Donald Trump comes out of his convention ahead of Hillary Clinton in the race for the White House, topping her 44% to 39% in a four-way matchup including Gary Johnson (9%) and Jill Stein (3%) and by three points in a two-way head-to-head, 48% to 45%. That latter finding represents a 6-point convention bounce for Trump, which are traditionally measured in two-way matchups.There hasn't been a significant post-convention bounce in CNN's polling since 2000. That year Al Gore and George W. Bush both boosted their numbers by an identical 8 points post-convention before ultimately battling all the way to the Supreme Court.National polls don't have a large enough sample to accurately reflect the state of play in key battlegrounds, and there is little information thus far on how Trump's convention performance has affected the presidential race state-by-state.The new findings mark Trump's best showing in a CNN/ORC Poll against Clinton since September 2015. Trump's new edge rests largely on increased support among independents, 43% of whom said that Trump's convention in Cleveland left them more likely to back him, while 41% were dissuaded. Pre-convention, independents split 34% Clinton to 31% Trump, with sizable numbers behind Johnson (22%) and Stein (10%). Now, 46% say they back Trump, 28% Clinton, 15% Johnson and 4% Stein.
National polls don't have a large enough sample to accurately reflect the state of play in key battlegrounds, and there is little information thus far on how Trump's convention performance has affected the presidential race state-by-state.
I'll look a bit more into this later today, but just gonna leave this hereQuoteNational polls don't have a large enough sample to accurately reflect the state of play in key battlegrounds, and there is little information thus far on how Trump's convention performance has affected the presidential race state-by-state.
Quote from: Icy on July 25, 2016, 10:09:13 AMI'll look a bit more into this later today, but just gonna leave this hereQuoteNational polls don't have a large enough sample to accurately reflect the state of play in key battlegrounds, and there is little information thus far on how Trump's convention performance has affected the presidential race state-by-state.I understand your point, but do you ever worry you're dismissing the evidence because of your own political bias and might end up with egg on your face?
zero general election debates
Quote from: Icy on July 25, 2016, 10:18:19 AMzero general election debatesDo you think Hillary will be able to beat back Teflon Don in the debates?
But debates can be incredibly important to independent voters, who most of the time are very much on the fence until the last few weeks before election day.
Quote from: Icy on July 25, 2016, 10:34:11 AMBut debates can be incredibly important to independent voters, who most of the time are very much on the fence until the last few weeks before election day.And they'll be the deciding factor this election.
Don't you know? Polls only matter to liberals when their candidate is winning.
I'd like to know why I should vote for a candidate instead of against their opponent. So far Bernie was the only one saying why you should vote for him. All of the others have only said why you shouldn't vote for whoever they were competing against at that moment.
Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on July 25, 2016, 11:25:31 AMI'd like to know why I should vote for a candidate instead of against their opponent. So far Bernie was the only one saying why you should vote for him. All of the others have only said why you shouldn't vote for whoever they were competing against at that moment.I'm voting for Gary Johnson because I feel the country could do with more than just the two party system when you get two shit candidates like this.
Hillary will "win" every debate because the media will say so and most people don't watch the debates
If you don't vote Hillary you're basically voting Trump fyi
Quote from: Kalusta on July 25, 2016, 03:52:58 PMIf you don't vote Hillary you're basically voting Trump fyi That doesn't make any sense.
Quote from: Maverick on July 25, 2016, 08:45:02 PMQuote from: Kalusta on July 25, 2016, 03:52:58 PMIf you don't vote Hillary you're basically voting Trump fyi That doesn't make any sense.Yes it does
Quote from: Kalusta on July 25, 2016, 08:47:17 PMQuote from: Maverick on July 25, 2016, 08:45:02 PMQuote from: Kalusta on July 25, 2016, 03:52:58 PMIf you don't vote Hillary you're basically voting Trump fyi That doesn't make any sense.Yes it doesNo, it doesn't.If Trump has 99 votes, and you vote for a third party, Trump still has 99 votes.
Than you don't understand what I'm saying.
Because none of what you're saying is making any sense.
Quote from: Verbatim on July 25, 2016, 08:59:54 PMBecause none of what you're saying is making any sense.How is it not making sense?If Hillary doesn't win, Trump wins. Your candidate is not going to win a general election, you understand that... right?
Quote from: Kalusta on July 25, 2016, 08:55:05 PMThan you don't understand what I'm saying.Because none of what you're saying is making any sense.
Quote from: Verbatim on July 25, 2016, 08:59:54 PMQuote from: Kalusta on July 25, 2016, 08:55:05 PMThan you don't understand what I'm saying.Because none of what you're saying is making any sense.If you vote for a third party, then that vote that could have gone to say, Hillary, won'tTherefore Trump may still have 99 votes, but Hillary will only have 98Voting third party takes votes away from the two parties that actually are capable of winning, which is one of the huge issues with two party systems