Quote from: Desty on February 13, 2018, 12:56:05 PMQuote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 12:47:20 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 12:41:58 PMQuote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 12:33:56 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 12:06:01 PMQuote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 11:16:08 AMQuote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 04:42:23 AMI am trying to give up meat.No beef or pork, but chicken is too hard to resist.Just remember meat only taste good because of the seasoning/curing it goes through post-harvest. If you repeat the same process with something like tofu it tastes excellent as well. There's nothing inherently good tasting about animal carcass.I eat everything raw. i.e unseasoned. I let the food add flavour to itself.Unless you're buying all of your meat directly from the guy who killed the cow, it's been flavoured already. Why do you think it tastes so good?if this is flavoured, then holy shit what does it takes like raw?Chicken on its own is literally chewy rubber.Yeah, violently butchered creatures taste bad. Who would have thought?What're you trying to imitate Verbatim for? Everything you find good-tasting has a reason for tasting so good. If animals tasted like crap, there'd be no reason for traditional families' menus to be so reliant on meat. It's on the menu because it tastes good because it provides a lot of nutrients.we wouldn't have to cook meat first if it didn't taste like shit basally
Quote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 12:47:20 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 12:41:58 PMQuote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 12:33:56 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 12:06:01 PMQuote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 11:16:08 AMQuote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 04:42:23 AMI am trying to give up meat.No beef or pork, but chicken is too hard to resist.Just remember meat only taste good because of the seasoning/curing it goes through post-harvest. If you repeat the same process with something like tofu it tastes excellent as well. There's nothing inherently good tasting about animal carcass.I eat everything raw. i.e unseasoned. I let the food add flavour to itself.Unless you're buying all of your meat directly from the guy who killed the cow, it's been flavoured already. Why do you think it tastes so good?if this is flavoured, then holy shit what does it takes like raw?Chicken on its own is literally chewy rubber.Yeah, violently butchered creatures taste bad. Who would have thought?What're you trying to imitate Verbatim for? Everything you find good-tasting has a reason for tasting so good. If animals tasted like crap, there'd be no reason for traditional families' menus to be so reliant on meat. It's on the menu because it tastes good because it provides a lot of nutrients.
Quote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 12:41:58 PMQuote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 12:33:56 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 12:06:01 PMQuote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 11:16:08 AMQuote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 04:42:23 AMI am trying to give up meat.No beef or pork, but chicken is too hard to resist.Just remember meat only taste good because of the seasoning/curing it goes through post-harvest. If you repeat the same process with something like tofu it tastes excellent as well. There's nothing inherently good tasting about animal carcass.I eat everything raw. i.e unseasoned. I let the food add flavour to itself.Unless you're buying all of your meat directly from the guy who killed the cow, it's been flavoured already. Why do you think it tastes so good?if this is flavoured, then holy shit what does it takes like raw?Chicken on its own is literally chewy rubber.Yeah, violently butchered creatures taste bad. Who would have thought?
Quote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 12:33:56 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 12:06:01 PMQuote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 11:16:08 AMQuote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 04:42:23 AMI am trying to give up meat.No beef or pork, but chicken is too hard to resist.Just remember meat only taste good because of the seasoning/curing it goes through post-harvest. If you repeat the same process with something like tofu it tastes excellent as well. There's nothing inherently good tasting about animal carcass.I eat everything raw. i.e unseasoned. I let the food add flavour to itself.Unless you're buying all of your meat directly from the guy who killed the cow, it's been flavoured already. Why do you think it tastes so good?if this is flavoured, then holy shit what does it takes like raw?Chicken on its own is literally chewy rubber.
Quote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 12:06:01 PMQuote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 11:16:08 AMQuote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 04:42:23 AMI am trying to give up meat.No beef or pork, but chicken is too hard to resist.Just remember meat only taste good because of the seasoning/curing it goes through post-harvest. If you repeat the same process with something like tofu it tastes excellent as well. There's nothing inherently good tasting about animal carcass.I eat everything raw. i.e unseasoned. I let the food add flavour to itself.Unless you're buying all of your meat directly from the guy who killed the cow, it's been flavoured already. Why do you think it tastes so good?
Quote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 11:16:08 AMQuote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 04:42:23 AMI am trying to give up meat.No beef or pork, but chicken is too hard to resist.Just remember meat only taste good because of the seasoning/curing it goes through post-harvest. If you repeat the same process with something like tofu it tastes excellent as well. There's nothing inherently good tasting about animal carcass.I eat everything raw. i.e unseasoned. I let the food add flavour to itself.
Quote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 04:42:23 AMI am trying to give up meat.No beef or pork, but chicken is too hard to resist.Just remember meat only taste good because of the seasoning/curing it goes through post-harvest. If you repeat the same process with something like tofu it tastes excellent as well. There's nothing inherently good tasting about animal carcass.
I am trying to give up meat.No beef or pork, but chicken is too hard to resist.
We cook meat because modern human stomachs don't have the necessary strong enzymes to break down raw meat like ancient humans did and animals do, we basically allow fire to break down these enzymes first beforehand. In an ironic twist, by cooking the meat you're stripping it of a lot of its nutritious properties in the first place, leaving it with very little of what it had before. So yeah.
What're you trying to imitate Verbatim for?
If animals tasted like crap, there'd be no reason for traditional families' menus to be so reliant on meat. It's on the menu because it tastes good because it provides a lot of nutrients.
Quote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 12:47:20 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 12:41:58 PMQuote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 12:33:56 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 12:06:01 PMQuote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 11:16:08 AMQuote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 04:42:23 AMI am trying to give up meat.No beef or pork, but chicken is too hard to resist.Just remember meat only taste good because of the seasoning/curing it goes through post-harvest. If you repeat the same process with something like tofu it tastes excellent as well. There's nothing inherently good tasting about animal carcass.I eat everything raw. i.e unseasoned. I let the food add flavour to itself.Unless you're buying all of your meat directly from the guy who killed the cow, it's been flavoured already. Why do you think it tastes so good?if this is flavoured, then holy shit what does it takes like raw?Chicken on its own is literally chewy rubber.Yeah, violently butchered creatures taste bad. Who would have thought?This is bullshit lol I've had rabbit that a friend shot and it was delicious. Animals taste great. If you go to a farmers market and choose a chicken then cut off the head, pluck and clean it, I guarantee it's far more delicious than anything you get in the supermarket.You have valid arguments against eating meat, but this isn't one of them.
This is bullshit lol I've had rabbit that a friend shot and it was delicious. Animals taste great. If you go to a farmers market and choose a chicken then cut off the head, pluck and clean it, I guarantee it's far more delicious than anything you get in the supermarket.You have valid arguments against eating meat, but this isn't one of them.
Quote from: Verbatim on February 13, 2018, 01:04:22 PMQuote from: Desty on February 13, 2018, 12:56:05 PMQuote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 12:47:20 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 12:41:58 PMQuote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 12:33:56 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 12:06:01 PMQuote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 11:16:08 AMQuote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 04:42:23 AMI am trying to give up meat.No beef or pork, but chicken is too hard to resist.Just remember meat only taste good because of the seasoning/curing it goes through post-harvest. If you repeat the same process with something like tofu it tastes excellent as well. There's nothing inherently good tasting about animal carcass.I eat everything raw. i.e unseasoned. I let the food add flavour to itself.Unless you're buying all of your meat directly from the guy who killed the cow, it's been flavoured already. Why do you think it tastes so good?if this is flavoured, then holy shit what does it takes like raw?Chicken on its own is literally chewy rubber.Yeah, violently butchered creatures taste bad. Who would have thought?What're you trying to imitate Verbatim for? Everything you find good-tasting has a reason for tasting so good. If animals tasted like crap, there'd be no reason for traditional families' menus to be so reliant on meat. It's on the menu because it tastes good because it provides a lot of nutrients.we wouldn't have to cook meat first if it didn't taste like shit basallybut carpaccio is delicious
Quote from: Verbatim on February 13, 2018, 01:28:05 PMQuote from: challengerX on February 13, 2018, 01:23:33 PMQuote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 12:47:20 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 12:41:58 PMQuote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 12:33:56 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 12:06:01 PMQuote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 11:16:08 AMQuote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 04:42:23 AMI am trying to give up meat.No beef or pork, but chicken is too hard to resist.Just remember meat only taste good because of the seasoning/curing it goes through post-harvest. If you repeat the same process with something like tofu it tastes excellent as well. There's nothing inherently good tasting about animal carcass.I eat everything raw. i.e unseasoned. I let the food add flavour to itself.Unless you're buying all of your meat directly from the guy who killed the cow, it's been flavoured already. Why do you think it tastes so good?if this is flavoured, then holy shit what does it takes like raw?Chicken on its own is literally chewy rubber.Yeah, violently butchered creatures taste bad. Who would have thought?This is bullshit lol I've had rabbit that a friend shot and it was delicious. Animals taste great. If you go to a farmers market and choose a chicken then cut off the head, pluck and clean it, I guarantee it's far more delicious than anything you get in the supermarket.You have valid arguments against eating meat, but this isn't one of them."animals taste good if you do things that make them taste good"What? Are you suggesting people eat chickens whole and die from a disease? Lmao what the fuck. Just like you have to clean harvest and clean vegetables, you have to butcher and clean animals (removing fur/feathers/digestive tract). And you can use heads of many animals for stews, actually. A soup that is considered a delicacy in Iran is made with sheep head and sometimes feet.
Quote from: challengerX on February 13, 2018, 01:23:33 PMQuote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 12:47:20 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 12:41:58 PMQuote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 12:33:56 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 12:06:01 PMQuote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 11:16:08 AMQuote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 04:42:23 AMI am trying to give up meat.No beef or pork, but chicken is too hard to resist.Just remember meat only taste good because of the seasoning/curing it goes through post-harvest. If you repeat the same process with something like tofu it tastes excellent as well. There's nothing inherently good tasting about animal carcass.I eat everything raw. i.e unseasoned. I let the food add flavour to itself.Unless you're buying all of your meat directly from the guy who killed the cow, it's been flavoured already. Why do you think it tastes so good?if this is flavoured, then holy shit what does it takes like raw?Chicken on its own is literally chewy rubber.Yeah, violently butchered creatures taste bad. Who would have thought?This is bullshit lol I've had rabbit that a friend shot and it was delicious. Animals taste great. If you go to a farmers market and choose a chicken then cut off the head, pluck and clean it, I guarantee it's far more delicious than anything you get in the supermarket.You have valid arguments against eating meat, but this isn't one of them."animals taste good if you do things that make them taste good"
Have you ever had meat that wasn't from a supermarket? I used to get beef and pork from a guy who owned a small farm and butchered animals himself. I'd cook it on a fire and sometimes I wouldn't even add salt. The fat melts in your mouth and it's extremely flavorful.If anything the process industrial meat goes through makes it taste worse.
Quote from: Verbatim on February 13, 2018, 01:33:13 PMQuote from: challengerX on February 13, 2018, 01:27:59 PMQuote from: Verbatim on February 13, 2018, 01:04:22 PMQuote from: Desty on February 13, 2018, 12:56:05 PMQuote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 12:47:20 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 12:41:58 PMQuote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 12:33:56 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 12:06:01 PMQuote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 11:16:08 AMQuote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 04:42:23 AMI am trying to give up meat.No beef or pork, but chicken is too hard to resist.Just remember meat only taste good because of the seasoning/curing it goes through post-harvest. If you repeat the same process with something like tofu it tastes excellent as well. There's nothing inherently good tasting about animal carcass.I eat everything raw. i.e unseasoned. I let the food add flavour to itself.Unless you're buying all of your meat directly from the guy who killed the cow, it's been flavoured already. Why do you think it tastes so good?if this is flavoured, then holy shit what does it takes like raw?Chicken on its own is literally chewy rubber.Yeah, violently butchered creatures taste bad. Who would have thought?What're you trying to imitate Verbatim for? Everything you find good-tasting has a reason for tasting so good. If animals tasted like crap, there'd be no reason for traditional families' menus to be so reliant on meat. It's on the menu because it tastes good because it provides a lot of nutrients.we wouldn't have to cook meat first if it didn't taste like shit basallybut carpaccio is deliciousthere are people who eat shitthere are people who eat shit, puke it up, and then eat it up againand they enjoy itthis is why "taste" arguments are a complete waste of time and shouldn't be a factor in these discussionsit doesn't mean anything to enjoy or not enjoy something, nobody caresAnd I made my point by stating that these people have a mental disorder.Raw meat is tasty and healthy. Should we stop killing so many animals just for food? Probably yeah, but don't make these dumb arguments about how it isn't healthy or that it tastes bad etc.
Quote from: challengerX on February 13, 2018, 01:27:59 PMQuote from: Verbatim on February 13, 2018, 01:04:22 PMQuote from: Desty on February 13, 2018, 12:56:05 PMQuote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 12:47:20 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 12:41:58 PMQuote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 12:33:56 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 12:06:01 PMQuote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 11:16:08 AMQuote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 04:42:23 AMI am trying to give up meat.No beef or pork, but chicken is too hard to resist.Just remember meat only taste good because of the seasoning/curing it goes through post-harvest. If you repeat the same process with something like tofu it tastes excellent as well. There's nothing inherently good tasting about animal carcass.I eat everything raw. i.e unseasoned. I let the food add flavour to itself.Unless you're buying all of your meat directly from the guy who killed the cow, it's been flavoured already. Why do you think it tastes so good?if this is flavoured, then holy shit what does it takes like raw?Chicken on its own is literally chewy rubber.Yeah, violently butchered creatures taste bad. Who would have thought?What're you trying to imitate Verbatim for? Everything you find good-tasting has a reason for tasting so good. If animals tasted like crap, there'd be no reason for traditional families' menus to be so reliant on meat. It's on the menu because it tastes good because it provides a lot of nutrients.we wouldn't have to cook meat first if it didn't taste like shit basallybut carpaccio is deliciousthere are people who eat shitthere are people who eat shit, puke it up, and then eat it up againand they enjoy itthis is why "taste" arguments are a complete waste of time and shouldn't be a factor in these discussionsit doesn't mean anything to enjoy or not enjoy something, nobody cares
Quote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 12:33:05 PMQuote from: Aether on February 13, 2018, 12:27:06 PMFor someone with a health condition like mine, eliminating meat would reduce my protein options to virtually zero. Not until they manage to create some edible food substance that contains the required levels of protein with minimal to no levels of carbs, starches, sugars etc. and make it commercially available.What condition do you have?Something called Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth. If you wanna know:People usually get the beginning stages of it from antibiotics wiping out the good bacteria in their gut, which allows antibiotic resistant bacteria to start colonizing your intestines. It starts more in the colon, giving people IBS or even Colitis but with a very poor diet and general lifestyle it can make its way into your small intestine. Once that happens you can't really process sugar and carbs anymore because the bacteria (and fungi like yeast as well) feeds on it like crazy and it wreaks havoc on the rest of your body producing exotoxins and mycotoxins that circulate throughout your bloodsteam, which can give you all manner of problems like arthritis, fibromyalgia, migraines, muscle cramps, chronic fatigue and inflammation, depression and anxeity. Not to mention all the digestive problems you'll have.You can eliminate it with a very strict diet, high levels of probiotics, and anti-microbial supplements, but you have to go through hell during that process, since killing the overgrowth causes it to basically release all the toxins it was slowly secreting in a much bigger 'dose' you could say. Something called a Herxheimer reaction. Which could actually really damage your liver and kidneys so you have to be very careful. People with other infections diseases like Lyme disease go through the same process and it can actually kill you if you kill too much too fast with certain infections.
Quote from: Aether on February 13, 2018, 12:27:06 PMFor someone with a health condition like mine, eliminating meat would reduce my protein options to virtually zero. Not until they manage to create some edible food substance that contains the required levels of protein with minimal to no levels of carbs, starches, sugars etc. and make it commercially available.What condition do you have?
For someone with a health condition like mine, eliminating meat would reduce my protein options to virtually zero. Not until they manage to create some edible food substance that contains the required levels of protein with minimal to no levels of carbs, starches, sugars etc. and make it commercially available.
Quote from: Verbatim on February 13, 2018, 01:38:47 PMQuote from: challengerX on February 13, 2018, 01:38:03 PMQuote from: Verbatim on February 13, 2018, 01:33:13 PMQuote from: challengerX on February 13, 2018, 01:27:59 PMQuote from: Verbatim on February 13, 2018, 01:04:22 PMQuote from: Desty on February 13, 2018, 12:56:05 PMQuote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 12:47:20 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 12:41:58 PMQuote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 12:33:56 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 12:06:01 PMQuote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 11:16:08 AMQuote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 04:42:23 AMI am trying to give up meat.No beef or pork, but chicken is too hard to resist.Just remember meat only taste good because of the seasoning/curing it goes through post-harvest. If you repeat the same process with something like tofu it tastes excellent as well. There's nothing inherently good tasting about animal carcass.I eat everything raw. i.e unseasoned. I let the food add flavour to itself.Unless you're buying all of your meat directly from the guy who killed the cow, it's been flavoured already. Why do you think it tastes so good?if this is flavoured, then holy shit what does it takes like raw?Chicken on its own is literally chewy rubber.Yeah, violently butchered creatures taste bad. Who would have thought?What're you trying to imitate Verbatim for? Everything you find good-tasting has a reason for tasting so good. If animals tasted like crap, there'd be no reason for traditional families' menus to be so reliant on meat. It's on the menu because it tastes good because it provides a lot of nutrients.we wouldn't have to cook meat first if it didn't taste like shit basallybut carpaccio is deliciousthere are people who eat shitthere are people who eat shit, puke it up, and then eat it up againand they enjoy itthis is why "taste" arguments are a complete waste of time and shouldn't be a factor in these discussionsit doesn't mean anything to enjoy or not enjoy something, nobody caresAnd I made my point by stating that these people have a mental disorder.Raw meat is tasty and healthy. Should we stop killing so many animals just for food? Probably yeah, but don't make these dumb arguments about how it isn't healthy or that it tastes bad etc.i would describe enjoying raw meat as a mental disorderBut you'd be wrong, and it's just you making an emotional argument. If you want to make an emotional argument, stick to the fact that killing animals for food is shitty. Don't make these lame arguments.
Quote from: challengerX on February 13, 2018, 01:38:03 PMQuote from: Verbatim on February 13, 2018, 01:33:13 PMQuote from: challengerX on February 13, 2018, 01:27:59 PMQuote from: Verbatim on February 13, 2018, 01:04:22 PMQuote from: Desty on February 13, 2018, 12:56:05 PMQuote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 12:47:20 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 12:41:58 PMQuote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 12:33:56 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 12:06:01 PMQuote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 11:16:08 AMQuote from: FatherlyNick on February 13, 2018, 04:42:23 AMI am trying to give up meat.No beef or pork, but chicken is too hard to resist.Just remember meat only taste good because of the seasoning/curing it goes through post-harvest. If you repeat the same process with something like tofu it tastes excellent as well. There's nothing inherently good tasting about animal carcass.I eat everything raw. i.e unseasoned. I let the food add flavour to itself.Unless you're buying all of your meat directly from the guy who killed the cow, it's been flavoured already. Why do you think it tastes so good?if this is flavoured, then holy shit what does it takes like raw?Chicken on its own is literally chewy rubber.Yeah, violently butchered creatures taste bad. Who would have thought?What're you trying to imitate Verbatim for? Everything you find good-tasting has a reason for tasting so good. If animals tasted like crap, there'd be no reason for traditional families' menus to be so reliant on meat. It's on the menu because it tastes good because it provides a lot of nutrients.we wouldn't have to cook meat first if it didn't taste like shit basallybut carpaccio is deliciousthere are people who eat shitthere are people who eat shit, puke it up, and then eat it up againand they enjoy itthis is why "taste" arguments are a complete waste of time and shouldn't be a factor in these discussionsit doesn't mean anything to enjoy or not enjoy something, nobody caresAnd I made my point by stating that these people have a mental disorder.Raw meat is tasty and healthy. Should we stop killing so many animals just for food? Probably yeah, but don't make these dumb arguments about how it isn't healthy or that it tastes bad etc.i would describe enjoying raw meat as a mental disorder
Quote from: challengerX on February 13, 2018, 01:23:33 PMThis is bullshit lol I've had rabbit that a friend shot and it was delicious. Animals taste great. If you go to a farmers market and choose a chicken then cut off the head, pluck and clean it, I guarantee it's far more delicious than anything you get in the supermarket.You have valid arguments against eating meat, but this isn't one of them.Maybe rabbit tastes good, then. I don't know. Beef, chicken and pork is exceptionally bland without some kind of seasoning.
Canada isn't really known for having delicious beef.
It isn't bland at all. Like I said it doesn't even need salt. This isn't just me, many people eat meat like this from many different cultures.
Quote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 01:28:07 PMQuote from: challengerX on February 13, 2018, 01:23:33 PMThis is bullshit lol I've had rabbit that a friend shot and it was delicious. Animals taste great. If you go to a farmers market and choose a chicken then cut off the head, pluck and clean it, I guarantee it's far more delicious than anything you get in the supermarket.You have valid arguments against eating meat, but this isn't one of them.Maybe rabbit tastes good, then. I don't know. Beef, chicken and pork is exceptionally bland without some kind of seasoning.Do you eat a lot of processed food or food with higher levels of sugar? When I cut out sugar, carbs, and all processed foods, I started to notice a difference in how flavorful foods that used to be bland to me tasted. Plain chicken or turkey has a very good flavor to me now, for instance. I also make my own plain sour yogurt and and it tastes much better than plain yogurt I've tried in the past before my diet changes. Not really sour at all.tbh just about everything I eat now tastes a lot better since cutting sugar from my diet.
Quote from: Aether on February 13, 2018, 12:52:08 PMQuote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 12:33:05 PMQuote from: Aether on February 13, 2018, 12:27:06 PMFor someone with a health condition like mine, eliminating meat would reduce my protein options to virtually zero. Not until they manage to create some edible food substance that contains the required levels of protein with minimal to no levels of carbs, starches, sugars etc. and make it commercially available.What condition do you have?Something called Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth. If you wanna know:People usually get the beginning stages of it from antibiotics wiping out the good bacteria in their gut, which allows antibiotic resistant bacteria to start colonizing your intestines. It starts more in the colon, giving people IBS or even Colitis but with a very poor diet and general lifestyle it can make its way into your small intestine. Once that happens you can't really process sugar and carbs anymore because the bacteria (and fungi like yeast as well) feeds on it like crazy and it wreaks havoc on the rest of your body producing exotoxins and mycotoxins that circulate throughout your bloodsteam, which can give you all manner of problems like arthritis, fibromyalgia, migraines, muscle cramps, chronic fatigue and inflammation, depression and anxeity. Not to mention all the digestive problems you'll have.You can eliminate it with a very strict diet, high levels of probiotics, and anti-microbial supplements, but you have to go through hell during that process, since killing the overgrowth causes it to basically release all the toxins it was slowly secreting in a much bigger 'dose' you could say. Something called a Herxheimer reaction. Which could actually really damage your liver and kidneys so you have to be very careful. People with other infections diseases like Lyme disease go through the same process and it can actually kill you if you kill too much too fast with certain infections.So after a bit of research it looks like you'd be allowed some beans, tofu and nuts in your case. Lots of ripe fruits and non-starchy vegetables, with some honey to add flavour. That sounds pretty much exactly like my current diet. https://www.siboinfo.com/diet.html
I've never heard about anybody mentioning A1 Canadian beef lol. Marketers will say anything.
This shit happens everywhere. If you don't get meat from a smaller farm where the animals live freely and eat well it's gonna taste shitty. Not all small farms have good tasting meat, either.
Quote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 01:41:58 PMQuote from: Aether on February 13, 2018, 12:52:08 PMQuote from: Eli on February 13, 2018, 12:33:05 PMQuote from: Aether on February 13, 2018, 12:27:06 PMFor someone with a health condition like mine, eliminating meat would reduce my protein options to virtually zero. Not until they manage to create some edible food substance that contains the required levels of protein with minimal to no levels of carbs, starches, sugars etc. and make it commercially available.What condition do you have?Something called Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth. If you wanna know:People usually get the beginning stages of it from antibiotics wiping out the good bacteria in their gut, which allows antibiotic resistant bacteria to start colonizing your intestines. It starts more in the colon, giving people IBS or even Colitis but with a very poor diet and general lifestyle it can make its way into your small intestine. Once that happens you can't really process sugar and carbs anymore because the bacteria (and fungi like yeast as well) feeds on it like crazy and it wreaks havoc on the rest of your body producing exotoxins and mycotoxins that circulate throughout your bloodsteam, which can give you all manner of problems like arthritis, fibromyalgia, migraines, muscle cramps, chronic fatigue and inflammation, depression and anxeity. Not to mention all the digestive problems you'll have.You can eliminate it with a very strict diet, high levels of probiotics, and anti-microbial supplements, but you have to go through hell during that process, since killing the overgrowth causes it to basically release all the toxins it was slowly secreting in a much bigger 'dose' you could say. Something called a Herxheimer reaction. Which could actually really damage your liver and kidneys so you have to be very careful. People with other infections diseases like Lyme disease go through the same process and it can actually kill you if you kill too much too fast with certain infections.So after a bit of research it looks like you'd be allowed some beans, tofu and nuts in your case. Lots of ripe fruits and non-starchy vegetables, with some honey to add flavour. That sounds pretty much exactly like my current diet. https://www.siboinfo.com/diet.htmlNo I can't have any of those. Especially the honey. I have an extremely severe case of SIBO. One of the absolute worst cases you can get tbh. If I was to eat any of those I would be in a lot of terrible pain. Trust me, I've done a lot of experimentation with which foods I can tolerate and I'm literally at the point where I can only tolerate poultry, fish, and a few vegetables like yellow squash and spinach.
I have a god-tier diet with very low sugar and no processed foods whatsoever.