Best of Rap

Desty · November 05, 2018, 04:40:48 PM

Post essential rap. When I mention Tyler I mean everyone associated and when I say Yung Lean I mean everyone associated there too. That means Bladee, Ecco2k, Frank Ocean, Earl Sweatshirt are included. I won't post Denzel and Xavier Wulf 'cause they're already in RVIDXR KLVN. With X people like Ski mask are included.

MF DOOM
RVIDXR KLVN
Tyler The Creator
ASAP gang
XXXTENTACION
Yung Lean
Bones
Kendrick Lamar

Elai · November 05, 2018, 04:56:38 PM

Eminem, Biggie, Nas, Tupac, Kendrick Lamar, N.W.A., Snoop Dogg, Scarface, MF DOOM, Outkast, Ice Cube, Prodigy, Rakim, Jay-Z, Lil Wayne, Dr. Dre.

Desty · November 06, 2018, 03:19:22 AM

Well since Eli fucked with my style I guess I'll just mention all the rappers I didn't mention and also add to the list

Denzel Curry
Ski Mask The Slump God
Earl Sweatshirt
A$AP Rocky
Freddie Gibbs
Stefan Burnett (Death Grips)

Elai · November 06, 2018, 12:56:38 PM

You asked for "essential rap." What I posted is a pretty extensive list of potential GOATs.

Also Drake is hot garbage and needs to be dropped by everyone.

Verbatim · November 06, 2018, 01:45:15 PM

Quote from: Desty on November 06, 2018, 03:19:22 AM

Drake

OH NO NO NO NO

Mordo · November 06, 2018, 01:58:59 PM

Besides the essential artists that have already been mentioned?

A Tribe Called Quest
Brockhampton
Dr Octagon/Kool Keith
JPEGMAFIA (more glitch hop than anything but he's a sick lyricist)
Madlib
Run The Jewels (Didn't think RTJ 3 was that fire but RTJ 1/2 era is shit hot)
Kanye West (say what you want about the guy's personal life but 2018 has been his year and Life of Pablo/MBDTF are classic hip hop records)
Pusha T (another artist who absolutely owned 2018)
Wu Tang Clan

I would also give Danny Brown an honourable mention for his impact on the genre but I simply cannot tolerate his vocals for the life of me.

Verbatim · November 06, 2018, 02:03:03 PM

gonna go ahead and throw danny brown's name on the table

Elai · November 06, 2018, 02:29:20 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 06, 2018, 02:03:03 PM

gonna go ahead and throw danny brown's name on the table

i also think brown is one of the best (if not, the best) right now, but i don't think he belongs in a conversation about "essential rap." his stuff is still pretty experimental and off-the-wall. i don't particularly like jay-z or dr. dre, but they have had a huge influence on hip hop which is why i listed them.

Elai · November 06, 2018, 02:33:29 PM

the most important factors for determining GOAT potential:

- body of work (consistency, creativity, innovation, etc.)
- critical acclaim
- sales
- impact on culture
- longevity

artists who hit all 5 are in the discussion for GOAT, but artists that hit at least 4 are worth mentioning when it comes to essential rap, imo

Jono · November 06, 2018, 02:34:36 PM

50 Cent's debut album is still the best rap album ever

Desty · November 07, 2018, 08:42:12 AM

Quote from: Eli on November 06, 2018, 12:56:38 PM

Also Drake is hot garbage and needs to be dropped by everyone.

Quote from: Verbatim on November 06, 2018, 01:45:15 PM

Quote from: Desty on November 06, 2018, 03:19:22 AM
Drake
OH NO NO NO NO

What's wrong with Drake? I haven't heard more than 5 of his songs but I added him as a last minute call 'cause I had to go

Desty · November 07, 2018, 08:45:18 AM

Y'know what? I'll remove Drake 'cause he belongs to the same class as Lil Uzi Vert and I like Lil Uzi Vert whereas I don't have an opinion on Drake. They may be fun to listen to and stuff but they're not really that talented

Desty · November 07, 2018, 08:53:32 AM

Quote from: Eli on November 05, 2018, 04:56:38 PM

Eminem, Biggie, Nas, Tupac, Kendrick Lamar, N.W.A., Snoop Dogg, Scarface, MF DOOM, Outkast, Ice Cube, Prodigy, Rakim, Jay-Z, Lil Wayne, Dr. Dre.

I already posted MF Doom. It was the first name I dropped in the OP

Desty · November 07, 2018, 08:54:36 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 06, 2018, 02:03:03 PM

gonna go ahead and throw danny brown's name on the table

Thanks, hadn't heard of him before. I like Ain't It Funny, When It Rain, "Jealousy"

okay I'm gonna stop posting the songs I like 'cause 3/6 so far ain't bad at all. Would be bad if I just liked them but I really like these songs

Elai · November 07, 2018, 10:15:26 AM

Quote from: Desty on November 07, 2018, 08:42:12 AM

Quote from: Eli on November 06, 2018, 12:56:38 PM
Also Drake is hot garbage and needs to be dropped by everyone.
Quote from: Verbatim on November 06, 2018, 01:45:15 PM
Quote from: Desty on November 06, 2018, 03:19:22 AM
Drake
OH NO NO NO NO
What's wrong with Drake? I haven't heard more than 5 of his songs but I added him as a last minute call 'cause I had to go

beyond the fact that he has a team of fulltime ghost writers and producers, his music is entirely one dimensional.

Elai · November 07, 2018, 10:16:09 AM

Quote from: Desty on November 07, 2018, 08:53:32 AM

Quote from: Eli on November 05, 2018, 04:56:38 PM
Eminem, Biggie, Nas, Tupac, Kendrick Lamar, N.W.A., Snoop Dogg, Scarface, MF DOOM, Outkast, Ice Cube, Prodigy, Rakim, Jay-Z, Lil Wayne, Dr. Dre.
I already posted MF Doom. It was the first name I dropped in the OP

i just said it to round off what i consider to be essential.

DAS B00T x2 · November 07, 2018, 01:55:31 PM

fred durst is the goat yo

Dietrich Six · November 07, 2018, 05:13:49 PM

Quote from: Eli on November 06, 2018, 02:33:29 PM

the most important factors for determining GOAT potential:

- body of work (consistency, creativity, innovation, etc.)
- critical acclaim
- sales
- impact on culture
- longevity

artists who hit all 5 are in the discussion for GOAT, but artists that hit at least 4 are worth mentioning when it comes to essential rap, imo

So Wayne

Desty · November 07, 2018, 05:16:32 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 07, 2018, 01:55:31 PM

fred durst is the goat yo

I'M A CRACK ADDICT

Desty · November 07, 2018, 05:17:35 PM

Quote from: Dietrich Six on November 07, 2018, 05:13:49 PM

Quote from: Eli on November 06, 2018, 02:33:29 PM
the most important factors for determining GOAT potential:

- body of work (consistency, creativity, innovation, etc.)
- critical acclaim
- sales
- impact on culture
- longevity

artists who hit all 5 are in the discussion for GOAT, but artists that hit at least 4 are worth mentioning when it comes to essential rap, imo

So Wayne

That's his motivation for posting his essential rap. You don't have to follow it

Verbatim · November 07, 2018, 05:22:15 PM

fuck lil wayne

Desty · November 07, 2018, 05:23:05 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 07, 2018, 05:22:15 PM

fuck lil wayne

fuck lil Jakey

Elai · November 07, 2018, 05:23:12 PM

Quote from: Dietrich Six on November 07, 2018, 05:13:49 PM

Quote from: Eli on November 06, 2018, 02:33:29 PM
the most important factors for determining GOAT potential:

- body of work (consistency, creativity, innovation, etc.)
- critical acclaim
- sales
- impact on culture
- longevity

artists who hit all 5 are in the discussion for GOAT, but artists that hit at least 4 are worth mentioning when it comes to essential rap, imo

So Wayne

wayne's in that conversation, imo

he's not my goat though

Dietrich Six · November 07, 2018, 05:37:35 PM

Strictly off influence you gotta give it to Wayne, birdman, Drake, and Nikki. They may not be your favorite but they've definitely changed rap as we know it.

Personally I think Kendrick Lamar, Wu Tang, maybe even Wayne should be in most people's top 10.

Czarface and MF Doom are the two I find myself listening to the most recently.

Verbatim · November 07, 2018, 05:41:04 PM

i haven't listened to enough wu tang, but i have liquid swords in my 1995 queue

Dietrich Six · November 07, 2018, 05:50:11 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 07, 2018, 05:41:04 PM

i haven't listened to enough wu tang, but i have liquid swords in my 1995 queue

Favorite rap group of all time, a lot of their solo stuff is great too.

Elai · November 07, 2018, 05:59:21 PM

Quote from: Dietrich Six on November 07, 2018, 05:37:35 PM

Strictly off influence you gotta give it to Wayne, birdman, Drake, and Nikki. They may not be your favorite but they've definitely changed rap as we know it.

drake has changed rap for the worse, so the only thing i'm giving to him is blame.

nikki and wayne are cool in my books even if i don't really vibe with their stuff. wayne has more influence than the other 2 combined.

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Personally I think Kendrick Lamar, Wu Tang, maybe even Wayne should be in most people's top 10.

I agree. There are about 15 rappers that need to be considered for top 10, including wayne, lamar and wu tang.

Dietrich Six · November 07, 2018, 07:03:46 PM

Yeah but, hotline bling.

Elai · November 07, 2018, 07:43:20 PM

drake has no good albums, only singles. and he only has that because he uses OVO as his own "hit" generating machine, raking in all the money AND fame while leaving his signees out to dry. his discography is as vapid and A.D.D. as the generation he panders to. nothing he's ever done has been profound, creative or original. his songs are all about his money, his success, or his emotional self-pity. occasionally he'll get his mission control ass team of ghostwriters to make a diss song when the time calls for it.

he's also a deadbeat father, fake-ass rich kid pretending to be thug, and a reading-lyrics-from-his-blackberry-during-a-freestyle looney-toon ass motherfucker.

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