Quote from: Connoisseur of Dicks on September 23, 2015, 03:45:17 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 03:42:19 PMI'd take that risk. Insects are a remnant of the past, tbh. If they were suddenly eliminated, life would find a way.Do you want to live in a mould-ridden wasteland with ridiculously expensive water and living solely off a paste grown in a lab? Didn't think so.That's not a guaranteed outcome.
Quote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 03:42:19 PMI'd take that risk. Insects are a remnant of the past, tbh. If they were suddenly eliminated, life would find a way.Do you want to live in a mould-ridden wasteland with ridiculously expensive water and living solely off a paste grown in a lab? Didn't think so.
I'd take that risk. Insects are a remnant of the past, tbh. If they were suddenly eliminated, life would find a way.
Quote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 03:46:15 PMQuote from: Connoisseur of Dicks on September 23, 2015, 03:45:17 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 03:42:19 PMI'd take that risk. Insects are a remnant of the past, tbh. If they were suddenly eliminated, life would find a way.Do you want to live in a mould-ridden wasteland with ridiculously expensive water and living solely off a paste grown in a lab? Didn't think so.That's not a guaranteed outcome.But it would be something similar. It wouldn't be any better than the hypothetical outcome.
Quote from: Connoisseur of Dicks on September 23, 2015, 03:47:07 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 03:46:15 PMQuote from: Connoisseur of Dicks on September 23, 2015, 03:45:17 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 03:42:19 PMI'd take that risk. Insects are a remnant of the past, tbh. If they were suddenly eliminated, life would find a way.Do you want to live in a mould-ridden wasteland with ridiculously expensive water and living solely off a paste grown in a lab? Didn't think so.That's not a guaranteed outcome.But it would be something similar. It wouldn't be any better than the hypothetical outcome.No, it wouldn't. Like I said, humans are more than capable of self-sustaining an ecosystem, as long as it's human-centric.
Quote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 03:48:03 PMQuote from: Connoisseur of Dicks on September 23, 2015, 03:47:07 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 03:46:15 PMQuote from: Connoisseur of Dicks on September 23, 2015, 03:45:17 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 03:42:19 PMI'd take that risk. Insects are a remnant of the past, tbh. If they were suddenly eliminated, life would find a way.Do you want to live in a mould-ridden wasteland with ridiculously expensive water and living solely off a paste grown in a lab? Didn't think so.That's not a guaranteed outcome.But it would be something similar. It wouldn't be any better than the hypothetical outcome.No, it wouldn't. Like I said, humans are more than capable of self-sustaining an ecosystem, as long as it's human-centric.That is what our human centric ecosystem would be like, as most humans would be wiped out.
Quote from: Fuddy-duddy on September 23, 2015, 03:45:30 PMNone. Because I'm not a sick fuck.Why are you so hubristic?
None. Because I'm not a sick fuck.
Quote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 03:46:34 PMQuote from: Fuddy-duddy on September 23, 2015, 03:45:30 PMNone. Because I'm not a sick fuck.Why are you so hubristic?It keeps me sane. The realization that everyone around you isn't as ethical as you are? It kinda wears on you.
Quote from: Connoisseur of Dicks on September 23, 2015, 03:49:44 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 03:48:03 PMQuote from: Connoisseur of Dicks on September 23, 2015, 03:47:07 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 03:46:15 PMQuote from: Connoisseur of Dicks on September 23, 2015, 03:45:17 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 03:42:19 PMI'd take that risk. Insects are a remnant of the past, tbh. If they were suddenly eliminated, life would find a way.Do you want to live in a mould-ridden wasteland with ridiculously expensive water and living solely off a paste grown in a lab? Didn't think so.That's not a guaranteed outcome.But it would be something similar. It wouldn't be any better than the hypothetical outcome.No, it wouldn't. Like I said, humans are more than capable of self-sustaining an ecosystem, as long as it's human-centric.That is what our human centric ecosystem would be like, as most humans would be wiped out.No, we wouldn't. We can easily breed the same animals and grow the same crops with the absence of insects. If anything, it would help us more.Your problem is that you're thinking of nature. Gardens and farms are as far from nature as you can get.
Quote from: CarsonogenYour problem is that you're thinking of nature. Gardens and farms are as far from nature as you can get.It would be a struggle to keep those animals alive
Your problem is that you're thinking of nature. Gardens and farms are as far from nature as you can get.
Quote from: Naru on September 23, 2015, 03:10:50 PMclass, nothing would be alive if they couldnt feel pain.PlantsBacteriaProtistsFungi
class, nothing would be alive if they couldnt feel pain.
Quote from: Fuddy-duddy on September 23, 2015, 03:52:31 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 03:46:34 PMQuote from: Fuddy-duddy on September 23, 2015, 03:45:30 PMNone. Because I'm not a sick fuck.Why are you so hubristic?It keeps me sane. The realization that everyone around you isn't as ethical as you are? It kinda wears on you.Ethics are overrated. And people are just...better than insects/animals, anyway.
I'll agree with you on that one. I don't understand how anyone could advocate the extinction of humans - we're the best organism nature has produced - billions of years of evolution and natural selection has resulted in us, discussing how great we are on a mother fucking computer. Has any other organism achieved that? NO. We're god damn super-predators. We target adult animals instead of the young, which no other animal would normally do because of the risk factor (it's actually why we're unsustainable, but still). We kill animals at the top of the food chain 9 times more than they kill each other. Animals are actually evolving to be smaller as a result of us, and that's just the tip of the iceberg.We're not even really a part of the food chain anymore. We've completely changed the rules.
Quote from: Connoisseur of Dicks on September 23, 2015, 04:11:19 PMI'll agree with you on that one. I don't understand how anyone could advocate the extinction of humans - we're the best organism nature has produced - billions of years of evolution and natural selection has resulted in us, discussing how great we are on a mother fucking computer. Has any other organism achieved that? NO. We're god damn super-predators. We target adult animals instead of the young, which no other animal would normally do because of the risk factor (it's actually why we're unsustainable, but still). We kill animals at the top of the food chain 9 times more than they kill each other. Animals are actually evolving to be smaller as a result of us, and that's just the tip of the iceberg.We're not even really a part of the food chain anymore. We've completely changed the rules.Everything you just described is precisely why I hate humans so much. Plus your attitude.
All other predators engage in the same destructive behavior and something else would eventually take our place if we went extinct.
Quote from: Connoisseur of Dicks on September 23, 2015, 04:14:39 PMAll other predators engage in the same destructive behavior and something else would eventually take our place if we went extinct.Which is why I want all life to go extinct.
Quote from: Fuddy-duddy on September 23, 2015, 04:17:15 PMQuote from: Connoisseur of Dicks on September 23, 2015, 04:14:39 PMAll other predators engage in the same destructive behavior and something else would eventually take our place if we went extinct.Which is why I want all life to go extinct.But existence is good, in and of itself.
Oh lawdy, agreeing with verb.This is an odd day.You see I first read the post and thought it was worded negatively, but uh... nope. It's true, humans are so far one of the apex species but that's not really a good thing. The rats on mauritius were apex there, they massacred damn near all the native birds and that's not a good thing at all.A universe filled with nothing but murderous creatures isn't really something to cherish, humans should be using their evolutionary insight to make things better for other creatures not just slaughtering them for amusement, easy food and via carelessness.(That's where we'd diverge on the point I imagine verb)Humans have the gift of sentience, and we waste it by being no better than rats.
Humans have the gift of sentience, and we waste it by being no better than rats.
gift of sentience
Oh lawdy, agreeing with verb.This is an odd day.
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on September 23, 2015, 04:18:41 PMOh lawdy, agreeing with verb.This is an odd day.we don't disagree that muchno more than i disagree with the average user, anyway lol
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on September 23, 2015, 04:18:41 PMOh lawdy, agreeing with verb.This is an odd day.You see I first read the post and thought it was worded negatively, but uh... nope. It's true, humans are so far one of the apex species but that's not really a good thing. The rats on mauritius were apex there, they massacred damn near all the native birds and that's not a good thing at all.A universe filled with nothing but murderous creatures isn't really something to cherish, humans should be using their evolutionary insight to make things better for other creatures not just slaughtering them for amusement, easy food and via carelessness.(That's where we'd diverge on the point I imagine verb)Humans have the gift of sentience, and we waste it by being no better than rats.Quote from: Mr Psychologist on September 23, 2015, 04:18:41 PMHumans have the gift of sentience, and we waste it by being no better than rats.Quote from: Mr Psychologist on September 23, 2015, 04:18:41 PMgift of sentienceLOL
eks deeHumans are sentient creatures, believe it or not. I don't see what is all that humorous about it.
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on September 23, 2015, 04:26:18 PMeks deeHumans are sentient creatures, believe it or not. I don't see what is all that humorous about it.Did you miss my underline? Humans are sentient, but it's far from a gift. It's the opposite.