can you be a trans chick that acts like a dude but is "biologically" a girl?

 
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like no dick, adams apple, etc. but you still retain your masculine personality

or do the hormones and pills and shit take that away


 
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I don't understand the question.


 
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I don't understand the question.

okay so theres a dude who wants to look and "be" a chick (no dick, feminine looks, etc.) but he wants to still be mentally a dude (masculine personality)

if he goes through with surgery and hormones and stuff, that isn't possible, right? you can't fully transition to the opposite sex unless you go through hormone treatment, and that effects your mind, right?


basically i was having a conversation with a buddy about how a trans chick (m to f) would be the best of both worlds cuz you get a person that looks like a chick but doesn't come with all the problems a chick would. but then he said "yeah but the hormones would just change him into a chick in that way anyway".


 
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Holy fuck guy, no, HRT does not fuck up your personality like that. You remain who are, with the interests you've always had. A transwoman who was a mechanic before won't suddenly stop enjoying her work and decide to become a seamstress.


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why would you want to transition into a girl if you're not one mentally?


 
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Holy fuck guy, no, HRT does not fuck up your personality like that. You remain who are, with the interests you've always had. A transwoman who was a mechanic before won't suddenly stop enjoying her work and decide to become a seamstress.

yeah that's what i fucking thought

cool, thx yo


 
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why would you want to transition into a girl if you're not one mentally?

maybe you're gay and youre in love with an open-minded straight dude, so you go through with the transition for him?

idk, just a hypothetical situation.
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I don't understand the question.

okay so theres a dude who wants to look and "be" a chick (no dick, feminine looks, etc.) but he wants to still be mentally a dude (masculine personality)

if he goes through with surgery and hormones and stuff, that isn't possible, right? you can't fully transition to the opposite sex unless you go through hormone treatment, and that effects your mind, right?


basically i was having a conversation with a buddy about how a trans chick (m to f) would be the best of both worlds cuz you get a person that looks like a chick but doesn't come with all the problems a chick would. but then he said "yeah but the hormones would just change him into a chick in that way anyway".
The hormones will change some thought processes because you are changing your chemical balancing. That doesn't mean you'd become a Barbie if you were a macho man, but the "problems" you'd get with a natural female would be very similar to the ones you'd have with mtf.

There's a general belief that mtf tend to be unstable, at least in comparison to ftm. Estrogen's a hell of a drug.


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trans people are mentally ill, so who knows


 
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I don't understand the question.

okay so theres a dude who wants to look and "be" a chick (no dick, feminine looks, etc.) but he wants to still be mentally a dude (masculine personality)

if he goes through with surgery and hormones and stuff, that isn't possible, right? you can't fully transition to the opposite sex unless you go through hormone treatment, and that effects your mind, right?


basically i was having a conversation with a buddy about how a trans chick (m to f) would be the best of both worlds cuz you get a person that looks like a chick but doesn't come with all the problems a chick would. but then he said "yeah but the hormones would just change him into a chick in that way anyway".
The hormones will change some thought processes because you are changing your chemical balancing. That doesn't mean you'd become a Barbie if you were a macho man, but the "problems" you'd get with a natural female would be very similar to the ones you'd have with mtf.

There's a general belief that mtf tend to be unstable, at least in comparison to ftm. Estrogen's a hell of a drug.

oh... that's disheartening


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I don't understand the question.

okay so theres a dude who wants to look and "be" a chick (no dick, feminine looks, etc.) but he wants to still be mentally a dude (masculine personality)

if he goes through with surgery and hormones and stuff, that isn't possible, right? you can't fully transition to the opposite sex unless you go through hormone treatment, and that effects your mind, right?


basically i was having a conversation with a buddy about how a trans chick (m to f) would be the best of both worlds cuz you get a person that looks like a chick but doesn't come with all the problems a chick would. but then he said "yeah but the hormones would just change him into a chick in that way anyway".
The hormones will change some thought processes because you are changing your chemical balancing. That doesn't mean you'd become a Barbie if you were a macho man, but the "problems" you'd get with a natural female would be very similar to the ones you'd have with mtf.

There's a general belief that mtf tend to be unstable, at least in comparison to ftm. Estrogen's a hell of a drug.

oh... that's disheartening
That doesn't mean that someone would have a 180 in their personality though; like was said earlier, a mechanic will still like working on cars. Might respond to things a bit differently, emotionally or otherwise.

Not better or worse, just different. The idea that someone would transition for someone else because that person doesn't want to be "gay" is terrible, though. Transitioning even though you're "content" with your gender would be like wanting to transition but being unable to. It can REALLY fuck you up.


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It's not like it just flat out changes their personality but it does affect their emotional state


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why would you want to transition into a girl if you're not one mentally?
i dont/never have had feelings of gender/sexual dysphoria but if you took me to a doctors office tomorrow and told me that i had the option to upload my consciousness to a cyborg body id choose a feminine model. the "why" of it isnt entirely clear to me though
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why would you want to transition into a girl if you're not one mentally?
i dont/never have had feelings of gender/sexual dysphoria but if you took me to a doctors office tomorrow and told me that i had the option to upload my consciousness to a cyborg body id choose a feminine model. the "why" of it isnt entirely clear to me though

You wanna flick that bean don'tcha


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why would you want to transition into a girl if you're not one mentally?
i dont/never have had feelings of gender/sexual dysphoria but if you took me to a doctors office tomorrow and told me that i had the option to upload my consciousness to a cyborg body id choose a feminine model. the "why" of it isnt entirely clear to me though

You wanna flick that bean don'tcha
honestly not really


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why would you want to transition into a girl if you're not one mentally?
i dont/never have had feelings of gender/sexual dysphoria but if you took me to a doctors office tomorrow and told me that i had the option to upload my consciousness to a cyborg body id choose a feminine model. the "why" of it isnt entirely clear to me though
autogynophilia
I don't get why this is everyone's go to diagnosis for late transitioners

it doesn't seem like that many people would have a transition fetish


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why would you want to transition into a girl if you're not one mentally?
i dont/never have had feelings of gender/sexual dysphoria but if you took me to a doctors office tomorrow and told me that i had the option to upload my consciousness to a cyborg body id choose a feminine model. the "why" of it isnt entirely clear to me though
autogynophilia

Not gonna lie
Female POV is not bad at all


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why would you want to transition into a girl if you're not one mentally?
i dont/never have had feelings of gender/sexual dysphoria but if you took me to a doctors office tomorrow and told me that i had the option to upload my consciousness to a cyborg body id choose a feminine model. the "why" of it isnt entirely clear to me though
autogynophilia
I don't get why this is everyone's go to diagnosis for late transitioners

it doesn't seem like that many people would have a transition fetish
AGPs are just people with an extreme fetish. Basically if the idea of having a female body gives you a boner, you're AGP. They're not real trannys but they like to pretend to be.
I know....?

Hence why I said I don't know why everyone always diagnoses late transitioners with being agp

it seems more obscure than people make it out to be


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For starters that question passes through my gray matter and comes out making no sense.



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Basically if the idea of having a female body gives you a boner, you're AGP.
it doesnt give me a boner


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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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why would you want to transition into a girl if you're not one mentally?
i dont/never have had feelings of gender/sexual dysphoria but if you took me to a doctors office tomorrow and told me that i had the option to upload my consciousness to a cyborg body id choose a feminine model. the "why" of it isnt entirely clear to me though
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I don't get why this is everyone's go to diagnosis for late transitioners

it doesn't seem like that many people would have a transition fetish
AGPs are just people with an extreme fetish. Basically if the idea of having a female body gives you a boner, you're AGP. They're not real trannys but they like to pretend to be.
I know....?

Hence why I said I don't know why everyone always diagnoses late transitioners with being agp

it seems more obscure than people make it out to be
I guess because it's easier to assume that it's just a fetish that went to far if they never acted on their dysphoria sooner. Not that it's true because a lot of people just suppress themselves because they have to, but yeah late transitioners are more likely to be AGP.

Also late transitioners are more likely to look like garbage.
I didn't even know I was trans until like 16, what's to say others don't until 30 or 40? You're "supposed to" when you're a child

and yeah, but that's not something you can control...


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why would you want to transition into a girl if you're not one mentally?
i dont/never have had feelings of gender/sexual dysphoria but if you took me to a doctors office tomorrow and told me that i had the option to upload my consciousness to a cyborg body id choose a feminine model. the "why" of it isnt entirely clear to me though

If I had to take a guess, I'd wager part of it comes down to curiousity. The opposite sex is alien to the one you know.


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why would you want to transition into a girl if you're not one mentally?

maybe you're gay and youre in love with an open-minded straight dude,
This man would not be straight


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Reminds me of that one Wachowski brother that transitioned to a girl and then went lesbian lol


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Reminds me of that one Wachowski brother that transitioned to a girl and then went lesbian lol
what's wrong with that


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Reminds me of that one Wachowski brother that transitioned to a girl and then went lesbian lol

I thought both of them did.


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Reminds me of that one Wachowski brother that transitioned to a girl and then went lesbian lol

I thought both of them did.
they've both transitioned but i'm not sure about both of them being lesbians


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Reminds me of that one Wachowski brother that transitioned to a girl and then went lesbian lol

I thought both of them did.
they've both transitioned but i'm not sure about both of them being lesbians

Makes me wonder. Depending on the strength of a relationship between siblings, there's a lot of influence when it comes to choices.

I wonder if one going through the process more or less potentially influenced the other. When I say influence I don't mean "help bring out of the closet." More or less effect the other enough to warrent a change instead.


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Reminds me of that one Wachowski brother that transitioned to a girl and then went lesbian lol
what's wrong with that

Besides transitioning in the first place, nothing
I just thought it was kind of funny