Quote from: Connoisseur of Dicks on September 23, 2015, 03:07:56 PMYou're wrong. Many plants solely rely on insects for pollination as other species do not pollinate nearly as much to sustain the species.Believe me, no plant would die out if insects disappeared. Pollination would still continue in extremely limited forms, and the subspecies of the plant that adapted to non-insect pollination would eventually become the dominant form of the plant.
You're wrong. Many plants solely rely on insects for pollination as other species do not pollinate nearly as much to sustain the species.
class, nothing would be alive if they couldnt feel pain.
Quote from: Mikasa Ackerman on September 23, 2015, 03:03:55 PMQuote from: eggsalad on September 23, 2015, 03:02:26 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 02:50:35 PMInsects are literally scum. They can't feel pain, they can't even think. They don't deserve to even exist on this planet.I'm not biologist but most of them respond to bodily harm in ways similar to higher level animals, indicating they have some sense of desire not to experience something. "but thats instinctual behavior patterns!" So is your repulsion of insects. There's a reason this elicits a different response than this.HOLY SHIT THAT PARROT PLUS SOAD IM DED NIGGA IM DEDthat is completely not what i intended to link i intended a panda cub but this works too heh
Quote from: eggsalad on September 23, 2015, 03:02:26 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 02:50:35 PMInsects are literally scum. They can't feel pain, they can't even think. They don't deserve to even exist on this planet.I'm not biologist but most of them respond to bodily harm in ways similar to higher level animals, indicating they have some sense of desire not to experience something. "but thats instinctual behavior patterns!" So is your repulsion of insects. There's a reason this elicits a different response than this.HOLY SHIT THAT PARROT PLUS SOAD IM DED NIGGA IM DED
Quote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 02:50:35 PMInsects are literally scum. They can't feel pain, they can't even think. They don't deserve to even exist on this planet.I'm not biologist but most of them respond to bodily harm in ways similar to higher level animals, indicating they have some sense of desire not to experience something. "but thats instinctual behavior patterns!" So is your repulsion of insects. There's a reason this elicits a different response than this.
Insects are literally scum. They can't feel pain, they can't even think. They don't deserve to even exist on this planet.
Quote from: Naru on September 23, 2015, 03:10:50 PMclass, nothing would be alive if they couldnt feel pain.PlantsBacteriaProtistsFungi
Quote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 03:12:33 PMQuote from: Naru on September 23, 2015, 03:10:50 PMclass, nothing would be alive if they couldnt feel pain.PlantsBacteriaProtistsFungiexactly, nothing like animals would be alive.
Quote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 03:12:33 PMQuote from: Naru on September 23, 2015, 03:10:50 PMclass, nothing would be alive if they couldnt feel pain.PlantsBacteriaProtistsFungiThey are generally immobile organisms so they typically do not face the hazards that mobile organisms possess.
Quote from: Naru on September 23, 2015, 03:14:09 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 03:12:33 PMQuote from: Naru on September 23, 2015, 03:10:50 PMclass, nothing would be alive if they couldnt feel pain.PlantsBacteriaProtistsFungiexactly, nothing like animals would be alive.You said nothing would be alive. Plants, bacteria, protists, and fungi are all alive.
Quote from: Connoisseur of Dicks on September 23, 2015, 03:14:20 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 03:12:33 PMQuote from: Naru on September 23, 2015, 03:10:50 PMclass, nothing would be alive if they couldnt feel pain.PlantsBacteriaProtistsFungiThey are generally immobile organisms so they typically do not face the hazards that mobile organisms possess.
Even though an insect-free world sounds great to most people, it world would be detrimental to our environment in many ways. First, there we would see the starvation of insect-eating animals such as frogs, moles, birds, lizards, and spiders who feed off insects to stay alive. Next there would be the inability to naturally recycle materials through composting which reintroduces nutrients into the soil. Our world would be buried in waste from all the trash we produce without insects such as beetles and their larvae, worm-like larvae, as well as true worms like night-crawlers.Another disadvantage would be the plummeting of crop yields due to lack of pollination. The honey bee alone is responsible for pollinating almonds, apples, avocados, blueberries, cantaloupes, cherries, cranberries, cucumbers, sunflowers, watermelon and many other crops. Last and most importantly there would be a collapse in the food chain. It has been said, βmany plants would disappear without insect pollinators, and entire ecosystems would collapse in the absence of insects in the food chain.βA world without insects would be no world at all; we wouldnβt exist. However, even if our planet could exist, it would lack the wonder and beautiful that nature shows us everyday. People should think about the next they say, βI hate bugs,β for its because of bugs that we are alive.
Quote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 03:14:45 PMQuote from: Naru on September 23, 2015, 03:14:09 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 03:12:33 PMQuote from: Naru on September 23, 2015, 03:10:50 PMclass, nothing would be alive if they couldnt feel pain.PlantsBacteriaProtistsFungiexactly, nothing like animals would be alive.You said nothing would be alive. Plants, bacteria, protists, and fungi are all alive.Christ, you know absolutely nothing about how ecosystems work, do you?
Quote from: Connoisseur of Dicks on September 23, 2015, 03:15:51 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 03:14:45 PMQuote from: Naru on September 23, 2015, 03:14:09 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 03:12:33 PMQuote from: Naru on September 23, 2015, 03:10:50 PMclass, nothing would be alive if they couldnt feel pain.PlantsBacteriaProtistsFungiexactly, nothing like animals would be alive.You said nothing would be alive. Plants, bacteria, protists, and fungi are all alive.Christ, you know absolutely nothing about how ecosystems work, do you?This has nothing to do with ecosystems. See if you can follow this very simple logic."Nothing would be alive if it couldn't feel pain""What about these things that are alive but can't feel pain""Lol what are ecosystems"like what lol
What did they teach you in school? My god, and you're the one who is the first to be critical of others.
Quote from: Connoisseur of Dicks on September 23, 2015, 03:18:36 PMWhat did they teach you in school? My god, and you're the one who is the first to be critical of others.Okay, you're clearly not grasping what I'm saying here. Ignore the context of this thread for a second. Just focus on what Naru said."Nothing that is alive can't feel pain"That's an objectively wrong statement. I provided clear counterexamples, and all anyone can talk about is how I don't understand the ecosystem. Even though that has nothing to do with the point I was addressing.Now, back to what we were actually taking about.SpoilerI don't care lolnot like I'm going to singlehandedly destroy every insect in the world
Quote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 03:14:45 PMQuote from: Naru on September 23, 2015, 03:14:09 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 03:12:33 PMQuote from: Naru on September 23, 2015, 03:10:50 PMclass, nothing would be alive if they couldnt feel pain.PlantsBacteriaProtistsFungiexactly, nothing like animals would be alive.You said nothing would be alive. Plants, bacteria, protists, and fungi are all alive.like digger said, they arent exposed to hazards like animals, they have no need to have pain receptors or anything we have. even plants respond to stimuli.
Quote from: Naru on September 23, 2015, 03:29:43 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 03:14:45 PMQuote from: Naru on September 23, 2015, 03:14:09 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 03:12:33 PMQuote from: Naru on September 23, 2015, 03:10:50 PMclass, nothing would be alive if they couldnt feel pain.PlantsBacteriaProtistsFungiexactly, nothing like animals would be alive.You said nothing would be alive. Plants, bacteria, protists, and fungi are all alive.like digger said, they arent exposed to hazards like animals, they have no need to have pain receptors or anything we have. even plants respond to stimuli.Holy shit, this is not even what you originally said, nor what I was responding to:Quote from: Naru on September 23, 2015, 03:14:09 PMclass, nothing would be alive if they couldnt feel pain.You didn't say "nothing that are exposed to hazards like animals would be alive if they couldnt feel pain", you said nothing.
is your hatrd for insects because you got bit by the grasshopper?
I'd take that risk. Insects are a remnant of the past, tbh. If they were suddenly eliminated, life would find a way.
Quote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 03:42:19 PMI'd take that risk. Insects are a remnant of the past, tbh. If they were suddenly eliminated, life would find a way.Do you want to live in a mould-ridden wasteland with ridiculously expensive water and living solely off a paste grown in a lab? Didn't think so.
None. Because I'm not a sick fuck.