FUCK THE SYSTEM

Nobody cares.

Please stop.

oh looks like rocketman going through a 90s anti-government phase

>statistics

maybe you should do a report on the statistics of people who actually benefit from taking a statistics class.

Please stop.

Please stop

>statistics

maybe you should do a report on the statistics of people who actually benefit from taking a statistics class.

A single class obviously isn't beneficial. But gotta knock all these prerequisites out

You should calculate the odds of God being real.

Your avatar didn't load (tapatalk) so I thought someone stole your line haha!

You should calculate the odds of God being real.

I doubt he'd be able to do that if he isn't doing Bayesian probability.

Fortunately, I'm a layman.

Definitions:

1) X is any arbitrary event. (I was born in Germany.)

2) ¬X denotes "not X". (I was not born in Germany.)

3) E represents the existence of positive evidence that indicate X is correct. (My birth certificate is from Germany.)

4) ¬E denotes "not E", or the total absence of positive evidence.

5) P(X) denotes the probability of X.

6) P(X|E) denotes the conditional probability of X given E; this is the joint probability of X and E divided by the probability of E.

P(X|E) = P(X^E) / P(E)

Assumption (1):
- If an event like X were to really have happened, then it very likely left some evidence of itself. In other words, the probability of E, given X, is greater than the probability of NOT E, given X.

P(E|X) > P(¬E|X)

1 - P(¬E|X) > P(¬E|X)

P(¬E|X) < 1/2

This isn't an unfair assumption, as most things of significance leave some sort of evidence.

Now we invoke Bayes' Theorem: P(¬E|X) = P(X|¬E)P(¬E) / P(X).

-> 1/2 > P(X|¬E)P(¬E) / P(X)

P(X|¬E) < (1/2) P(X)/P(¬E)

Thinking about P(X) in the equation immediately prior, is X a likely or unlikely event?

Assumption 2:
- The event X is extraordinary. P(X) << 1. The probability of event X is very small.

Let X be an intersection of two statistically independent events, A and B. X = A^B. (I was born in Germany, and I love shitting on my neighbour's lawn.) However, the joint probability of A and B is always equal to or less than the probability of A or B. P(AB) = P(A)P(B). The more events which define X, the lower the probability.

Returning to the emboldened equation, consider the term P(¬E). What can we say about the likelihood of evidence for X?

Assumption 3:
- We have searched for evidence of X, but failed to find any. P(¬E) [approx.]= 1. The probability of no actual evidence for X is very high, and the more we search for E but fail, the closer this value approaches 1.

Bringing forward the emboldened equation again:

P(X|¬E) < (1/2) P(X)/P(¬E)

The more specific and extraordinary X, the closer P(X) is to 0. And the more we search for evidence, but fail, the closer ¬E is to 1. The ratio here [P(X)/P(¬E)] then, must be very small. As long as this ratio is less than one, the entire right-hand side of the inequality is less than one-half.

P(X|¬E) < 1/2. This inequality must hold. This implies: P(¬X|¬E) > 1/2.

We finally arrive at:

P(¬X|¬E) > P(X|¬E). In other words, given an absence of any evidence for X, the more likely event is that X did not, in fact, occur.

This is a demonstration of the epistemic principle known as the inference to the best explanation. Many things cannot be known with absolute certainty, but we can show which explanations are most preferable.

Recap:
1) An event like X should leave evidence.
2) All things being equal, X is unlikely.
3) We have searched for evidence of X, but failed.

From these premises, it mathematically follows that ¬X is a more likely event than X.

Let X be the following claim:

The Virgin Mary, upon being impregnated by Yahweh, gave birth to a half-blooded demigod named Jesus of Nazareth. During his life, Jesus performed many miracles that included healing the sick, raising the dead and turning water into wine. Jesus also took the aggregate sins of humanity upon himself, and gave his own life for us. Upon his execution by Roman authorities, Jesus rose from the dead and ascended to Heaven. All of these events were compiled into the record, with inerrancy, known as the New Testament.

And anybody who fails to believe this will spend an eternity in endless suffering.

If any of this is to be the case, we should find evidence beyond mere say-so.

P(E|X) > P(¬E|X).

X is a huge intersection of independent events, all competing with the various denominations and interpretations of Christian doctrine which is, in turn, competing with those belonging to other religions. Significant positive evidence for Christianity is yet to have been found, also.

P(X) [appox.]= 0.

P(¬E) [approx.]= 1.

P(¬X|¬E) [approx.]= 1. Quad erat demonstrandum.

Oh

Quote from: Executioner Sigma on September 09, 2015, 03:23:02 PM

Quote from: Cheat on September 09, 2015, 02:03:42 PM

You should calculate the odds of God being real.

I doubt he'd be able to do that if he isn't doing Bayesian probability.

Fortunately, I'm a layman.

Definitions:

1) X is any arbitrary event. (I was born in Germany.)

2) ¬X denotes "not X". (I was not born in Germany.)

3) E represents the existence of positive evidence that indicate X is correct. (My birth certificate is from Germany.)

4) ¬E denotes "not E", or the total absence of positive evidence.

5) P(X) denotes the probability of X.

6) P(X|E) denotes the conditional probability of X given E; this is the joint probability of X and E divided by the probability of E.

P(X|E) = P(X^E) / P(E)

Assumption (1):
- If an event like X were to really have happened, then it very likely left some evidence of itself. In other words, the probability of E, given X, is greater than the probability of NOT E, given X.

P(E|X) > P(¬E|X)

1 - P(¬E|X) > P(¬E|X)

P(¬E|X) < 1/2

This isn't an unfair assumption, as most things of significance leave some sort of evidence.

Now we invoke Bayes' Theorem: P(¬E|X) = P(X|¬E)P(¬E) / P(X).

-> 1/2 > P(X|¬E)P(¬E) / P(X)

P(X|¬E) < (1/2) P(X)/P(¬E)

Thinking about P(X) in the equation immediately prior, is X a likely or unlikely event?

Assumption 2:
- The event X is extraordinary. P(X) << 1. The probability of event X is very small.

Let X be an intersection of two statistically independent events, A and B. X = A^B. (I was born in Germany, and I love shitting on my neighbour's lawn.) However, the joint probability of A and B is always equal to or less than the probability of A or B. P(AB) = P(A)P(B). The more events which define X, the lower the probability.

Returning to the emboldened equation, consider the term P(¬E). What can we say about the likelihood of evidence for X?

Assumption 3:
- We have searched for evidence of X, but failed to find any. P(¬E) [approx.]= 1. The probability of no actual evidence for X is very high, and the more we search for E but fail, the closer this value approaches 1.

Bringing forward the emboldened equation again:

P(X|¬E) < (1/2) P(X)/P(¬E)

The more specific and extraordinary X, the closer P(X) is to 0. And the more we search for evidence, but fail, the closer ¬E is to 1. The ratio here [P(X)/P(¬E)] then, must be very small. As long as this ratio is less than one, the entire right-hand side of the inequality is less than one-half.

P(X|¬E) < 1/2. This inequality must hold. This implies: P(¬X|¬E) > 1/2.

We finally arrive at:

P(¬X|¬E) > P(X|¬E). In other words, given an absence of any evidence for X, the more likely event is that X did not, in fact, occur.

This is a demonstration of the epistemic principle known as the inference to the best explanation. Many things cannot be known with absolute certainty, but we can show which explanations are most preferable.

Recap:
1) An event like X should leave evidence.
2) All things being equal, X is unlikely.
3) We have searched for evidence of X, but failed.

From these premises, it mathematically follows that ¬X is a more likely event than X.

Let X be the following claim:

Quote

The Virgin Mary, upon being impregnated by Yahweh, gave birth to a half-blooded demigod named Jesus of Nazareth. During his life, Jesus performed many miracles that included healing the sick, raising the dead and turning water into wine. Jesus also took the aggregate sins of humanity upon himself, and gave his own life for us. Upon his execution by Roman authorities, Jesus rose from the dead and ascended to Heaven. All of these events were compiled into the record, with inerrancy, known as the New Testament.

And anybody who fails to believe this will spend an eternity in endless suffering.

If any of this is to be the case, we should find evidence beyond mere say-so.

P(E|X) > P(¬E|X).

X is a huge intersection of independent events, all competing with the various denominations and interpretations of Christian doctrine which is, in turn, competing with those belonging to other religions. Significant positive evidence for Christianity is yet to have been found, also.

P(X) [appox.]= 0.

P(¬E) [approx.]= 1.

P(¬X|¬E) [approx.]= 1. Quad erat demonstrandum.

Oh.

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