Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on November 13, 2015, 11:11:03 PMQuote from: Batch on November 13, 2015, 11:01:42 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on November 13, 2015, 10:51:14 PMQuote from: Batch on November 13, 2015, 10:47:53 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on November 13, 2015, 10:46:00 PMQuote from: Batch on November 13, 2015, 10:41:41 PMWhat solution is there to this? There is nothing peaceful........to be honest we just have to start killing anyone related to Isis....but then what do we become.What can be done with this? It's a noxious weed that won't do away for a long time.You become the killers of ignorant, out of control murderers. Simple, really.You either do nothing and put up with massacres as the extremism runs its course, or you treat it like an illness and try to cure it prematurely.Cutting out the cancer by killing thousands of would-be terrorists who just want to kill and die.....it still sounds....like murder, I know it will come to this and it's for the greater good of peace. But man, why does this happen? We were doing well for a while.If they want to die for a cause it isn't murder, it's granting a request. When were we doing good? ISIS never stopped existing, conflict never ended in this world of ours, you might've heard less of it but it sure never ended. Last I checked Sudan is still fighting.Alright, next unpopular opinion. How do you feel about nuking the Middle East? Obviously a no no. But what would be the consequences to you in taking out a large section of this organisation.I know nukes aren't the answer nowadays, so maybe coordinated strike raids across the middle east, something along this line, basically if we don't take action now, more innocent will die.Well, duh. Nukes aren't something you throw on the table, especially not into the middle east with it being a geopolitical mess. The real unpopular but most realistic option is an armed coalition against ISIS to take care of them. Then you're left with having to rebuild those regions in the Middle East they screwed up, to at which point I feel you might as well make them colonies/states/puppets, because they won't function on their own for a long time, if ever. It doesn't matter what option you end up taking, innocents are going to die anyway. I really don't know enough about this stuff, the whole situation is too fucked for anyone other than a trained committee to make sense of.What regions? Isis has basic holdings in northern Iraq and is competing with the Kurds for the relatively uninhabited parts of Syria.
Quote from: Batch on November 13, 2015, 11:01:42 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on November 13, 2015, 10:51:14 PMQuote from: Batch on November 13, 2015, 10:47:53 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on November 13, 2015, 10:46:00 PMQuote from: Batch on November 13, 2015, 10:41:41 PMWhat solution is there to this? There is nothing peaceful........to be honest we just have to start killing anyone related to Isis....but then what do we become.What can be done with this? It's a noxious weed that won't do away for a long time.You become the killers of ignorant, out of control murderers. Simple, really.You either do nothing and put up with massacres as the extremism runs its course, or you treat it like an illness and try to cure it prematurely.Cutting out the cancer by killing thousands of would-be terrorists who just want to kill and die.....it still sounds....like murder, I know it will come to this and it's for the greater good of peace. But man, why does this happen? We were doing well for a while.If they want to die for a cause it isn't murder, it's granting a request. When were we doing good? ISIS never stopped existing, conflict never ended in this world of ours, you might've heard less of it but it sure never ended. Last I checked Sudan is still fighting.Alright, next unpopular opinion. How do you feel about nuking the Middle East? Obviously a no no. But what would be the consequences to you in taking out a large section of this organisation.I know nukes aren't the answer nowadays, so maybe coordinated strike raids across the middle east, something along this line, basically if we don't take action now, more innocent will die.Well, duh. Nukes aren't something you throw on the table, especially not into the middle east with it being a geopolitical mess. The real unpopular but most realistic option is an armed coalition against ISIS to take care of them. Then you're left with having to rebuild those regions in the Middle East they screwed up, to at which point I feel you might as well make them colonies/states/puppets, because they won't function on their own for a long time, if ever. It doesn't matter what option you end up taking, innocents are going to die anyway. I really don't know enough about this stuff, the whole situation is too fucked for anyone other than a trained committee to make sense of.
Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on November 13, 2015, 10:51:14 PMQuote from: Batch on November 13, 2015, 10:47:53 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on November 13, 2015, 10:46:00 PMQuote from: Batch on November 13, 2015, 10:41:41 PMWhat solution is there to this? There is nothing peaceful........to be honest we just have to start killing anyone related to Isis....but then what do we become.What can be done with this? It's a noxious weed that won't do away for a long time.You become the killers of ignorant, out of control murderers. Simple, really.You either do nothing and put up with massacres as the extremism runs its course, or you treat it like an illness and try to cure it prematurely.Cutting out the cancer by killing thousands of would-be terrorists who just want to kill and die.....it still sounds....like murder, I know it will come to this and it's for the greater good of peace. But man, why does this happen? We were doing well for a while.If they want to die for a cause it isn't murder, it's granting a request. When were we doing good? ISIS never stopped existing, conflict never ended in this world of ours, you might've heard less of it but it sure never ended. Last I checked Sudan is still fighting.Alright, next unpopular opinion. How do you feel about nuking the Middle East? Obviously a no no. But what would be the consequences to you in taking out a large section of this organisation.I know nukes aren't the answer nowadays, so maybe coordinated strike raids across the middle east, something along this line, basically if we don't take action now, more innocent will die.
Quote from: Batch on November 13, 2015, 10:47:53 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on November 13, 2015, 10:46:00 PMQuote from: Batch on November 13, 2015, 10:41:41 PMWhat solution is there to this? There is nothing peaceful........to be honest we just have to start killing anyone related to Isis....but then what do we become.What can be done with this? It's a noxious weed that won't do away for a long time.You become the killers of ignorant, out of control murderers. Simple, really.You either do nothing and put up with massacres as the extremism runs its course, or you treat it like an illness and try to cure it prematurely.Cutting out the cancer by killing thousands of would-be terrorists who just want to kill and die.....it still sounds....like murder, I know it will come to this and it's for the greater good of peace. But man, why does this happen? We were doing well for a while.If they want to die for a cause it isn't murder, it's granting a request. When were we doing good? ISIS never stopped existing, conflict never ended in this world of ours, you might've heard less of it but it sure never ended. Last I checked Sudan is still fighting.
Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on November 13, 2015, 10:46:00 PMQuote from: Batch on November 13, 2015, 10:41:41 PMWhat solution is there to this? There is nothing peaceful........to be honest we just have to start killing anyone related to Isis....but then what do we become.What can be done with this? It's a noxious weed that won't do away for a long time.You become the killers of ignorant, out of control murderers. Simple, really.You either do nothing and put up with massacres as the extremism runs its course, or you treat it like an illness and try to cure it prematurely.Cutting out the cancer by killing thousands of would-be terrorists who just want to kill and die.....it still sounds....like murder, I know it will come to this and it's for the greater good of peace. But man, why does this happen? We were doing well for a while.
Quote from: Batch on November 13, 2015, 10:41:41 PMWhat solution is there to this? There is nothing peaceful........to be honest we just have to start killing anyone related to Isis....but then what do we become.What can be done with this? It's a noxious weed that won't do away for a long time.You become the killers of ignorant, out of control murderers. Simple, really.You either do nothing and put up with massacres as the extremism runs its course, or you treat it like an illness and try to cure it prematurely.
What solution is there to this? There is nothing peaceful........to be honest we just have to start killing anyone related to Isis....but then what do we become.What can be done with this? It's a noxious weed that won't do away for a long time.
Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on November 13, 2015, 11:11:03 PMQuote from: Batch on November 13, 2015, 11:01:42 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on November 13, 2015, 10:51:14 PMQuote from: Batch on November 13, 2015, 10:47:53 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on November 13, 2015, 10:46:00 PMQuote from: Batch on November 13, 2015, 10:41:41 PMWhat solution is there to this? There is nothing peaceful........to be honest we just have to start killing anyone related to Isis....but then what do we become.What can be done with this? It's a noxious weed that won't do away for a long time.You become the killers of ignorant, out of control murderers. Simple, really.You either do nothing and put up with massacres as the extremism runs its course, or you treat it like an illness and try to cure it prematurely.Cutting out the cancer by killing thousands of would-be terrorists who just want to kill and die.....it still sounds....like murder, I know it will come to this and it's for the greater good of peace. But man, why does this happen? We were doing well for a while.If they want to die for a cause it isn't murder, it's granting a request. When were we doing good? ISIS never stopped existing, conflict never ended in this world of ours, you might've heard less of it but it sure never ended. Last I checked Sudan is still fighting.Alright, next unpopular opinion. How do you feel about nuking the Middle East? Obviously a no no. But what would be the consequences to you in taking out a large section of this organisation.I know nukes aren't the answer nowadays, so maybe coordinated strike raids across the middle east, something along this line, basically if we don't take action now, more innocent will die.Well, duh. Nukes aren't something you throw on the table, especially not into the middle east with it being a geopolitical mess. The real unpopular but most realistic option is an armed coalition against ISIS to take care of them. Then you're left with having to rebuild those regions in the Middle East they screwed up, to at which point I feel you might as well make them colonies/states/puppets, because they won't function on their own for a long time, if ever. It doesn't matter what option you end up taking, innocents are going to die anyway. I really don't know enough about this stuff, the whole situation is too fucked for anyone other than a trained committee to make sense of.I think, it would take people like us to make these decisions, politicians want to satisfy everyone a lot want to claim peaceful solutions, but now is the standpoint, we need to get people out of the middle east, those who want to live peacefully.....somehow, we need to weed out those of truth and those of injustice, then....as ironic as it sounds, kill the rest.It'll leave a dark stain upon the world, but the major threat would be dead, just need to deal with the festering embers that are left....fuck this is starting to sound like a crusade. But there is now way anyone will come out of this 'clean'
Like, I'm a dumbass so my views on the world aren't all that great...but what the hell do we do?We can only defend and wait in fear for so long, a full scale assault will follow this I tell you.
This legitimately makes me angry, makes my blood boil. If I ever get the chance to fucking kill a Muslim piece of shit, I'll take joy in it
Quote from: Batch on November 13, 2015, 11:36:38 PMLike, I'm a dumbass so my views on the world aren't all that great...but what the hell do we do?We can only defend and wait in fear for so long, a full scale assault will follow this I tell you.Do you think there's somebody on this forum that isn't a dumbass?This pretty much was a full scale assault. They weren't holding for ransoms or spreading a message.
Well this is just a morbid thing. I wonder if ISIS will take responsibility, even if they probably didn't do it.
Quote from: Luciana on November 13, 2015, 11:50:03 PMWell this is just a morbid thing. I wonder if ISIS will take responsibility, even if they probably didn't do it.Read the thread, they already have.
Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on November 13, 2015, 11:38:37 PMQuote from: Batch on November 13, 2015, 11:36:38 PMLike, I'm a dumbass so my views on the world aren't all that great...but what the hell do we do?We can only defend and wait in fear for so long, a full scale assault will follow this I tell you.Do you think there's somebody on this forum that isn't a dumbass?This pretty much was a full scale assault. They weren't holding for ransoms or spreading a message.No I mean us, the Western world, pull together and really fight this thing full on, extra soldiers, artillery, munitions ect ect.But in the Homefront as well, we need to stop letting anyone remotely associated with ISIS stay.....they need to go.
Quote from: Batch on November 13, 2015, 11:54:10 PMQuote from: Luciana on November 13, 2015, 11:50:03 PMWell this is just a morbid thing. I wonder if ISIS will take responsibility, even if they probably didn't do it.Read the thread, they already have.Read the thread. All I see is people spewing bigotry, hating on people for not getting angry (that's so retarded), and then just the occasional "cuck" which is honestly the most annoying part of this thread.Nowhere on the sites, or here, has anyone linked something claiming it to be ISIS.
Quote from: Luciana on November 13, 2015, 11:57:12 PMQuote from: Batch on November 13, 2015, 11:54:10 PMQuote from: Luciana on November 13, 2015, 11:50:03 PMWell this is just a morbid thing. I wonder if ISIS will take responsibility, even if they probably didn't do it.Read the thread, they already have.Read the thread. All I see is people spewing bigotry, hating on people for not getting angry (that's so retarded), and then just the occasional "cuck" which is honestly the most annoying part of this thread.Nowhere on the sites, or here, has anyone linked something claiming it to be ISIS.http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/619363/Islamic-State-ISIS-Twitter-Paris-attacksHere just for you, go look for their Twitter accounts if you wish. We know who it is. No random group would coordinate attacks like this, and sure spout it as bigotry. This is it, enough innocent people have died for nothing man, is it wrong to be sick of this shit?
If you can name me another group of radicals that would have the ability to cause that much damage, or would even think of putting themselves on the map like that because of their attack, then I'm all ears.
Quote from: Sandtrap on November 14, 2015, 12:02:28 AM90% chance that it is. Think about it. If you can name me another group of radicals that would have the ability to cause that much damage, or would even think of putting themselves on the map like that because of their attack, then I'm all ears.
90% chance that it is. Think about it. If you can name me another group of radicals that would have the ability to cause that much damage, or would even think of putting themselves on the map like that because of their attack, then I'm all ears.
Quote from: Batch on November 13, 2015, 11:53:36 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on November 13, 2015, 11:38:37 PMQuote from: Batch on November 13, 2015, 11:36:38 PMLike, I'm a dumbass so my views on the world aren't all that great...but what the hell do we do?We can only defend and wait in fear for so long, a full scale assault will follow this I tell you.Do you think there's somebody on this forum that isn't a dumbass?This pretty much was a full scale assault. They weren't holding for ransoms or spreading a message.No I mean us, the Western world, pull together and really fight this thing full on, extra soldiers, artillery, munitions ect ect.But in the Homefront as well, we need to stop letting anyone remotely associated with ISIS stay.....they need to go.That doesn't work. First of all, unity would never happen.Second, it'd just be the same guerrilla warfare we've seen in Iraq and Afghanistan. War in the 21st century is no longer conventional and you'll never see people directly go head to head anymore. It'd be a grinding, grueling process which would take decades for anything to happen. Nothing would happen though. There would be no "victory". It'd be more of an "Are we better off now than then?" kind of routine.US made the mistake when invading Vietnam, Russia with Afghanistan, and US with Iraq again. If you want to take them out, you better have a plan to put in a government too, and the US is about as effective in nation building as I am at DOTA.SpoilerI hate MOBA's
Plus, why do we need a government over there? Tell me the reasons so I can agree/disagree, silly request but this is how we learn.
Quote from: Luciana on November 14, 2015, 12:00:18 AMQuote from: Batch on November 13, 2015, 11:53:36 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on November 13, 2015, 11:38:37 PMQuote from: Batch on November 13, 2015, 11:36:38 PMLike, I'm a dumbass so my views on the world aren't all that great...but what the hell do we do?We can only defend and wait in fear for so long, a full scale assault will follow this I tell you.Do you think there's somebody on this forum that isn't a dumbass?This pretty much was a full scale assault. They weren't holding for ransoms or spreading a message.No I mean us, the Western world, pull together and really fight this thing full on, extra soldiers, artillery, munitions ect ect.But in the Homefront as well, we need to stop letting anyone remotely associated with ISIS stay.....they need to go.That doesn't work. First of all, unity would never happen.Second, it'd just be the same guerrilla warfare we've seen in Iraq and Afghanistan. War in the 21st century is no longer conventional and you'll never see people directly go head to head anymore. It'd be a grinding, grueling process which would take decades for anything to happen. Nothing would happen though. There would be no "victory". It'd be more of an "Are we better off now than then?" kind of routine.US made the mistake when invading Vietnam, Russia with Afghanistan, and US with Iraq again. If you want to take them out, you better have a plan to put in a government too, and the US is about as effective in nation building as I am at DOTA.SpoilerI hate MOBA'sI believe any more of this senseless killing will turn to unity yes. But I said this before, I'm no official, I'm just a man with an opinion, even if it really isn't correct.Plus, why do we need a government over there? Tell me the reasons so I can agree/disagree, silly request but this is how we learn.
Worst terrorist attack on western soil since 9/11 I believe.
BREAKING NEWS: Terrorist Attack at France v Germany Friendly (Approx. 160 Dead)
