Anyone else think that the F-35 might be a front for another project?

Chakas · October 09, 2015, 04:31:56 PM

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T4R. The F-35 program appears to be a phenomenal clusterfuck. It seems to be a massive mess of a dysfuntional plane that only exists because of corruption, greed, and the investments already put into it. One thing I'm hoping is the case is that the F-35 is just a front and much of the money going towards the F-35 program is being directed to another better top secret project. I see no evidence for this theory and I am genuinely worried that this might not be the case. If it's not, then that means that the U.S. military is even more incapable of properly handling money than perviously thought. The implications that arise if what is being said is true are massive. It would make me ashamed of the U.S. military. I guess there's no way to know for sure unless one of you can provide evidence for either scenario. If the money is going to another military project, I doubt we'll ever see it declassified within the next 20 years. What do you think?

Jono · October 09, 2015, 04:34:22 PM

The F-15 is still better than this overpriced hunk of junk

MyNameIsCharlie · October 09, 2015, 04:35:04 PM

I don't think it is. I have worked with several of the companies on that project. I think it really is that fucked up.

Chakas · October 09, 2015, 04:37:02 PM

Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on October 09, 2015, 04:35:04 PM

I don't think it is. I have worked with several of the companies on that project. I think it really is that fucked up.

This is what I'm really hoping isn't the case.

Chakas · October 09, 2015, 04:39:56 PM

Quote from: Jono on October 09, 2015, 04:34:22 PM

The F-15 is still better than this overpriced hunk of junk

There are plenty of planes that are better, but many of them are aging and becoming more and more obsolete. That being said, my favorite jets are the F-16, F/A-18 SuperHornet, and A-10. All three of despicably sexy planes.

MyNameIsCharlie · October 09, 2015, 04:42:06 PM

Quote from: Chakas on October 09, 2015, 04:37:02 PM

Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on October 09, 2015, 04:35:04 PM
I don't think it is. I have worked with several of the companies on that project. I think it really is that fucked up.
This is what I'm really hoping isn't the case.

No, it's a goat fuck. Half of the time there are components that have to be reengineered to work together.

If this is a cover, they're involving everybody in it

Chakas · October 09, 2015, 04:46:50 PM

Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on October 09, 2015, 04:42:06 PM

Quote from: Chakas on October 09, 2015, 04:37:02 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on October 09, 2015, 04:35:04 PM
I don't think it is. I have worked with several of the companies on that project. I think it really is that fucked up.
This is what I'm really hoping isn't the case.

No, it's a goat fuck. Half of the time there are components that have to be reengineered to work together.

If this is a cover, they're involving everybody in it

I sincerely hope it is. The U.S. military is pretty good at misplacing money, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was revealed that much of the money going into the F-35 dissapeared. If this is the case, I would hope it would have gone to another military project that is being kept off books or something like that and not to some greedy politicians. Or maybe they have some sort of revolutionary technological breakthrough that they are going to "discover" during the F-35's development. Something that would make things a lot cheaper would make the military its money back in the long run. Something that wouldn't make any sense being discovered in any other context, so that the military can hide how advanced it is bheind the cutains. I know it seems like a longshot, but its better than imagining we suck that bad at spending money.

October 09, 2015, 04:50:53 PM

Muh F-22's.

Chakas · October 09, 2015, 04:53:27 PM

Quote from: Vivi on October 09, 2015, 04:50:53 PM

Muh F-22's.

Discontinued, bruh

October 09, 2015, 04:54:42 PM

Quote from: Chakas on October 09, 2015, 04:53:27 PM

Quote from: Vivi on October 09, 2015, 04:50:53 PM
Muh F-22's.
Discontinued, bruh

The replacement wasn't entirely spectacular.

Deleted · October 09, 2015, 04:55:18 PM

Muh F-14s

Deleted · October 09, 2015, 04:57:47 PM

And it's such a shame cause the F-35 is such a badass concept of a jet

Chakas · October 09, 2015, 04:58:31 PM

Quote from: Chaos Metal Dragon on October 09, 2015, 04:55:18 PM

Muh F-14s

Those fatasses deserved to be retired.

Deleted · October 09, 2015, 05:00:27 PM

Quote from: Chakas on October 09, 2015, 04:58:31 PM

Quote from: Chaos Metal Dragon on October 09, 2015, 04:55:18 PM
Muh F-14s
Those fatasses deserved to be retired.

But muh swing wings

Chakas · October 09, 2015, 05:00:33 PM

Quote from: Chaos Metal Dragon on October 09, 2015, 04:57:47 PM

And it's such a shame cause the F-35 is such a badass concept of a jet

The design is a clusterfuck of inefficiency and underperformance. The concept of a single aircraft that can fulfill multiple roles and serve several branches of the military is what killed the F-35. In trying to do everything, it compromised and now it sucks at doing anything.

Chakas · October 09, 2015, 05:01:08 PM

Quote from: Chaos Metal Dragon on October 09, 2015, 05:00:27 PM

Quote from: Chakas on October 09, 2015, 04:58:31 PM
Quote from: Chaos Metal Dragon on October 09, 2015, 04:55:18 PM
Muh F-14s
Those fatasses deserved to be retired.

But muh swing wings

Swings swings cost bling bling.

Erives · October 09, 2015, 06:57:00 PM

Im a but out of the know with this can someone give me a run down of the F-35. I know it was built for bombing due to how the weapons bay is designed.

Mattie G Indahouse · October 09, 2015, 07:07:25 PM

Who needs education or run down neighborhoods fixed up when you can have a jet that's not going to get used instead.

Assassin 11D7 · October 09, 2015, 08:52:32 PM

Quote from: Erives on October 09, 2015, 06:57:00 PM

Im a but out of the know with this can someone give me a run down of the F-35. I know it was built for bombing due to how the weapons bay is designed.

They designed it as a multi-role/ joint-strike figher(basically they wanted a single aircraft that could do pretty much everything). Essentially, they couldn't pull it off, but really wanted to so they kept doing the American thing of throwing more money at it to fix it, and it still supposedly sucks flies like a brick, etc.

XSEAN · October 09, 2015, 09:03:06 PM

Canadian buying 75 of them. I hope we did not buy POS. They should of just bought Euro fighters or f16

Luis · October 09, 2015, 09:04:46 PM

Theyre expensive as fuck and have a bunch of problems with them. Lockheed should just stop trying to go over the top.

Erives · October 09, 2015, 09:12:11 PM

Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on October 09, 2015, 08:52:32 PM

Quote from: Erives on October 09, 2015, 06:57:00 PM
Im a but out of the know with this can someone give me a run down of the F-35. I know it was built for bombing due to how the weapons bay is designed.
They designed it as a multi-role/ joint-strike figher(basically they wanted a single aircraft that could do pretty much everything). Essentially, they couldn't pull it off, but really wanted to so they kept doing the American thing of throwing more money at it to fix it, and it still supposedly sucks flies like a brick, etc.

Ah the American way. Thank you.

Chakas · October 09, 2015, 09:20:19 PM

Quote from: Luis on October 09, 2015, 09:04:46 PM

Theyre expensive as fuck and have a bunch of problems with them. Lockheed should just stop trying to go over the top.

I don't think it's a problem with going over the top. If we stopped trying to go over the top, we'd stop advancing. I think it's a unique problem where they are just trying something new on a mass scale and are rushing and hyping it up to be as functional as if it is not the first of its kind and will function like it is several generations down the line of what the F-35 is trying to be. We weren't anticipating as many problems as we ran into and we just started throwing money at them in hopes that they will go away.

Luis · October 09, 2015, 09:23:52 PM

Quote from: Chakas on October 09, 2015, 09:20:19 PM

Quote from: Luis on October 09, 2015, 09:04:46 PM
Theyre expensive as fuck and have a bunch of problems with them. Lockheed should just stop trying to go over the top.
I don't think it's a problem with going over the top. If we stopped trying to go over the top, we'd stop advancing. I think it's a unique problem where they are just trying something new on a mass scale and are rushing and hyping it up to be as functional as if it is not the first of its kind and will function like it is several generations down the line of what the F-35 is trying to be. We weren't anticipating as many problems as we ran into and we just started throwing money at them in hopes that they will go away.

Even if it can take over the other roles, it'll still cost too much.