Quote from: SecondClass on June 11, 2016, 07:25:05 PMPablo Escobar would be a better president than Trumpthis whole "Hillary is a criminal" meme is irrelevantCould you be any more of a terrible person?I'm seriously appalled.
Pablo Escobar would be a better president than Trumpthis whole "Hillary is a criminal" meme is irrelevant
Quote from: challengerX on June 11, 2016, 07:34:20 PMQuote from: SecondClass on June 11, 2016, 07:25:05 PMPablo Escobar would be a better president than Trumpthis whole "Hillary is a criminal" meme is irrelevantCould you be any more of a terrible person?I'm seriously appalled.you're talking to a guy who would rather set ALL criminals on the loose than allow one innocent person be convicted of something
Quote from: SecondClass on June 11, 2016, 07:35:18 PMQuote from: challengerX on June 11, 2016, 07:34:20 PMQuote from: SecondClass on June 11, 2016, 07:25:05 PMPablo Escobar would be a better president than Trumpthis whole "Hillary is a criminal" meme is irrelevantCould you be any more of a terrible person?I'm seriously appalled.I'm not the one who literally thinks we should cherish discrimination."corruption is irrelevant"QuoteSecondClassIt's fine if soldiers die and we have a weaker military as long we end """discrimination""""There's nothing wrong with using drugs, or prostituting your body to get drugs"
Quote from: challengerX on June 11, 2016, 07:34:20 PMQuote from: SecondClass on June 11, 2016, 07:25:05 PMPablo Escobar would be a better president than Trumpthis whole "Hillary is a criminal" meme is irrelevantCould you be any more of a terrible person?I'm seriously appalled.I'm not the one who literally thinks we should cherish discrimination.
SecondClassIt's fine if soldiers die and we have a weaker military as long we end """discrimination"""
Hence "Crooked Hillary"Is anyone surprised at this point? It's a wonder how people support her without referencing Trump.
Quote from: Casper on June 11, 2016, 08:25:42 PMHence "Crooked Hillary"Is anyone surprised at this point? It's a wonder how people support her without referencing Trump.It's the only reason to support her. If Cruz or Kaisch somehow got the nomination, I'd be voting for them.
Quote from: SecondClass on June 11, 2016, 08:26:43 PMQuote from: Casper on June 11, 2016, 08:25:42 PMHence "Crooked Hillary"Is anyone surprised at this point? It's a wonder how people support her without referencing Trump.It's the only reason to support her. If Cruz or Kaisch somehow got the nomination, I'd be voting for them.cruz was easily worse than trump, if you look at what he planned to doyou can write off the other candidates as being incompetent, but cruz was legitimately dangerous, along with fiorina
Quote from: SecondClass on June 11, 2016, 08:26:43 PMQuote from: Casper on June 11, 2016, 08:25:42 PMHence "Crooked Hillary"Is anyone surprised at this point? It's a wonder how people support her without referencing Trump.It's the only reason to support her. If Cruz or Kaisch somehow got the nomination, I'd be voting for them.>Not wanting to watch Trump meme the establishment
cruz was easily worse than trump, if you look at what he planned to doyou can write off the other candidates as being incompetent, but cruz was legitimately dangerous, along with fiorina
Trump's policies would benefit corporate America and not the middle-class, despite his attempts to appear populist/anti-establishment.
Quote from: Verbatim on June 11, 2016, 08:29:18 PMcruz was easily worse than trump, if you look at what he planned to doyou can write off the other candidates as being incompetent, but cruz was legitimately dangerous, along with fiorinahow so
I never said that. I said that would be the moral thing, but in the name of pragmatism, we'd have to be immoral and condemn an innocent man.but I guess keep bringing this up incessantly in the future anyway lol
Quote from: SecondClass on June 11, 2016, 07:41:32 PMI never said that. I said that would be the moral thing, but in the name of pragmatism, we'd have to be immoral and condemn an innocent man.but I guess keep bringing this up incessantly in the future anyway lolYou do realise morality is about what we should do? If you're saying we should condemn an innocent man in the name of pragmatism, and then claiming the opposite is actually the moral choice, you don't fully understand the terms of your own argument.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on June 12, 2016, 10:55:47 AMQuote from: SecondClass on June 11, 2016, 07:41:32 PMI never said that. I said that would be the moral thing, but in the name of pragmatism, we'd have to be immoral and condemn an innocent man.but I guess keep bringing this up incessantly in the future anyway lolYou do realise morality is about what we should do? If you're saying we should condemn an innocent man in the name of pragmatism, and then claiming the opposite is actually the moral choice, you don't fully understand the terms of your own argument.No, it's not. Morality is about what's the right thing to do. Sometimes you have to do evil, fucked up shit. That necessity doesn't make it right.
Except we don't have the luxury of always doing the (hypothetical) first-best option.