Tesla is currently two years away from releasing an economy model of the Tesla, and even the ones available now are competitively priced for the long-term benefits they provide.

Charging stations are due to become very common, and Tesla claims that they'll have chargers that are capable of charging the battery in two minutes. We used to think that battery life was the roadblock, but if electricity is readily available throughout the country, it no longer becomes such an issue. The cost of electricity is about a tenth of the price for gasoline, joule for joule, and there are increasingly more ways to harness electricity without burning fossil fuels. Electric cars have also proven to be significantly safer than gasoline-powered cars because there's no longer a huge engine directly in front of the driver seat to be slammed backwards during a collision.

So it might be an exaggeration, but I really do think that in 30-40 years we'll see gas-powered cars on the same level of novelty as rotary phones and blatant sexism in the workplace (the good ol' days).

There's a booty reference to be made here.

If I've learned one thing from you, it's that booty is everywhere. You just have to look.

Watch as in the future electricity prices skyrocket. GG economics.

Pretty much this. There is no such thing as "cheap for the consumer" in a capitalist system.

Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on October 18, 2014, 12:16:55 AM

Watch as in the future electricity prices skyrocket. GG economics.

Pretty much this. There is no such thing as "cheap for the consumer" in a capitalist system.

Hahahahahahahaha

Wait, you're serious.

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Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on October 18, 2014, 12:16:55 AM

Watch as in the future electricity prices skyrocket. GG economics.

Pretty much this. There is no such thing as "cheap for the consumer" in a capitalist system.

Capitalism is all about making things cheapest for the consumer by allowing and encouraging competition, though.

Cheaply built for them. But ripoff prices. Maybe where you live, you get cheap shit for cheap. Up here, we get cheap shit for expensive.

Electric-powered cars, along with numerous recharging stations, are only feasible in urban/suburban areas. Gas-powered cars will never be fully eclipsed by electric-powered ones, predominantly because consumers enjoy a variety of goods in the market. However, I can see what you're describing occurring on the small-scale, like in big cities perhaps

Electric-powered cars, along with numerous recharging stations, are only feasible in urban/suburban areas. Gas-powered cars will never be fully eclipsed by electric-powered ones, predominantly because consumers enjoy a variety of goods in the market. However, I can see what you're describing occurring on the small-scale, like in big cities perhaps

This was the same thought when gas-powered cars came around. There wouldn't be enough fueling stations, fuel is abundant enough, it's too expensive, etc. But we're seeing those changes happening now, and in a very short amount of time electric cars will be feasible throughout all but the most isolated areas.

Until I can get an electric powerd car for 30k and still have the same preformance as my Evo, or I get $100k for a P85 Model S, I'm not touching electric cars.

Depends on what you consider performance. Being able to accelerate fast? The Model D hits 60 in 3 seconds. Fuel economy? Current models can already go 275 miles. Safety? Their cars scored the highest available safety rating, and surpassed it. Racing? Electric cars are the future because of their ability to provide maximum torque at rest, and not having an engine and gas tank reduces weight significantly.

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Electric-powered cars, along with numerous recharging stations, are only feasible in urban/suburban areas. Gas-powered cars will never be fully eclipsed by electric-powered ones, predominantly because consumers enjoy a variety of goods in the market. However, I can see what you're describing occurring on the small-scale, like in big cities perhaps

This was the same thought when gas-powered cars came around. There wouldn't be enough fueling stations, fuel is abundant enough, it's too expensive, etc. But we're seeing those changes happening now, and in a very short amount of time electric cars will be feasible throughout all but the most isolated areas.

How about charging times, though? What is roughly the fastest?

The standard model that Tesla is going with is that at night you'll trickle-charge for several hours. They already have a device that can fully charge the car in 30 minutes, and they're working on a charger that will charge the entire battery in only a few minutes, comparable to filling a tank of gas.

Quote from: E̲n̲g̲a̲g̲e̲d̲T̲u̲r̲k̲e̲y̲ on October 18, 2014, 05:28:44 PM

The standard model that Tesla is going with is that at night you'll trickle-charge for several hours. They already have a device that can fully charge the car in 30 minutes, and they're working on a charger that will charge the entire battery in only a few minutes, comparable to filling a tank of gas.

That's a lot faster than I imagined, but is they really wanted to get massive support I think just switching the batteries at a station would be superior, and then you wouldn't need to replace your own batteries every three years or so.

Sharing batteries, that's an interesting idea. Aren't they huge and unwieldy though?

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Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on October 18, 2014, 12:16:55 AM

Watch as in the future electricity prices skyrocket. GG economics.

Pretty much this. There is no such thing as "cheap for the consumer" in a capitalist system.

frack me don't even get me started on the taxes.

Capitalism is all about making things cheapest for the consumer by allowing and encouraging competition, though.

Cheaply built for them. But ripoff prices. Maybe where you live, you get cheap shit for cheap. Up here, we get cheap shit for expensive.

That's more than likely due to taxes than it is actual cost.

Fuck me don't even get me started on the taxes.

Full electric motorsport is a pretty good while away, especially if you want to replace, say, Formula.