Quote from: Eliab on February 29, 2016, 07:39:42 PMPremarital sex is disgusting and dangerous.Marital sex is tolerable given you take the proper precautions.Kek. I remember when I used to think I was better than other people for not having sex too.
Premarital sex is disgusting and dangerous.Marital sex is tolerable given you take the proper precautions.
No matter how many living cheese puffs you come inside.
Quote from: Jive Turkey on February 29, 2016, 07:46:15 PM15 to my first girlfriend Bitch broke my heart smhNow she's obsessed with me cause I'm sexy and I just blow her off
15 to my first girlfriend Bitch broke my heart smh
Quote from: Black Ass Spiderman on February 29, 2016, 07:59:15 PMOut of curiosity, did my answer satisfy you?
Quote from: Jive Turkey on February 29, 2016, 07:53:35 PMQuote from: Jive Turkey on February 29, 2016, 07:46:15 PM15 to my first girlfriend Bitch broke my heart smhNow she's obsessed with me cause I'm sexy and I just blow her offYou sucked her dick?
But why is premarital sex bad?
Surely there are other ways of showing your dedication to your partner.
Some people just don't see waiting as a necessary gesture to show love so why would they be wrong
The intamacy involved with losing your virginity strengthens the relationship. There's more incentive to devote yourself to your "first," due to emotional attatchment and comfortability. There's also something to be said about controlling one's sexual urges past their adolescence (assuming you get married mid-to-late twenties.)And this is all without mentioning the religious imperative, but I sense that would garner a less welcoming response.
Actually, a better reason would be for the safety net it provides for your family, should you ever happen to have a child (adopted, or by other decidedly unscrupulous means).
If you choose to have sex, and the one you're emotionally committed to is staunchly against abortion AND adoption, you have a responsibility to do everything in your power to make the child's life as good as it can get, if you have one with her (at least, if you're not strong enough to do the best thing and break up with her).Legally married couples will have an easier time managing their shit because of the tax breaks, so that's really the only reason to get married. It makes raising a kid a little bit easier for you.
The reasons you gave can be accomplished without marriage, and aren't exactly reasons at all, to be honest.
Notice how my only reason to get married basically requires you to be a piece of shit human being.
So I mean, I don't see a great reason to be acting pious about who you have sex with, and under what conditions.
It's all terrible, and no--nothing is really all that more or less terrible than anything else. It's just all equally terrible.
How does waiting until marriage to have sex provide a safety net for a family that premarital sex wouldn't provide?
Are these reasons to get married, or reasons to avoid premarital sex? I feel as though one of us is confused.
The goal is to fight promiscuity, something I assumed you would be on-board for.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage#Taxation
Reasons to get married, and I thought I that was made abundantly clear.
All sex is retarded and pointless.All sex is retarded and pointless.Promiscuity is disgusting, but there is nothing morally wrong with it. It's just gross, and that's all you're saying.
Are those who engage in premarital sex somehow exempt from the tax breaks marriage provides, once actually married? I think not.
It appears you were the one who was confused. Inglourious's question was asking why I think people should wait for marriage to have sex -- not why we should get married.
But atheistically, the only reason would be tax benefit.
Great. So what's the problem?
atheistically, the only reason would be tax benefit.
Who cares?
They're one in the same reason. The only reason to get married is if you plan to have a family. Period.
Your previous inability to concede that, but you've conceded that now.
Uh, me? Because that's what the topic is focused on?
Only for people like us. Not for everyone else.
State your argument clearly so I know what you're getting at.
Quote from: Eliab on February 29, 2016, 11:19:50 PMState your argument clearly so I know what you're getting at.I mean, that's what I've been doing--I've been trying not to insult your intelligence, but if you want me to do that, I certainly can.
No it isn't. It's about marital tax exemptions. Not... exemptions from tax exemptions, whatever the fuck it was you were even trying to say.
No, it applies to everyone. Logic is unbending--it doesn't change according to who you are or what you believe.
I find it quite interesting that the moment Prehistoric starts to diagaree with you to a greater extent, you start acting like a jerk towards him.You're an ass, Verb.
Quote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 29, 2016, 11:26:44 PMI find it quite interesting that the moment Prehistoric starts to diagaree with you to a greater extent, you start acting like a jerk towards him.You're an ass, Verb.my inability to reconcile with the idea of God.
What do you mean? I know Verb is a hard line atheist, so I am assuming you mean that you are not entirely convinced of the non-existence of God.
He shouldn't be frustrated. You're not his protégé, and he's not your mentor. You make your own decisions, he doesn't have a say in the matter, and nor should he. He doesn't get to make you Verb Jr. and have you spout his bullshit if you don't want to.