what's the best swans album

i've only dabbled and i want to delve

hm, that's a really loaded question

you could try following this chart

or you could start with To Be Kind, which is my personal favorite

just beware—swans requires a lot of patience to get into, and you gotta be in the right mood

have fun

well i was asking more for your opinion on where to start, which you gave anyway

thanks

a little bit of context:

to be kind is actually the third in a series of four albums released after michael gira broke up the band in the late 90s, their final album being called Soundtracks for the Blind, which is a pretty great album and a fan-favorite (even if jim thinks it's their worst record)

when they got back together, their comeback album was called My Father Will Guide Me Up a Rope to the Sky, which was a dark folk oeuvre which happens to contain my favorite Swans song: "You Fucking People Make Me Sick," which pretty much sums up everything i feel about humanity in one beautifully disturbing song

the second album is called the Seer

the third is To Be Kind, my favorite all-around swans record

the fourth and latest is called The Glowing Man, which is also very good, and not located on that chart because it just came out less than two years ago

a little bit of context:

to be kind is actually the third in a series of four albums released after michael gira broke up the band in the late 90s, their final album being called Soundtracks for the Blind, which is a pretty great album and a fan-favorite (even if jim thinks it's their worst record)

when they got back together, their comeback album was called My Father Will Guide Me Up a Rope to the Sky, which was a dark folk oeuvre which happens to contain my favorite Swans song: "You Fucking People Make Me Sick," which pretty much sums up everything i feel about humanity in one beautifully disturbing song

the second album is called the Seer

the third is To Be Kind, my favorite all-around swans record

the fourth and latest is called The Glowing Man, which is also very good, and not located on that chart because it just came out less than two years ago

interesting

the only album i've listened to (not entirely, though) is white light from the mouth of infinity

i'm listening to the great annihilator, but if it's like white light, i'll probably listen to children of god next

ah, yes

i should try to make a similar chart for NIN

yo let me help you with that

Quote from: Verbatim on July 28, 2017, 06:23:41 PM

i should try to make a similar chart for NIN

yo let me help you with that

I found this already, bit outdated, but it's pretty good.

Quote from: Verbatim on July 28, 2017, 10:43:11 PM

Quote from: Prehistoric on July 28, 2017, 06:29:07 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on July 28, 2017, 06:23:41 PM

i should try to make a similar chart for NIN

yo let me help you with that

I found this already, bit outdated, but it's pretty good.

Can't read any of that.

right click -> open in new tab

Quote from: Verbatim on July 28, 2017, 10:44:49 PM

Quote from: Prehistoric on July 28, 2017, 10:43:48 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on July 28, 2017, 10:43:11 PM

Quote from: Prehistoric on July 28, 2017, 06:29:07 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on July 28, 2017, 06:23:41 PM

i should try to make a similar chart for NIN

yo let me help you with that

I found this already, bit outdated, but it's pretty good.

Can't read any of that.

right click -> open in new tab

this is the size of the image on my screen at regular zoom

what the fuck

try this

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Quote from: Verbatim on July 28, 2017, 10:49:58 PM

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there we go

interesting that they'd start with the downward spiral, but i guess it's as good a place as any. the fragile was a bad place for me to start, i think.

i thought you started with PHM

Quote from: Prehistoric on July 28, 2017, 10:51:47 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on July 28, 2017, 10:49:58 PM

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there we go

interesting that they'd start with the downward spiral, but i guess it's as good a place as any. the fragile was a bad place for me to start, i think.

i thought you started with PHM

No, I started to like NIN after PHM. The Fragile was the first NIN record I listened to, and it was right after the instrumental version was uploaded to YouTube. You actually made a thread about it, I don't know if you remember.

Anyways, after listening to that, I bought the regular version on CD. I thought it was cool but it didn't grip me like PHM did. Obviously my taste has evolved a bit since then, but yeah.

Quote from: Prehistoric on July 28, 2017, 10:54:52 PM

No, I started to like NIN after PHM. The Fragile was the first NIN record I listened to, and it was right after the instrumental version was uploaded to YouTube. You actually made a thread about it, I don't know if you remember.

Anyways, after listening to that, I bought the regular version on CD. I thought it was cool but it didn't grip me like PHM did. Obviously my taste has evolved a bit since then, but yeah.

oh yeah, i remember now

well, according to the dude who made that chart, PHM was a logical progression from the fragile anyway

i think if i were to make my own chart, i'd have two or three starting points—PHM, TDS, and something else

Yeah, that's a bit weird. PHM is unlike the rest of his stuff, it's much more commercial. I don't see any similarities between it and The Fragile.

Anyways, I'd probably go with With Teeth as my starting point.