Would you say this is an accurate description of capitalism?

Loaf · July 23, 2016, 06:18:56 AM

Capitalism: the desire to hoard money, not give your fair share to other people who need it, and say "fuck everyone who isn't me".

challengerX · July 23, 2016, 07:16:22 AM

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Loaf · July 23, 2016, 08:02:58 AM

Quote from: challengerX on July 23, 2016, 07:16:22 AM

No

Why?

Alternative Facts · July 23, 2016, 09:20:20 AM

I'd say it's a loaded statement. Not an accurate one.

Verbatim · July 23, 2016, 09:22:25 AM

Basically yeah.

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Pippen · July 23, 2016, 10:11:06 AM

Inaccurate, more opinionated than factual.

gats · July 23, 2016, 10:30:43 AM

Capitalism is forced labour for the poor which only benefits the ruling class

DAS B00T x2 · July 23, 2016, 11:04:50 AM

So then why do I pay taxes?
And just how much of my rewards for my labor are José and Tyreese owed for their "fair share"?

CIS · July 23, 2016, 11:48:14 AM

What you're describing is avarice, which is a personal flaw. Capitalism is merely an economic system in which the means of production are operated by private citizens for profit rather than by an entity like the state. It is, despite its flaws, the most successful economic system in human history.

Verbatim · July 23, 2016, 11:58:26 AM

Quote from: CIS on July 23, 2016, 11:48:14 AM

What you're describing is avarice, which is a personal flaw.

Enabled by capitalism.

CIS · July 23, 2016, 12:01:31 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on July 23, 2016, 11:58:26 AM

Quote from: CIS on July 23, 2016, 11:48:14 AM
What you're describing is avarice, which is a personal flaw.
Enabled by capitalism.

Avarice is a human flaw that predates capitalism and is recorded throughout human history. That's something that will never go away.

Verbatim · July 23, 2016, 12:03:44 PM

Quote from: CIS on July 23, 2016, 12:01:31 PM

Avarice is a human flaw that predates capitalism and is recorded throughout human history. That's something that will never go away.

Do you know what "enabled" means?

It doesn't mean "created" or "caused by."

More Than Mortal · July 24, 2016, 12:50:01 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on July 23, 2016, 11:58:26 AM

Quote from: CIS on July 23, 2016, 11:48:14 AM
What you're describing is avarice, which is a personal flaw.
Enabled by capitalism.

What do you think the money of the rich does? Sit under a mattress, or be invested?

As good a system as it is at perpetuating avarice, it's exactly that kind of avarice that led to early funding of things like variolation which eventually led to inoculations and vaccines.

I honestly can't take socialists seriously until they come up with a serious answer as to how important shit should be managed, funded, marketed or distributed. I'm yet to come across an answer that isn't just some vague insinuation that the system sucks.

Of course the system sucks; we just have a lot more concrete information on it than we do socialism, and a lot more answers to possible questions

Azumarill · July 24, 2016, 01:42:59 PM

this is the closest thing to a coherent post ive ever seen loaf make

Sαndtrap · July 24, 2016, 03:35:18 PM

Na. Go big or go home sums it up.

The main point being that some chuckle nuts don't know when to stop going too big.

Mordo · July 24, 2016, 04:15:55 PM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on July 24, 2016, 12:50:01 AM

I honestly can't take socialists seriously until they come up with a serious answer as to how important shit should be managed, funded, marketed or distributed. I'm yet to come across an answer that isn't just some vague insinuation that the system sucks.

Genghis Khan · July 25, 2016, 08:37:54 AM

Michael Moore thinks it's legalized greed.

Gatortag · July 25, 2016, 01:48:51 PM

>Implying I should share money I earned myself

Verbatim · July 25, 2016, 02:05:46 PM

Quote from: Josh55886 on July 25, 2016, 01:48:51 PM

>Implying I should share money I earned myself

Yes, you should.

Gatortag · July 25, 2016, 02:17:42 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on July 25, 2016, 02:05:46 PM

Quote from: Josh55886 on July 25, 2016, 01:48:51 PM
>Implying I should share money I earned myself
Yes, you should.

Why? It's a nice thing to do. But it's mine. I take care of myself, you can do the same for yourself without leeching off government handouts, right?

Verbatim · July 25, 2016, 02:20:25 PM

Quote from: Josh55886 on July 25, 2016, 02:17:42 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on July 25, 2016, 02:05:46 PM
Quote from: Josh55886 on July 25, 2016, 01:48:51 PM
>Implying I should share money I earned myself
Yes, you should.
Why? It's a nice thing to do.

Your entire behavior on this planet should be based solely on "nice things to do."

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