Quote from: Mmmmm Napalm on March 23, 2016, 12:57:43 AMDoor, I'm curious as to why you have chosen Orthodoxy over other denominations?The Orthodox notion of Theosis first and foremost. It is desirable to me and I find it more practically and theologically impressive than the idea of Christianity as a way to get into eternal fun and hedonism land in the sky. The idea of Christianity as a path to get closer to God is extremely appealing to me personally, as a way to both fulfill AND transcend my egoistic and self-serving nature. By seeking salvation and closeness to God, I am able to act in my self-interest while also working toward escaping and transcending my inherently self-serving and sinful nature.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theosis_%28Eastern_Orthodox_theology%29Aside from that, I find the worship style much more spiritually uplifting and engaging than the sermons and praise bands I grew up on. The saturday night Vespers services in particular always make my heart sing.From a practical standpoint, I find the use of iconography and veneration of saints helpful. It helps add a kind of "system" or structure to my faith, and I often look to the stories of saints for inspiration. When you worship in an Orthodox church, you are surrounded not only by your fellow Christians on earth, but by all of the saints and angels there have ever been.I also respect the Orthodox Church's claims to legitimacy, although I am more skeptical about it than most converts probably are. I am also very supportive of the use of tradition (big T and small t tradition) as a guide when interpreting and practicing Christianity.QuoteI myself am in denominational limbo; I have been looking at the teachings of different denominations and trying to decide which best fits.Consider Orthodoxy. Visit an Orthodox service (vespers is probably better than liturgy, if you like a smaller and more simple service. Liturgy is usually bigger, more grand and crowded). I'm not going to tell you it's the best kind of Christianity and you're dumb for not joining, that's really up to God to say, but it is definitely worth a try.
Door, I'm curious as to why you have chosen Orthodoxy over other denominations?
I myself am in denominational limbo; I have been looking at the teachings of different denominations and trying to decide which best fits.
Quote from: Decimator Omega on March 23, 2016, 01:29:54 AMYouTubeWhy is actively atheistic music such edgy shit?YouTube
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Quote from: Decimator Omega on March 23, 2016, 01:39:16 AMBecause fuck your magical bearded Santa Claus in the sky.I'm gonna pray for you brah.QuoteIf god was real he'd be the biggest dick in existence.You're trying to project secular morailty (ironically derived from religious values) onto an entity that is far beyond your comprehensive ability.It doesn't matter what fucking humanism would have to say about God, He's God, and to turn away from Him because of His rating based on some spooked out ""enlightenement"" moral system is stupid as fuck.
Because fuck your magical bearded Santa Claus in the sky.
If god was real he'd be the biggest dick in existence.
Quote from: Decimator Omega on March 23, 2016, 02:08:29 AMGod isn't real.DUDE ONLY THAT WHICH MY LIMITED SENSORY AND INTELLECTUAL ABILITIES CAN CONCLUSIVELY CONFIRM TO EXIST IN A FORM OBSERVABLE BY ME IS WORTH MY TIME LMAO DIBS BEDORAHUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS OF HUMAN SPIRITUALITY ARE MERELY THE DELUDED RAMBLINGS OF APES AFRAID TO DIE LMAO
God isn't real.
Quote from: Yulius Kaisar on March 23, 2016, 02:06:54 AMQuote from: Decimator Omega on March 23, 2016, 01:39:16 AMBecause fuck your magical bearded Santa Claus in the sky.I'm gonna pray for you brah.QuoteIf god was real he'd be the biggest dick in existence.You're trying to project secular morailty (ironically derived from religious values) onto an entity that is far beyond your comprehensive ability.It doesn't matter what fucking humanism would have to say about God, He's God, and to turn away from Him because of His rating based on some spooked out ""enlightenement"" moral system is stupid as fuck.Deci got his entire conception of religion from YouTube atheist vloggers.He always regurgitates others. I don't think he's ever looked inward about anything.
Quote from: Decimator Omega on March 23, 2016, 02:42:01 AMI don't believe in any deity and I never will.y tho.Give me something more substantial than "God's not real".
I don't believe in any deity and I never will.
Quote from: Decimator Omega on March 23, 2016, 02:59:35 AMBecause like Santa Claus, God is that for adults. Its a way to control and keep people in line.If you're talking about the role of the authoritative Other, yeah, God does that in the way spooked ideas do to those who aren't religious. Doesn't have any bearing on the religion, and it isn't some conspiracy to keep the proles in line, maaan.Wait what the fuck does that have to do with SantaQuoteI don't believe in any greater power and I'm a man of sciencelmao r u b8ing meQuoteI don't have faith in anything. Praying will never solve your problems. Its all under probability.You do though. You just called yourself a man of science. Is that your banner?QuoteEverything that has ever happened in this world, in this solar system, this universe, was all by chance.Just like how there is a chance that when you flip a coin it will land on either heads or tales. Probability.You have not yet explained why you think this.QuoteAs far as god goes, there is no probability of him existing at all.Stop. QuoteSecretly every priest knows this.Obviously.Quote Religion itself is nothing more but a tool to control peopleThis explains everything, really. Of course it's all a conspiracy.Quote, people that follow or go to church are generally sheep, Yes, generally, but not for the reasons you think. Quotebecause they believe they will go to hell and have to deal with the devil.This is religion at its most base and hedonistic form. Barbarian religions like Islam are based on this. Christianity is above it, although many Christians don't realize it. You still haven't clarified why they're wrong about hell and the devil, though.QuoteHell and the devil don't exist either.okayQuoteThe only reason why there are people that believe in a god or heaven is because nobody in truth knows what happens to us exactly after we die.Generally, our bodies start to decay.QuoteIts one of the biggest mysteries in life and its unknown, and that scares people.You generalize. I don't really give a fuck about what happens after I die (heaven doesn't sound half bad though). I am religious today because I am concerned about my life.QuotePersonally, I believe after death, we go back to where we were before we were born. Before we were even conceived.Non existence. Erased from life entirely.Why you think this though.
Because like Santa Claus, God is that for adults. Its a way to control and keep people in line.
I don't believe in any greater power and I'm a man of science
I don't have faith in anything. Praying will never solve your problems. Its all under probability.
Everything that has ever happened in this world, in this solar system, this universe, was all by chance.Just like how there is a chance that when you flip a coin it will land on either heads or tales. Probability.
As far as god goes, there is no probability of him existing at all.
Secretly every priest knows this.
Religion itself is nothing more but a tool to control people
, people that follow or go to church are generally sheep,
because they believe they will go to hell and have to deal with the devil.
Hell and the devil don't exist either.
The only reason why there are people that believe in a god or heaven is because nobody in truth knows what happens to us exactly after we die.
Its one of the biggest mysteries in life and its unknown, and that scares people.
Personally, I believe after death, we go back to where we were before we were born. Before we were even conceived.Non existence. Erased from life entirely.
I also respect the Orthodox Church's claims to legitimacy, although I am more skeptical about it than most converts probably are. I am also very supportive of the use of tradition (big T and small t tradition) as a guide when interpreting and practicing Christianity.
Quote from: Decimator Omega on March 23, 2016, 03:21:27 AMToo tired to respond to all of these now. PM me about it during the day.Goodnight.Just do yourself a favor and take some time to seriously think about why you believe what you do.
Too tired to respond to all of these now. PM me about it during the day.Goodnight.