"Meat is for Pussies"

Elai · February 13, 2018, 04:53:45 PM

Some meat tastes better than others uncurated, but I think the majority of it is just as inappetising as other "natural food."

Batch · February 13, 2018, 05:59:15 PM

Soy farms will destroy our ecosystem. What say you goy?

Kitsune 狐 · February 13, 2018, 06:03:57 PM

Good thing I'm physically allergic to meat....

Batch · February 13, 2018, 06:07:08 PM

Quote from: Kitsune 狐 on February 13, 2018, 06:03:57 PM

Good thing I'm physically allergic to meat....

Like a certain type of meat? Red, white, fish?

That would suck.

Kitsune 狐 · February 13, 2018, 06:09:39 PM

Quote from: Batch on February 13, 2018, 06:07:08 PM

Quote from: Kitsune 狐 on February 13, 2018, 06:03:57 PM
Good thing I'm physically allergic to meat....
Like a certain type of meat? Red, white, fish?

That would suck.

I'm allergic to red meat. It does suck. I miss tonkotsu ramen and korean bbq... it's better for me in the long run, but it still sucks.

Batch · February 13, 2018, 08:41:19 PM

Quote from: Kitsune 狐 on February 13, 2018, 06:09:39 PM

Quote from: Batch on February 13, 2018, 06:07:08 PM
Quote from: Kitsune 狐 on February 13, 2018, 06:03:57 PM
Good thing I'm physically allergic to meat....
Like a certain type of meat? Red, white, fish?

That would suck.

I'm allergic to red meat. It does suck. I miss tonkotsu ramen and korean bbq... it's better for me in the long run, but it still sucks.

You still eat chicken right? The best meat IMO

Aether · February 13, 2018, 09:25:21 PM

Quote from: Kitsune 狐 on February 13, 2018, 06:09:39 PM

I'm allergic to red meat. It does suck. I miss tonkotsu ramen and korean bbq... it's better for me in the long run, but it still sucks.

Full blown anaphylaxis allergic or hyper-sensitive to it? A lot of people develop food sensitivities from a condition called leaky gut syndrome which increases the permeability of your intestinal wall, allowing larger particles and pathogens to enter the blood stream that aren't supposed to. I've heard it can lead to full blown food allergies for people that weren't born with them, as your immune system starts to attack the things getting into your bloodstream that aren't supposed to be.

Not saying you, specifically, have it, but a lot of people do and don't even know about it.

Coomer · February 13, 2018, 09:30:49 PM

Dietrich Six · February 13, 2018, 10:43:42 PM

Quote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 04:53:45 PM

Some meat tastes better than others uncurated, but I think the majority of it is just as inappetising as other "natural food."

That's an un fam.

Elai · February 13, 2018, 11:06:45 PM

Quote from: Dietrich Six on February 13, 2018, 10:43:42 PM

Quote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 04:53:45 PM
Some meat tastes better than others uncurated, but I think the majority of it is just as inappetising as other "natural food."
That's an un fam.

thats the right word but it feels wrong

Dietrich Six · February 14, 2018, 12:38:28 AM

Quote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 11:06:45 PM

Quote from: Dietrich Six on February 13, 2018, 10:43:42 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 04:53:45 PM
Some meat tastes better than others uncurated, but I think the majority of it is just as inappetising as other "natural food."
That's an un fam.

thats the right word but it feels wrong

I'm confused, you think unappetizing feels wrong?

Elai · February 14, 2018, 01:11:29 AM

Quote from: Dietrich Six on February 14, 2018, 12:38:28 AM

Quote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 11:06:45 PM
Quote from: Dietrich Six on February 13, 2018, 10:43:42 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 04:53:45 PM
Some meat tastes better than others uncurated, but I think the majority of it is just as inappetising as other "natural food."
That's an un fam.

thats the right word but it feels wrong

I'm confused, you think unappetizing feels wrong?

within the context of my post it feels wrong to use unappetising instead of inappetising.

Korra · February 14, 2018, 01:29:47 AM

Quote from: Eli on February 14, 2018, 01:11:29 AM

Quote from: Dietrich Six on February 14, 2018, 12:38:28 AM
Quote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 11:06:45 PM
Quote from: Dietrich Six on February 13, 2018, 10:43:42 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 04:53:45 PM
Some meat tastes better than others uncurated, but I think the majority of it is just as inappetising as other "natural food."
That's an un fam.

thats the right word but it feels wrong

I'm confused, you think unappetizing feels wrong?

within the context of my post it feels wrong to use unappetising instead of inappetising.

Elai · February 14, 2018, 02:16:33 AM

Quote from: DELET THIS on February 14, 2018, 01:29:47 AM

Quote from: Eli on February 14, 2018, 01:11:29 AM
Quote from: Dietrich Six on February 14, 2018, 12:38:28 AM
Quote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 11:06:45 PM
Quote from: Dietrich Six on February 13, 2018, 10:43:42 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 04:53:45 PM
Some meat tastes better than others uncurated, but I think the majority of it is just as inappetising as other "natural food."
That's an un fam.

thats the right word but it feels wrong

I'm confused, you think unappetizing feels wrong?

within the context of my post it feels wrong to use unappetising instead of inappetising.

this would never have happened if we'd finally made the switch to the German/Chinese hybrid.

Dietrich Six · February 14, 2018, 03:06:38 AM

Quote from: Eli on February 14, 2018, 01:11:29 AM

Quote from: Dietrich Six on February 14, 2018, 12:38:28 AM
Quote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 11:06:45 PM
Quote from: Dietrich Six on February 13, 2018, 10:43:42 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 04:53:45 PM
Some meat tastes better than others uncurated, but I think the majority of it is just as inappetising as other "natural food."
That's an un fam.

thats the right word but it feels wrong

I'm confused, you think unappetizing feels wrong?

within the context of my post it feels wrong to use unappetising instead of inappetising.

What's inapealing about unappetizing?

Elai · February 14, 2018, 07:13:07 AM

Quote from: Dietrich Six on February 14, 2018, 03:06:38 AM

Quote from: Eli on February 14, 2018, 01:11:29 AM
Quote from: Dietrich Six on February 14, 2018, 12:38:28 AM
Quote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 11:06:45 PM
Quote from: Dietrich Six on February 13, 2018, 10:43:42 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 04:53:45 PM
Some meat tastes better than others uncurated, but I think the majority of it is just as inappetising as other "natural food."
That's an un fam.

thats the right word but it feels wrong

I'm confused, you think unappetizing feels wrong?

within the context of my post it feels wrong to use unappetising instead of inappetising.

What's inapealing about unappetizing?

inappealing feels wrong in that context

im not saying im right, im just explaining why i used inappetising instead of the proper word

Elai · February 14, 2018, 07:25:29 AM

The word appetite comes from the Latin "appetitus," which means "to seek," and the general rule when it comes to using the "in" versus "un" prefix is that you use "in" for Latin-based words and "un" for Germanic based words. "Appetite" being Latin means that "inappetising" in this case is technically correct. I think it's more of that "unappetising" just doesn't carry the meaning I'm going for, sort of like using "unhuman" instead of "inhuman." Technically they have the same meaning, but they carry different uses in practice.

Korra · February 14, 2018, 10:05:14 PM

Quote from: Eli on February 14, 2018, 07:25:29 AM

The word appetite comes from the Latin "appetitus," which means "to seek," and the general rule when it comes to using the "in" versus "un" prefix is that you use "in" for Latin-based words and "un" for Germanic based words. "Appetite" being Latin means that "inappetising" in this case is technically correct. I think it's more of that "unappetising" just doesn't carry the meaning I'm going for, sort of like using "unhuman" instead of "inhuman." Technically they have the same meaning, but they carry different uses in practice.

I love language.

Elai · February 15, 2018, 12:15:06 AM

Quote from: challengerX on February 13, 2018, 01:38:03 PM

Should we stop killing so many animals just for food? Probably yeah, but don't make these dumb arguments about how it isn't healthy or that it tastes bad etc.

Not to start shit back up again or pull a Flee but I missed this part and felt compelled to address it. Red meat is bad for you no matter how you slice it (as are all processed meats.) Some chicken and pork can be good for you but to make them taste better than they actually do you have to sort of make them unhealthy (grease or some sort of flavourful sauce.) The World Health Organisation actually ranks processed meats alongside cigarettes as a major cause of cancer.

http://www.who.int/features/qa/cancer-red-meat/en/

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1. What do you consider as red meat?
Red meat refers to all mammalian muscle meat, including, beef, veal, pork, lamb, mutton, horse, and goat.

2. What do you consider as processed meat?
Processed meat refers to meat that has been transformed through salting, curing, fermentation, smoking, or other processes to enhance flavour or improve preservation. Most processed meats contain pork or beef, but processed meats may also contain other red meats, poultry, offal, or meat by-products such as blood.

7. Red meat was classified as Group 2A, probably carcinogenic to humans. What does this mean exactly?
In the case of red meat, the classification is based on limited evidence from epidemiological studies showing positive associations between eating red meat and developing colorectal cancer as well as strong mechanistic evidence.

8. Processed meat was classified as Group 1, carcinogenic to humans. What does this mean?
This category is used when there is sufficient evidence of carcinogenicity in humans. In other words, there is convincing evidence that the agent causes cancer. The evaluation is usually based on epidemiological studies showing the development of cancer in exposed humans.

In the case of processed meat, this classification is based on sufficient evidence from epidemiological studies that eating processed meat causes colorectal cancer.

25. How many studies were evaluated?
The IARC Working Group considered more than 800 different studies on cancer in humans (some studies provided data on both types of meat; in total more than 700 epidemiological studies provided data on red meat and more than 400 epidemiological studies provided data on processed meat).

26. How many experts were involved in the evaluation?
The IARC Working Group consisted of 22 experts from 10 countries.

This isn't to say that cigarettes and red meat are equally cancerous but it's not accurate to say red meat is healthy for you. There are health benefits to eating red meat but when you compare a steak to something that provides an equal amount of protein (and in some cases a complete form of protein with all the good amino acids) it just screams "Not worth it."

I'll concede that the taste argument is a bit of a stretch because personal taste does come into account (though I still maintain raw meat that's only been cooked is a far cry from what people think meat should taste like) but the health argument is valid.

DAS B00T x2 · February 15, 2018, 12:22:13 AM

tbh I can't be assed to be persuaded by the carcinogen argument in the least.

Not that I plan on living long enough for the family history of colon cancer to get to me anyway.

Elai · February 15, 2018, 12:26:12 AM

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on February 15, 2018, 12:22:13 AM

tbh I can't be assed to be persuaded by the carcinogen argument in the least.

i guess i understand that, given that i cant be assed to try and persuade you

BaconShelf · February 15, 2018, 04:52:56 AM

What about if I'm just a lazy piece of shit who wants to spend as little time shopping as possible and looking at labels is counterproductive to that goal

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BaconShelf · February 15, 2018, 04:58:00 AM

Quote from: challengerX on February 15, 2018, 04:57:06 AM

Quote from: BaconShelf on February 15, 2018, 04:52:56 AM
What about if I'm just a lazy piece of shit who wants to spend as little time shopping as possible and looking at labels is counterproductive to that goal
then you are truly epic

Thanks my man. Here's some reddit gold for your trouble

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Elai · February 15, 2018, 11:53:31 AM

Quote from: BaconShelf on February 15, 2018, 04:52:56 AM

What about if I'm just a lazy piece of shit who wants to spend as little time shopping as possible and looking at labels is counterproductive to that goal

i'd try to convince you (and everyone) to try and care about your health because its a pretty cool feeling having complete control and mastery over your body but ultimately id leave it be because you already admitted youre wrong

i am karjala takaisin · February 15, 2018, 12:49:31 PM

im just hoping for a stem cell grown meat future. idk how well that'll go with the agricultural meat industry though, or what would be done with the billions of animals

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