I've never played that.

But yeah, your conception of morality is pretty childish. I might have thought the same exact way--when I was even or eight.

Someone define what the greater good is and give me a good reason why we should sacrifice our individuality for it. Almost every collectivist ideology whether it's the various schools of Marxism or Fascism seems to have a different conception of what it is.

Quote from: CIS on February 02, 2016, 04:31:38 PM

Someone define what the greater good is and give me a good reason why we should sacrifice our individuality for it. Almost every collectivist ideology whether it's the various schools of Marxism or Fascism seems to have a different conception of what it is.

i feel like i already explained

The "greater good" is a relative term. The greatest possible good that I've been able to come up with is if we all peacefully drove ourselves to extinction by means of reproductive abstinence (no humans = no suffering).

How is the human race going extinct a good thing? That would be awful.

As long as we persist as a species, however, it would be in our collective best interest to make the world the best and most comfortable place to live in possible. Every individual is entitled to a comfortable existence--because they never asked to be here in the first place. When you move to China, you are not entitled to anything (beyond your basic human rights, which can be debated upon), because you made the choice to go there.

Everything up to the second sentence sounded reasonable. Just because you went to a nation like China upon your own accord doesn't mean you shouldn't feel feel secure in knowing that you're not going to get thrown in jail for holding the wrong opinions. Also, how are we all entitled to a comfortable existence simply by being born? Isn't that something we have to obtain for ourselves?

You don't waltz into other people's houses and expect to be handed free shit.

However, it doesn't quite work that way when you never personally made the choice to be here.

Well no shit you shouldn't waltz into people's houses and expect free things.   
 

When you're forced into an imposition such as life, you'd better have some grade-A compensation. That is the greater good: the mitigation of all of life's potential disutility or discomfort. I don't see how you could contest this.

Why are we entitled to "grade-A compensation" for simply being alive?

 

Quote from: CIS on February 02, 2016, 04:54:33 PM

How is the human race going extinct a good thing? That would be awful.

Why do you keep asking questions that are already answered in the post that you're fucking quoting?

No humans = no suffering.

Extinction would be the best thing ever.

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Everything up to the second sentence sounded reasonable. Just because you went to a nation like China upon your own accord doesn't mean you shouldn't feel feel secure in knowing that you're not going to get thrown in jail for holding the wrong opinions.

That's one of those basic human rights that I fucking mentioned.

I'm stopping here. Learn how to read posts before you respond to them. This is fucking stupid.

No, the human race going extinct wouldn't be the best thing ever. And if I took your post out of context then just explain how I did. I lack formal education and that's something I won't deny. There's no need to get mad over it.

EDIT: I also didn't see you mentioning that freedom of speech/expression was a basic human right and you did say that one's human rights are up for debate.

Verb, I wonder why you haven't moved to Finland yet.

Apart from the language (and even then most speak English because of their ridiculously difficult tongue), they have no homeless folk because welfare, you get paid to get multiple degrees in whatever you're choosing, and the mega rich get taxed around 50% to fund it all.

What the fuck is going on in this thread?