartans are still badass though)

 
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Quote from: Sandtrap on March 29, 2016, 02:40:45 PM
They might've been comparitively civilised for the age at the time when compared to everybody else.

But really, it's like that with all cultures. They exceeded in some areas, and fell short in others.

A lot like politicians, really.
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Quote from: Saint Endo on March 29, 2016, 05:26:28 PM
still better than the fucking Spartans (Spartans are still badass though)
And overrated

 
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Quote from: Yulius Kaisar on March 29, 2016, 05:54:33 PM
Quote from: Luciana on March 29, 2016, 05:49:22 PM
Quote from: Saint Endo on March 29, 2016, 05:26:28 PM
still better than the fucking Spartans (Spartans are still badass though)
And overrated
It amazes me to this day how American pop culture basically worships a bunch of protofascist slave holders.

Literally all of Spartan society was structured around slavery. The spartans had to train to be ready to keep the slaves in line because the slaves always had to do all the work because the spartans had to train to be ready to keep the slaves in line because the slaves always had to do all of the work because the spartans... and so on.

The irony here is that our modern day setup is based around a similar concept, albiet executed with more finesse, as the slaves have lots of padding and fun stuff to keep them working and relatively happy but still doing all the work.

Obviously there's a little more wiggle room than "You don't feel like working, okay, we'll just kill you." Now it's just, "Don't feel like working? Go homeless and lose access to all the pretty shit."

Maybe that's why american pop culture worships slave holders.

Huh, go figure.



 
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Quote from: Sandtrap on March 29, 2016, 06:05:50 PM
Quote from: Yulius Kaisar on March 29, 2016, 05:54:33 PM
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Quote from: Saint Endo on March 29, 2016, 05:26:28 PM
still better than the fucking Spartans (Spartans are still badass though)
And overrated
It amazes me to this day how American pop culture basically worships a bunch of protofascist slave holders.

Literally all of Spartan society was structured around slavery. The spartans had to train to be ready to keep the slaves in line because the slaves always had to do all the work because the spartans had to train to be ready to keep the slaves in line because the slaves always had to do all of the work because the spartans... and so on.

The irony here is that our modern day setup is based around a similar concept, albiet executed with more finesse, as the slaves have lots of padding and fun stuff to keep them working and relatively happy but still doing all the work.

Obviously there's a little more wiggle room than "You don't feel like working, okay, we'll just kill you." Now it's just, "Don't feel like working? Go homeless and lose access to all the pretty shit."

Maybe that's why american pop culture worships slave holders.

Huh, go figure.
I think that might be society in general, not just American. The class system will always be a thing, no matter what form of government and society we're under.

 
 
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Quote from: Yulius Kaisar on March 29, 2016, 05:54:33 PM
Quote from: Luciana on March 29, 2016, 05:49:22 PM
Quote from: Saint Endo on March 29, 2016, 05:26:28 PM
still better than the fucking Spartans (Spartans are still badass though)
And overrated
It amazes me to this day how American pop culture basically worships a bunch of protofascist slave holders.

Literally all of Spartan society was structured around slavery. The spartans had to train to be ready to keep the slaves in line because the slaves always had to do all the work because the spartans had to train to be ready to keep the slaves in line because the slaves always had to do all of the work because the spartans... and so on.
Yeah that, and I just mean from a military standpoint too. Sure they were fierce, but they got their shit rekt by a confederation, and then the Romans just played supervisor until they finally decided to take Greece.

 
 
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I honestly think the movie 300 gave society a boner for them again.

 
 
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Quote from: Luciana on March 29, 2016, 07:32:39 PM
I honestly think the movie 300 gave society a boner for them again.

With all the homoeroticism in the movie, are you really surprised?

 
 
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Quote from: Luciana on March 29, 2016, 07:21:28 PM
Quote from: Sandtrap on March 29, 2016, 06:05:50 PM
Quote from: Yulius Kaisar on March 29, 2016, 05:54:33 PM
Quote from: Luciana on March 29, 2016, 05:49:22 PM
Quote from: Saint Endo on March 29, 2016, 05:26:28 PM
still better than the fucking Spartans (Spartans are still badass though)
And overrated
It amazes me to this day how American pop culture basically worships a bunch of protofascist slave holders.

Literally all of Spartan society was structured around slavery. The spartans had to train to be ready to keep the slaves in line because the slaves always had to do all the work because the spartans had to train to be ready to keep the slaves in line because the slaves always had to do all of the work because the spartans... and so on.

The irony here is that our modern day setup is based around a similar concept, albiet executed with more finesse, as the slaves have lots of padding and fun stuff to keep them working and relatively happy but still doing all the work.

Obviously there's a little more wiggle room than "You don't feel like working, okay, we'll just kill you." Now it's just, "Don't feel like working? Go homeless and lose access to all the pretty shit."

Maybe that's why american pop culture worships slave holders.

Huh, go figure.
I think that might be society in general, not just American. The class system will always be a thing, no matter what form of government and society we're under.

Oh I'd figure as much. America wouldn't be the root and only practicioner of the whole lot. They merely adopted it.

But Britain?

They were born with it. Molded by it.

 
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The Persians got beat by Alexander the Gay.

 
 
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Quote from: Black Phillip on March 29, 2016, 08:04:37 PM
The Persians got beat by Alexander the Gay.
They almost beat those Greeks as the Sassanids, but then the filthy Muslims came and took em over and then... took over... the Greeks?

...

Sure.

 
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Quote from: challengerX on March 29, 2016, 07:31:41 PM
If I saw a spartan walking down the street I wouldn't even greet him