Leelah Alcorn was basically told she will never be allowed to be a woman when she's transgender. How can that alone not be a signal to you that she was being treated terribly? Not only did she suffer through the intolerance of her own parents, but she was taken out of school and her internet was taken away too. Not only did she have no one at home to accept who she was, she didn't have friends online who she could talk to either. She was sent to "therapists" who basically told her that she was wrong and selfish for being transgender. That is child abuse. I don't think you understand what transgender is, and I don't think you understand how it effects the people who wish they were a different gender. It is crushing to them. I was close friends with someone who is transgender.

Quote from: Loaf on January 09, 2015, 08:01:07 PM

Leelah Alcorn was basically told she will never be allowed to be a woman when she's transgender. How can that alone not be a signal to you that she was being treated terribly? Not only did she suffer through the intolerance of her own parents, but she was taken out of school and her internet was taken away too. Not only did she have no one at home to accept who she was, she didn't have friends online who she could talk to either. She was sent to "therapists" who basically told her that she was wrong and selfish for being transgender. That is child abuse. I don't think you understand what transgender is, and I don't think you understand how it effects the people who wish they were a different gender. It is crushing to them. I was close friends with someone who is transgender.

Yo. Guess what sweet cheeks?
You're talking to someone who's trans right now.

Doesn't mean Leelah wasn't treated completely unfairly. It just sounded like you were belittling.

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on January 09, 2015, 08:06:12 PM

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Nuka, don't explode please.

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For some reason I expected a worse explanation than above.

Maybe I've just been around Noelle's type too much and too many different times...

I'm not Noelle.

I see that.

Quote from: Mr Psychologist on January 06, 2015, 02:39:26 PM

Something like shutting off the wifi is what I'd put under a reasonable punishment/behavioural readjustment tool. Loosely.

Something like telling you what clothes you have to wear though, that's not so reasonable. Assuming your jacket didn't have either swastikas on the sleeves, lewd drawings on the back or said something rude then yeah that's pretty bad of them.

You can talk to them about it, approach them maturely and ask them. Don't shout/demand/expect to actually get anywhere, but if you at least show flexibility/reasonable behaviour then reasonable parents would be more inclined to give you some leeway.

If however, you are unfortunate enough to be lumped with totalitarians, then my advice would be to put up with it and get self sufficient as soon as possible. Probably the worst thing to do would be to go to war with them over somewhat trivial matters in the grand scale of things <.<

yeah dad just thought the coat wasn't thick enough even though it's been fine with me for the past few months. Yeah and the wifi thing, they wanted to read all my convos and shit. So I said no and they stopped letting me use the wifi. Which sucks. I'm glad the library has wifi though.
Lol ironically the first day I wear my new coat, I get a cold and had to put up with headaches and a runny nose all yesterday and today. -_-

That doesn't sound controlling at all, more like they're worried about your health and education.

I literally had no idea. I feel kinda shitty now. Let's just drop this now.

Quote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on January 09, 2015, 08:06:38 PM

Quote from: Loaf on January 09, 2015, 08:05:39 PM

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Quote from: Loaf on January 09, 2015, 08:01:07 PM

Leelah Alcorn was basically told she will never be allowed to be a woman when she's transgender. How can that alone not be a signal to you that she was being treated terribly? Not only did she suffer through the intolerance of her own parents, but she was taken out of school and her internet was taken away too. Not only did she have no one at home to accept who she was, she didn't have friends online who she could talk to either. She was sent to "therapists" who basically told her that she was wrong and selfish for being transgender. That is child abuse. I don't think you understand what transgender is, and I don't think you understand how it effects the people who wish they were a different gender. It is crushing to them. I was close friends with someone who is transgender.

Yo. Guess what sweet cheeks?
You're talking to someone who's trans right now.

Doesn't mean Leelah wasn't treated completely unfairly.

When did I say that? Because I didn't.

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Would I say that what she went through wasn't tough? No, because I know what it's like.

Nevermind. It just sounded really belittling. I was very moved by her story and I don't really see how it's not as bad as people make it out to be. Sounds like a pretty scary situation for someone of her age.

sounds like a typical trans story. Maybe it just seems that way because that's exactly how my parents see trans people as well.