My thoughts are that the people who believe this are some of the biggest fools we have in today's society.

Please tell me it wasn't on here. Although the usual suspects would still probably think that even if they didn't downright say such a stupid thing on here.

just saw a post implying they could be "prejudiced but not racist"

i guess the sentiment is coming from their flawed understanding of racism

that
racism = prejudice + power

blacks believe they have no/little power and are therefore incapable of being racist

but my contention is that there should be no connotational difference between racism and prejudice, they should be used interchangably, and you should be censured for being either

yes, they can

If you think that blacks can't be racist because they have no power, you must be really out of touch with this world. Did Obama, the NAACP, affirmative action, and so on stop existing suddenly?

Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on June 17, 2017, 01:32:30 PM

If you think that blacks can't be racist because they have no power, you must be really out of touch with this world. Did Obama, the NAACP, affirmative action, and so on stop existing suddenly?

explain how those things give blacks "power"

You're asking how organizations created to give blacks power, government programs to help blacks, and having the most powerful individual in the United States be black gives blacks power?

Quote from: Kakashi597 on June 17, 2017, 01:38:40 PM

Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on June 17, 2017, 01:32:30 PM

If you think that blacks can't be racist because they have no power, you must be really out of touch with this world. Did Obama, the NAACP, affirmative action, and so on stop existing suddenly?

explain how those things give blacks "power"

You're asking how organizations created to give blacks power, government programs to help blacks, and having the most powerful individual in the United States be black gives blacks power?

The former POTUS doesn't empower blacks, as it did little to change the system that disempowered them. The governmental programs are aimed at the poor, and not change the system.

I'm not saying you should feel guilty, this system was created well before either of us were born. We had nothing to do with it's creation. But we can at least acknowledge it's existence

Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on June 17, 2017, 01:41:41 PM

Quote from: Kakashi597 on June 17, 2017, 01:38:40 PM

Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on June 17, 2017, 01:32:30 PM

If you think that blacks can't be racist because they have no power, you must be really out of touch with this world. Did Obama, the NAACP, affirmative action, and so on stop existing suddenly?

explain how those things give blacks "power"

You're asking how organizations created to give blacks power, government programs to help blacks, and having the most powerful individual in the United States be black gives blacks power?

a single individual having power when he happens to be black does not give blacks power

how does affirmative action give them power? it's an equalizer.

Yeah, the black guy with power that was supported by nearly all blacks and advocated helping more blacks had nothing to give to blacks.

If they work hard they have an advantage, if they do nothing, it equalizes them. So technically, you are right.

Quote from: Kakashi597 on June 17, 2017, 12:44:58 PM

yeah if someone could give me a better answer than "yeah they can" that'd be great

I'm not sure what you expect us to say. Blacks are a race, thus they can be just as susceptible to racism as any other white person can. It really doesn't warrant more of an explanation than that.

i'm expecting someone to illustrate where the opposite mindset comes from and effectively argue why it is flawed. social issues like this are never as cut-and-dry as both sides seem to believe.

that whole "prejudice plus power" shit gets a laugh out of me every time

"only you can do wrong, not me! i'm innocent!"

i guess the sentiment is coming from their flawed understanding of racism

that
racism = prejudice + power

blacks believe they have no/little power and are therefore incapable of being racist

but my contention is that there should be no connotational difference between racism and prejudice, they should be used interchangably, and you should be censured for being either

That's retarded.

Racial persecution is prejudice + power + action.

Racism is any thing from the vocalization of to action based on prejudice.

Oh, and to have power over someone you don't need to be white.
Something as simple as a knife in your hands can be all the power you need.

Most racist people on the planet

Sounds like some Sapphire bullshit to me.

The first time I heard about this was from Jaythenerdkid, ironically when the most powerful person in America was black.

Now I see it on twitter all the time and it seems like a lazy way to undercut any racist comments made by minorities.

a single individual having power when he happens to be black does not give blacks power

Saying that an entire race "doesn't have power" would imply that there are institutions in place which try to keep minorities impoverished when literally the opposite is the case. Everybody has the same potential to gain power, regardless of race. Acting like whites hold all the power because there are more white politicians and judges in majority white countries is just mindless. "Disadvantaged" would be a much more apt description.