"I don't believe in god but I'm not an atheist

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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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because atheism is a religion, too"

literally kys if you believe this


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2 thing I never discuss with people politic and religion.

I see the world differently from you Carsongen 


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2 thing I never discuss with people politic and religion.

I see the world differently from you Carsongen
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Atheism isn't a religion. But this "New Atheist" movement from guys like Richard Dawkins are turning atheism into a very bigoted philosophy.

It's no different than the bigotry and closed-mindedness that you see from fundamentalist religions. But instead of it being theocratic, empiricism and scientific materialism have become the new arbiter of truth for guys like Dawkins, and it's just as dangerous.


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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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2 thing I never discuss with people politic and religion.

I see the world differently from you Carsongen
I mean, I don't feel the need to bring up my lack of belief in conversation like others incessantly do, unless I'm directly asked about it. But I just hate people who try to distance themselves from "vocal atheists" by claiming they're not atheists in the first place. Like, if you don't believe in god/afterlife, you objectively are one. If you don't want to be tied to the fedora tippers, just don't act like one. Trying to claim you aren't an atheist in the first place just makes it worse.


 
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2 thing I never discuss with people politic and religion.

That's because you're inadequately prepared to defend your beliefs.


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I think a good way to explain this would be to say "I am not religious".


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2 thing I never discuss with people politic and religion.

I see the world differently from you Carsongen
I mean, I don't feel the need to bring up my lack of belief in conversation like others incessantly do, unless I'm directly asked about it. But I just hate people who try to distance themselves from "vocal atheists" by claiming they're not atheists in the first place. Like, if you don't believe in god/afterlife, you objectively are one. If you don't want to be tied to the fedora tippers, just don't act like one. Trying to claim you aren't an atheist in the first place just makes it worse.
mhmmm fascinating explanation op

Allow me to chew on this information for a bit 


 
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You either die a hero or live long enough to become Mythic..
*gets in agnostic chair*

*grabs popcorn*


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So... I guess I'm going to have to pick up after your horrendous mistakes on here too?
Logic kills.


 
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
2 thing I never discuss with people politic and religion.

That's because you're inadequately prepared to defend your beliefs.
Some people get tired of arguing how counter-terrorism operations can't be handled like conventional warfare and other assorted nonsense that you have to deal with outside of the internet and it's pseudo-intellectual based echo chambers.


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Some people get tired of arguing how counter-terrorism operations can't be handled like conventional warfare and other assorted nonsense that you have to deal with outside of the internet and it's pseudo-intellectual based echo chambers.

I'm sure that's not the reason Sean doesn't speak about religion or politics.

But I mean... I would hardly call the internet an echo chamber... pseudo-intellectual, sure.


 
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tldr version, stop being a pussy about your beliefs/lack of beliefs
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
Some people get tired of arguing how counter-terrorism operations can't be handled like conventional warfare and other assorted nonsense that you have to deal with outside of the internet and it's pseudo-intellectual based echo chambers.

I'm sure that's not the reason Sean doesn't speak about religion or politics.

But I mean... I would hardly call the internet an echo chamber... pseudo-intellectual, sure.
Do you go outside?
The internet forum demographic is a lot different than your average normie.
There's a lot more Kinders out there... and they breed... and worse, they vote... for Trump.


 
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You either die a hero or live long enough to become Mythic..
*gets in agnostic chair*

*grabs popcorn*
I said this once already before, but you cannot both believe and not believe at the same time, see the law of the excluded middle.

Agnostic/Gnostic are both stances on knowledge. Theist/Atheist are stances on faith.
If you believe in God but state that you cannot know of his existence, you're an agnostic theist.
If you do not believe in God but state that you cannot know if he doesn't exist, you're an agnostic atheist.
If you believe and claim to know God exists, you're an gnostic theist.
If you do not believe and claim to know God does not exist, you're an gnostic atheist.

If you are calling yourself an pure agnostic, you're an implicit atheist. See here the definition for implicit and explicit atheists.

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"Implicit atheism" is defined as "the absence of theistic belief without a conscious rejection of it", while "explicit atheism" is "the absence of theistic belief due to a conscious rejection of it"

tldr version, stop being a pussy about your beliefs/lack of beliefs

Seriously, all I said was Agnostic

I don't believe in god, I know that I can't prove he isn't real, and I can't prove he is. I don't know.

As such, i'm agnostic. So leave me alone okay?


 
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Do you go outside?
The internet forum demographic is a lot different than your average normie.

I still fail to see how that makes us an echo chamber. I mean, just on this site, you have feminists, anti-feminists, transgenders, atheist, theists, Libertarians, conservatives, liberals, anti-natalists and racists. Seems pretty diverse to me.

Although if you're simply referring to things like "there is no God" or "evolution is fact" and stuff then, yeah, I agree with you. But that's ultimately a good thing considering those things aren't even worth discussing.
 
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There's a lot more Kinders out there... and they breed... and worse, they vote... for Trump.

Don't get me started. I just found out a kid in my Law class is a Trump supported.

I was like, "Dude, you're Canadian. You have everything to lose and nothing to gain from admitting that."


 
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Do you go outside?
The internet forum demographic is a lot different than your average normie.

I still fail to see how that makes us an echo chamber. I mean, just on this site, you have feminists, anti-feminists, transgenders, atheist, theists, Libertarians, conservatives, liberals, anti-natalists and racists. Seems pretty diverse to me.

Although if you're simply referring to things like "there is no God" or "evolution is fact" and stuff then, yeah, I agree with you. But that's ultimately a good thing considering those things aren't even worth discussing.
 
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There's a lot more Kinders out there... and they breed... and worse, they vote... for Trump.

Don't get me started. I just found out a kid in my Law class is a Trump supported.

I was like, "Dude, you're Canadian. You have everything to lose and nothing to gain from admitting that."
Unless a website is tailored to conservative values, it is bound to have a progressive liberal bias.


 
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Unless a website is tailored to conservative values, it is bound to have a progressive liberal bias.

Tough shit, really. I still wouldn't consider us an echo chamber. Because most of us agree on a single thing? Nah. Liberals don't agree on everything.


 
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
Unless a website is tailored to conservative values, it is bound to have a progressive liberal bias.

Tough shit, really. I still wouldn't consider us an echo chamber. Because most of us agree on a single thing? Nah. Liberals don't agree on everything.
You're being literal.

And possibly Decimator Omega.


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The angel agreed to trade a set of white wings for the head of another demon. Overjoyed, the demon killed one of his own and plucked the head right off its still-warm body.

The angel then led the demon to heaven, where he underwent centuries of the cruelest tortures imaginable. Finally, the pain was so great that he lost consciousness - at which point his dark wings turned the promised shade of white.
yes but i also dont label myself as an atheist


 
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I am a practicing I don't give a shit. Whether or not there is a god isn't going to change how I am going to live my life.


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2 thing I never discuss with people politic and religion.

That's because you're inadequately prepared to defend your beliefs.
No I just don't seek out conflict. Only if I have to.


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tldr version, stop being a pussy about your beliefs/lack of beliefs
You can be pure agnostic tho. It's not hard to say that you don't know if there is a god, and there could be, but there also couldn't be. Stop trying to force people into your labels you fucking furry pedophile.


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To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
I am a practicing I don't give a shit. Whether or not there is a god isn't going to change how I am going to live my life.


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I am a practicing I don't give a shit. Whether or not there is a god isn't going to change how I am going to live my life.

That is perfect. Thank you. People have already said I am apathetic.


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Seriously, all I said was Agnostic

I don't believe in god, I know that I can't prove he isn't real, and I can't prove he is. I don't know.

As such, i'm agnostic. So leave me alone okay?
If you don't believe in God then you are by definition atheist.  You're just an agnostic atheist.