Is it because he's a Jew and they own a large control of media?
Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on February 01, 2016, 09:02:16 PMIs it because he's a Jew and they own a large control of media?Ummm... No.
Even if you hate his policies, you know he's a good person.
It isn't charity to clothe the poor with another man's money, it's just theft.
Quote from: Dissonant and Repentant on February 01, 2016, 10:34:53 PMIt isn't charity to clothe the poor with another man's money, it's just theft.I don't disagree.I mean like, he wants to hep people, but he's all wrong and unethical in how he wants to do it.
Quote from: BUILD DAS WALL on February 01, 2016, 10:40:17 PMQuote from: Dissonant and Repentant on February 01, 2016, 10:34:53 PMIt isn't charity to clothe the poor with another man's money, it's just theft.I don't disagree.I mean like, he wants to hep people, but he's all wrong and unethical in how he wants to do it.People can't be expected to be good or charitable, so you basically have to force them to be.Greater good > Your individual rights. Sorry.
Also people are naturally charitable and good, hence the majority of support for homeless and needy coming from soup kitchens and other community programs.
Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on February 01, 2016, 11:38:16 PMAlso people are naturally charitable and good, hence the majority of support for homeless and needy coming from soup kitchens and other community programs.Yet they're still homeless and needy, in droves.People aren't charitable or good enough.
Wow, it's almost like problems can't be solved with the snap of a finger to turn everyone into middle class Americans.
I mean shit man, I only make 21k BEFORE TAXES a year. If I elect Bernie, can I expect to be given another 30k tax free to brig my gross income up to the national average?
Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on February 01, 2016, 11:41:08 PMWow, it's almost like problems can't be solved with the snap of a finger to turn everyone into middle class Americans.They could, if we killed the rich.
Quote from: Verbatim on February 01, 2016, 11:41:53 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on February 01, 2016, 11:41:08 PMWow, it's almost like problems can't be solved with the snap of a finger to turn everyone into middle class Americans.They could, if we killed the rich.Then what happens when you run out of money from the rich?
Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on February 01, 2016, 11:46:01 PMQuote from: Verbatim on February 01, 2016, 11:41:53 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on February 01, 2016, 11:41:08 PMWow, it's almost like problems can't be solved with the snap of a finger to turn everyone into middle class Americans.They could, if we killed the rich.Then what happens when you run out of money from the rich?you don't "run out" of money, geniusit circulates
Interesting to see how it's gonna circulate when you've just killed off all the job creators, but okay.
Oh, so you're just gonna go in and boot anyone that tries to hold onto their money in significant sums, or when they become successful?
Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on February 02, 2016, 12:06:21 AMInteresting to see how it's gonna circulate when you've just killed off all the job creators, but okay.LOLWe know there's work to be done. We don't need an oligarchy of fat, old, rich fuckers to realize that we need to create stuff. We can figure that out on our own, without them. They don't create shit. They don't build shit.
No, we'll just tax them. Because nobody needs more than they need, period. It's not complicated.
Today I learned that letting rich people exist = oligarchy. Good shit friend.
Glad to know you know everything about everyone and that everybody should function as drones at your bidding, master.
Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on February 02, 2016, 12:12:59 AMToday I learned that letting rich people exist = oligarchy. Good shit friend.Corporatocracy, aristocracy, plutocracy. Whatever you want to call it.
Not MY bidding. The collective's bidding.
So the collective is some mysterious greater being, or it's the fantasy of a group of individuals?
Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on February 02, 2016, 12:19:35 AMSo the collective is some mysterious greater being, or it's the fantasy of a group of individuals?It's this mysterious notion called the "human race."From the basic philosophical perspective that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
What about when the needs of the few help the needs of the many more than sacrificing the needs of the few, make the needs of the few more than the needs of the many?
Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on February 02, 2016, 12:22:39 AMWhat about when the needs of the few help the needs of the many more than sacrificing the needs of the few, make the needs of the few more than the needs of the many?they don't
Quote from: Verbatim on February 02, 2016, 12:23:56 AMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on February 02, 2016, 12:22:39 AMWhat about when the needs of the few help the needs of the many more than sacrificing the needs of the few, make the needs of the few more than the needs of the many?they don'tCompelling like the rest of your points.