Another year down, another bottle of whiskey to lament over

Kernel Kraut · December 28, 2018, 11:25:01 AM

and I can't even post on Bungie.net about the glory days of bungie.old because I didn't by Desti-shit 2. How will they ever know the greatest story no one ever wanted to hear about a bowl of Cheerios? How will they ever find out about the emotional rollercoaster that was the banning of Souljaboy?

The current state of Bungie.net makes me sick. Zoomers playing their Borderlands MMO wannabe forgetting what made the site great. It wasn't Halo, it wasn't Bungie. It was the glorious Flood. A place to shit post and troll to your hearts content. But now it's all gone, never to be remembered by anyone but us bungie.old boomers. But not even the biggest sip will cease this pain.

Nevermore.

Verbatim · December 28, 2018, 11:44:26 AM

i've reached a point where i'm perfectly content with how things have played out, really, but maybe that's because i was never a bungie fan to begin with

always hated the halo franchise, and only joined the website on a sheer whim at the recommendation that i do so by a friend who used to browse the site, and as a result, i spent most of my early days trolling and taking the piss out of all the fanboys that used to pervade the flood, until i found private groups, and discovered that i could vent out my autistic frustrations with my life over there instead

the few friends i made, who were, for better or worse, the glue that kept me stuck the website, instantly migrated from the forums the moment the site updated during the rollout of the first destiny game, like any other sane person would, and spent the next year or so on IRC channels until some crazy obsessed people started making these weird offsites that were designed to replicate the look and feel of a website like bungie.old (which, honestly, if you really think about it, is a little bizarre)

point is, though, i never felt all that emotionally connected to bungie.net, so looking back on it brings back the same feelings i get from when i used to use dogpile instead of google--vague nostalgia, but an understanding that things are probably better off now, since, what the fuck was i even doing there in the first place

sep7agon getting as slow as it has been lately is much sadder to me, but i'll probably get over it too

challengerX · December 28, 2018, 12:02:12 PM

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maverick · December 28, 2018, 12:29:55 PM

I used to get pretty nostalgic, but it being nearly six years later now, I couldn’t care less. I regret wasting so much of my time as a teenager on that site.

Я люблю наркотики · December 28, 2018, 12:38:16 PM

It's nice to reminisce every once in awhile but it's getting harder and harder to care about what happened to B.net and The Flood as time moves on.

DAS B00T x2 · December 28, 2018, 02:13:38 PM

Sometimes I miss the old days... but then I remember one thing that makes me glad we're where we are today.
Coup was a mistake. It's nothing but trash.

December 28, 2018, 03:36:11 PM

Welcome back Kraut. This place is so negative and backwards but I like to stick around because people here know me better than most IRL people

Desty · December 28, 2018, 03:36:53 PM

Quote from: Carmen on December 28, 2018, 03:36:11 PM

Welcome back Kraut. This place is so negative and backwards but I like to stick around because people here know me better than most IRL people

That's sad, you deserve better.

Jono · December 28, 2018, 03:56:47 PM

Quote from: Carmen on December 28, 2018, 03:36:11 PM

Welcome back Kraut. This place is so negative and backwards but I like to stick around because people here know me better than most IRL people

Wtf I hate Sep7agon now

Kernel Kraut · December 28, 2018, 04:15:04 PM

Quote from: Carmen on December 28, 2018, 03:36:11 PM

Welcome back Kraut. This place is so negative and backwards but I like to stick around because people here know me better than most IRL people

That's pretty depressing fam.

Verbatim · December 28, 2018, 04:35:51 PM

reminder that there is absolutely no divide between "RL" and the internet

big dog · December 28, 2018, 04:41:10 PM

backwater

December 28, 2018, 05:46:53 PM

Quote from: Desty on December 28, 2018, 03:36:53 PM

Quote from: Carmen on December 28, 2018, 03:36:11 PM
Welcome back Kraut. This place is so negative and backwards but I like to stick around because people here know me better than most IRL people
That's sad, you deserve better.

Thanks, man. We haven't talked a lot but you've always seemed like a decent person. I'm just more guarded IRL and rarely talk about myself beyond what TV shows I like.

challengerX · December 28, 2018, 05:59:03 PM

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Verbatim · December 28, 2018, 09:30:42 PM

Quote from: challengerX on December 28, 2018, 05:59:03 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on December 28, 2018, 04:35:51 PM
reminder that there is absolutely no divide between "RL" and the internet
yes there is

obviously not

Verbatim · December 28, 2018, 10:17:54 PM

"people lie and troll each other on the internet, so you can't trust anyone"

yeah, unlike the real world where you can trust everyone

"the internet allows people to be anonymous so they can get away with saying fucked up shit"

in other words, the internet allows people to reveal to each other who they REALLY are—even if what you really are is a worthless troll—making it even less of a facade than the one created by physical social interaction, where we try to make ourselves look presentable to one another due to obligation, among other smokescreens, that basically serve to do nothing but obfuscate the seedy underbellies, or the true cores of our being

which is not to say that no one has ever been honest outside of the internet, just that there's no reason to trust or distrust anyone in particular based exclusively off the medium they're using to interact with you—if i just met you, whether it's on or off the internet, i have no reason to assume virtually anything about you—it's all the same shit

the internet isn't a special mask that people wear—it's a mask, but it's just another mask in a big collection that everyone has and uses, and nobody, on or offline, has ever really seen anyone's true face; indeed, some people can't even see their own (and maybe no one truly can, since we're constantly learning evolving as individuals)

either way, all of this takes place under the purview of the physical material world, so there is, literally, metaphysically, no reason to divide "the internet" with the "real world," because they are objectively one in the same, and the former cannot even exist without the latter—everything that happens in life is part of life, obviously

the only things that aren't part of our world are fictional or imaginative worlds, ones created in stories or dreams, and the internet is neither of those things

Mint · December 28, 2018, 10:40:48 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on December 28, 2018, 10:17:54 PM

"people lie and troll each other on the internet, so you can't trust anyone"

yeah, unlike the real world where you can trust everyone

"the internet allows people to be anonymous so they can get away with saying fucked up shit"

in other words, the internet allows people to reveal to each other who they REALLY are—even if what you really are is a worthless troll—making it even less of a facade than the one created by physical social interaction, where we try to make ourselves look presentable to one another due to obligation, among other smokescreens, that basically serve to do nothing but obfuscate the seedy underbellies, or the true cores of our being

either way, all of this takes place under the purview of the physical material world, so there is, literally, metaphysically, no reason to divide "the internet" with the "real world," because they are objectively one in the same, and the former cannot even exist without the latter—everything that happens in life is part of life, obviously

beezy

challengerX · December 28, 2018, 11:27:55 PM

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December 28, 2018, 11:29:15 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on December 28, 2018, 10:17:54 PM

"people lie and troll each other on the internet, so you can't trust anyone"

yeah, unlike the real world where you can trust everyone

"the internet allows people to be anonymous so they can get away with saying fucked up shit"

in other words, the internet allows people to reveal to each other who they REALLY are—even if what you really are is a worthless troll—making it even less of a facade than the one created by physical social interaction, where we try to make ourselves look presentable to one another due to obligation, among other smokescreens, that basically serve to do nothing but obfuscate the seedy underbellies, or the true cores of our being

which is not to say that no one has ever been honest outside of the internet, just that there's no reason to trust or distrust anyone in particular based exclusively off the medium they're using to interact with you—if i just met you, whether it's on or off the internet, i have no reason to assume virtually anything about you—it's all the same shit

the internet isn't a special mask that people wear—it's a mask, but it's just another mask in a big collection that everyone has and uses, and nobody, on or offline, has ever really seen anyone's true face; indeed, some people can't even see their own (and maybe no one truly can, since we're constantly learning evolving as individuals)

either way, all of this takes place under the purview of the physical material world, so there is, literally, metaphysically, no reason to divide "the internet" with the "real world," because they are objectively one in the same, and the former cannot even exist without the latter—everything that happens in life is part of life, obviously

the only things that aren't part of our world are fictional or imaginative worlds, ones created in stories or dreams, and the internet is neither of those things

how do you explain me then

this is my facebook profile picture, I'm not using any mask

Verbatim · December 28, 2018, 11:33:52 PM

Quote from: Carmen on December 28, 2018, 11:29:15 PM

how do you explain me then

this is my facebook profile picture, I'm not using any mask

a mask in and of itself

December 28, 2018, 11:35:15 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on December 28, 2018, 11:33:52 PM

Quote from: Carmen on December 28, 2018, 11:29:15 PM
how do you explain me then

this is my facebook profile picture, I'm not using any mask
a mask in and of itself

it's my real life face, please explain this line or else you're just trying to sound cool

Verbatim · December 28, 2018, 11:40:04 PM

Quote from: Carmen on December 28, 2018, 11:35:15 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on December 28, 2018, 11:33:52 PM
Quote from: Carmen on December 28, 2018, 11:29:15 PM
how do you explain me then

this is my facebook profile picture, I'm not using any mask
a mask in and of itself
it's my real life face, please explain this line or else you're just trying to sound cool

"this is me, this is my face, look how real i am, i'm being so real with you right now"

it's a mask used to create the perception that you are being real, whether you are or not

i, on the other side, cannot know for sure on a metaphysical (neither epistemic nor ontological) basis

some masks are more translucent than others, but they're still masks, and none are perfectly transparent

December 28, 2018, 11:43:40 PM

makes 0 sense

Verbatim · December 28, 2018, 11:51:16 PM

Quote from: challengerX on December 28, 2018, 11:27:55 PM

There is. Almost none of us here have ever met each other and haven’t forged the type of friendships you can have when meeting someone face to face.

i do not see a meaningful difference

whether i see a person physically or not, i'm getting exactly what i want out of a friendship with them through our interactions--when i hang out with my best friend at my house to play smash, the medium that's between us is the video game we're playing, or the movie we're watching, or sometimes it's just the air between us

the words we say to each other are chosen for each other, and because we're friends, we speak a certain language to each other--i see him, i see his clothes and hairstyle, the image of himself that he wants to project to the world and say "this is me" with, and to me it all just seems like a game, because the fact is, you're not your clothes and your not your hairstyle

i've known him for 15 years, and i know him very well, but i can't ever know who he truly is, and i wouldn't know him any better or worse if we had met over the internet instead--the only difference is that he'd be wearing a profile picture or an avatar instead of clothes, which is really the same kind of thing--you're not your profile picture, your profile picture is merely a projection of what you want people to perceive about you

i can concede that it's a different form of interaction, but i don't see it as a divide, and when i use that word, i mean it in the sense that the differences are so great that they are irreconcilable or incomparable

i just dislike it when people pretend as though the internet is this extraterrestrial realm where things are so different and people act so different--when they really truly act the same, and in some cases, the internet serves as a better microcosm for the human psyche than the real world ever could, and that's part of what makes it so useful and intriguing

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It doesn’t mean these are worthless experiences or conversations, but I’d say most people just aren’t real about who they are. Half the people here don’t interact with other in the way they would if this were in person. A lot of people play a character. You can meet a lot of cool, decent people online but there is a clear difference between a friend you can see every day and one you’ve never seen before.

Personally, I don’t care. I take things as they come and any interaction had online is just as real as one had in person. But it’s not exactly the same. Just like it’s sad when a friend moves away or you move away from friends and instead of handshakes it’s phone calls and messages.

again, do you think people don't play characters outside of the internet?

do you think people are real about who they are outside of the internet?

Verbatim · December 29, 2018, 12:01:40 AM

Quote from: Carmen on December 28, 2018, 11:43:40 PM

makes 0 sense

December 29, 2018, 01:34:40 AM

Verbatim · December 29, 2018, 01:42:38 AM

Quote from: Carmen on December 29, 2018, 01:34:40 AM

ok

the joke is that you're really really dumb only it's not a joke

December 29, 2018, 04:10:06 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on December 29, 2018, 01:42:38 AM

Quote from: Carmen on December 29, 2018, 01:34:40 AM
ok
the joke is that you're really really dumb only it's not a joke

of course I'm dumb but why is that funny

it's sad

Jono · December 29, 2018, 05:02:11 AM

Quote from: Carmen on December 29, 2018, 04:10:06 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on December 29, 2018, 01:42:38 AM
Quote from: Carmen on December 29, 2018, 01:34:40 AM
ok
the joke is that you're really really dumb only it's not a joke
of course I'm dumb but why is that funny

it's sad

Desty · December 29, 2018, 07:46:20 AM

You have to be fucking autistic or something to think like you verb. I just talked to a guy about this yesterday. People on the internet don't exist. They're all just entertainment in different forms. People in real life are real, because there's consequences to everyone's actions, and your brain reacts to physical things a lot more than some text