Quote from: Tackel on October 26, 2015, 06:28:22 PMWhy should we accept transgenders if they can't even accept themselves?Yeah tbh we should basically just kill everyone that has self-confidence issuesGenocide when?This also may have set a new record for the dumbest argument I've ever heard against trans individuals. Good job.
Why should we accept transgenders if they can't even accept themselves?
Quote from: Luciana on October 26, 2015, 07:21:06 PMGoing complete opposite end of the spectrum is never good to reinforce your points.Calm down.I mean, there's a literary technique for that, exactlyBut if you say so, lad
Going complete opposite end of the spectrum is never good to reinforce your points.Calm down.
Quote from: Cindo on October 26, 2015, 08:07:00 PMQuote from: Verbatim on October 26, 2015, 06:34:42 PMQuote from: Cindo on October 26, 2015, 06:31:34 PMQuote from: Verbatim on October 26, 2015, 06:28:59 PMQuote from: Cindo on October 26, 2015, 06:24:11 PMPeople always try to make arguments purely based on fact and removing all emotion whatsoever from the equationis that not how it should be doneyou wanna answer my question orI literally just had a discussion on why that's stupidyou didn't explain it very well, 'cause emotional appeals are always fallacious--that's what i've been taught for the past six or seven years
Quote from: Verbatim on October 26, 2015, 06:34:42 PMQuote from: Cindo on October 26, 2015, 06:31:34 PMQuote from: Verbatim on October 26, 2015, 06:28:59 PMQuote from: Cindo on October 26, 2015, 06:24:11 PMPeople always try to make arguments purely based on fact and removing all emotion whatsoever from the equationis that not how it should be doneyou wanna answer my question orI literally just had a discussion on why that's stupid
Quote from: Cindo on October 26, 2015, 06:31:34 PMQuote from: Verbatim on October 26, 2015, 06:28:59 PMQuote from: Cindo on October 26, 2015, 06:24:11 PMPeople always try to make arguments purely based on fact and removing all emotion whatsoever from the equationis that not how it should be doneyou wanna answer my question or
Quote from: Verbatim on October 26, 2015, 06:28:59 PMQuote from: Cindo on October 26, 2015, 06:24:11 PMPeople always try to make arguments purely based on fact and removing all emotion whatsoever from the equationis that not how it should be done
Quote from: Cindo on October 26, 2015, 06:24:11 PMPeople always try to make arguments purely based on fact and removing all emotion whatsoever from the equationis that not how it should be done
People always try to make arguments purely based on fact and removing all emotion whatsoever from the equation
Quote from: Cindo on October 26, 2015, 08:06:40 PMQuote from: Luciana on October 26, 2015, 07:21:06 PMGoing complete opposite end of the spectrum is never good to reinforce your points.Calm down.I mean, there's a literary technique for that, exactlyBut if you say so, ladWhat's the technique? The thing I just stated or is there a specific name for it? It's not a very good one in my opinion.Just don't get so mad >:L
Quote from: Luciana on October 26, 2015, 08:12:28 PMQuote from: Cindo on October 26, 2015, 08:06:40 PMQuote from: Luciana on October 26, 2015, 07:21:06 PMGoing complete opposite end of the spectrum is never good to reinforce your points.Calm down.I mean, there's a literary technique for that, exactlyBut if you say so, ladWhat's the technique? The thing I just stated or is there a specific name for it? It's not a very good one in my opinion.Just don't get so mad >:Lit's called hyperbole
Quote from: Luciana on October 26, 2015, 08:12:28 PMQuote from: Cindo on October 26, 2015, 08:06:40 PMQuote from: Luciana on October 26, 2015, 07:21:06 PMGoing complete opposite end of the spectrum is never good to reinforce your points.Calm down.I mean, there's a literary technique for that, exactlyBut if you say so, ladWhat's the technique? The thing I just stated or is there a specific name for it? It's not a very good one in my opinion.Just don't get so mad >:LHyperbole, ladAn overstatement or great exaggeration for effectIn this case, for the effect of highlighting how shit of an argument that was
Quote from: Verbatim on October 26, 2015, 08:08:23 PMQuote from: Cindo on October 26, 2015, 08:07:00 PMQuote from: Verbatim on October 26, 2015, 06:34:42 PMQuote from: Cindo on October 26, 2015, 06:31:34 PMQuote from: Verbatim on October 26, 2015, 06:28:59 PMQuote from: Cindo on October 26, 2015, 06:24:11 PMPeople always try to make arguments purely based on fact and removing all emotion whatsoever from the equationis that not how it should be doneyou wanna answer my question orI literally just had a discussion on why that's stupidyou didn't explain it very well, 'cause emotional appeals are always fallacious--that's what i've been taught for the past six or seven yearsI'm not saying we should base everything purely on emotion, I'm saying that pretending as if we should make decisions without letting emotions influence us in any capacity whatsoever is ridiculously stupid.Making decisions based purely on emotion is stupid, more often than not. Making judgments without saying that emotions are factored in is equally as stupid, however.
Quote from: Tackel on October 26, 2015, 08:16:02 PMIt will bring out the best results to not have emotion involved. Imagine how much the human race could accomplish if emotion wasn't a factor in decision making.So if we operated off of Sociopathic principles?
It will bring out the best results to not have emotion involved. Imagine how much the human race could accomplish if emotion wasn't a factor in decision making.
Does anyone else see Chally completely opposed to transition and then remember how SecondClass acts?Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........
Quote from: SoporificSlash on October 26, 2015, 08:17:31 PMQuote from: Tackel on October 26, 2015, 08:16:02 PMIt will bring out the best results to not have emotion involved. Imagine how much the human race could accomplish if emotion wasn't a factor in decision making.So if we operated off of Sociopathic principles?Imagine if the United States still had slavery as a labor force. We'd be able to achieve and thrive economically much more. (just look at China, which is a small gap from slavery)
Quote from: Tackel on October 26, 2015, 08:20:08 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on October 26, 2015, 08:17:31 PMQuote from: Tackel on October 26, 2015, 08:16:02 PMIt will bring out the best results to not have emotion involved. Imagine how much the human race could accomplish if emotion wasn't a factor in decision making.So if we operated off of Sociopathic principles?Imagine if the United States still had slavery as a labor force. We'd be able to achieve and thrive economically much more. (just look at China, which is a small gap from slavery)I can't tell if you're being serious
Quote from: Tackel on October 26, 2015, 08:20:08 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on October 26, 2015, 08:17:31 PMQuote from: Tackel on October 26, 2015, 08:16:02 PMIt will bring out the best results to not have emotion involved. Imagine how much the human race could accomplish if emotion wasn't a factor in decision making.So if we operated off of Sociopathic principles?Imagine if the United States still had slavery as a labor force. We'd be able to achieve and thrive economically much more. (just look at China, which is a small gap from slavery)Why does thriving economically matter?
Quote from: Cindo on October 26, 2015, 06:31:09 PMQuote from: Tackel on October 26, 2015, 06:28:22 PMWhy should we accept transgenders if they can't even accept themselves?Yeah tbh we should basically just kill everyone that has self-confidence issuesGenocide when?This also may have set a new record for the dumbest argument I've ever heard against trans individuals. Good job.When did I ever say kill them? Calm down their Hitler.Transgenders can't accept the body they are born with, so why are we then expected to accept them when they can't even accept themselves?Double standards aren't good tbh fam.
Quote from: Tsirist on October 26, 2015, 08:24:08 PMQuote from: Tackel on October 26, 2015, 08:20:08 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on October 26, 2015, 08:17:31 PMQuote from: Tackel on October 26, 2015, 08:16:02 PMIt will bring out the best results to not have emotion involved. Imagine how much the human race could accomplish if emotion wasn't a factor in decision making.So if we operated off of Sociopathic principles?Imagine if the United States still had slavery as a labor force. We'd be able to achieve and thrive economically much more. (just look at China, which is a small gap from slavery)Why does thriving economically matter?>Being ths dropdead retarded.
Quote from: Tackel on October 26, 2015, 08:26:06 PMQuote from: Tsirist on October 26, 2015, 08:24:08 PMQuote from: Tackel on October 26, 2015, 08:20:08 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on October 26, 2015, 08:17:31 PMQuote from: Tackel on October 26, 2015, 08:16:02 PMIt will bring out the best results to not have emotion involved. Imagine how much the human race could accomplish if emotion wasn't a factor in decision making.So if we operated off of Sociopathic principles?Imagine if the United States still had slavery as a labor force. We'd be able to achieve and thrive economically much more. (just look at China, which is a small gap from slavery)Why does thriving economically matter?>Being ths dropdead retarded.No answer? Come on. Entertain me. Are you afraid to stumble into a trap or something?
Quote from: Tsirist on October 26, 2015, 08:26:23 PMQuote from: Tackel on October 26, 2015, 08:26:06 PMQuote from: Tsirist on October 26, 2015, 08:24:08 PMQuote from: Tackel on October 26, 2015, 08:20:08 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on October 26, 2015, 08:17:31 PMQuote from: Tackel on October 26, 2015, 08:16:02 PMIt will bring out the best results to not have emotion involved. Imagine how much the human race could accomplish if emotion wasn't a factor in decision making.So if we operated off of Sociopathic principles?Imagine if the United States still had slavery as a labor force. We'd be able to achieve and thrive economically much more. (just look at China, which is a small gap from slavery)Why does thriving economically matter?>Being ths dropdead retarded.No answer? Come on. Entertain me. Are you afraid to stumble into a trap or something?Uhhhh"Trap" is a slur
Quote from: Tackel on October 26, 2015, 08:12:06 PMQuote from: Cindo on October 26, 2015, 06:31:09 PMQuote from: Tackel on October 26, 2015, 06:28:22 PMWhy should we accept transgenders if they can't even accept themselves?Yeah tbh we should basically just kill everyone that has self-confidence issuesGenocide when?This also may have set a new record for the dumbest argument I've ever heard against trans individuals. Good job.When did I ever say kill them? Calm down their Hitler.Transgenders can't accept the body they are born with, so why are we then expected to accept them when they can't even accept themselves?Double standards aren't good tbh fam.Kinda silly thinkingI am trying to accept myself, just because I'm identifying as female even though I'm biologically male, doesn't mean I'm not trying to accept that I'm trans and that I have to live with it. It's much easier for me to do this when I don't have people thinking I must've been abused as a kid. Because that's silly, and wrong. I'm not sure where you got that thinking from in the first place.I am of course assuming that when you say "accepting themselves", you're talking about trans people not identifying as their biological sex. I'm not sure what else you'd mean by that.
Quote from: Fruitcake on October 26, 2015, 08:26:12 PMQuote from: Tackel on October 26, 2015, 08:12:06 PMQuote from: Cindo on October 26, 2015, 06:31:09 PMQuote from: Tackel on October 26, 2015, 06:28:22 PMWhy should we accept transgenders if they can't even accept themselves?Yeah tbh we should basically just kill everyone that has self-confidence issuesGenocide when?This also may have set a new record for the dumbest argument I've ever heard against trans individuals. Good job.When did I ever say kill them? Calm down their Hitler.Transgenders can't accept the body they are born with, so why are we then expected to accept them when they can't even accept themselves?Double standards aren't good tbh fam.Kinda silly thinkingI am trying to accept myself, just because I'm identifying as female even though I'm biologically male, doesn't mean I'm not trying to accept that I'm trans and that I have to live with it. It's much easier for me to do this when I don't have people thinking I must've been abused as a kid. Because that's silly, and wrong. I'm not sure where you got that thinking from in the first place.I am of course assuming that when you say "accepting themselves", you're talking about trans people not identifying as their biological sex. I'm not sure what else you'd mean by that.So you can't accept that you are a born male. Why are we then expected to accept you, when you can even accept your biological gender?That's like saying you're a magical pony instead of a human. But then you say you accept that you think of yourself as a magical pony. What you need to do is accept yourself as a human, and not a magical pony. You will never be a magical pony. It doesn't matter how much surgery you get to make yourself look like a pony. You will alway be a human. A freak of a human, but a human nonetheless.Double standards tbh fam.
>Being ths dropdead retarded.
do you, like, walk around with a big flashing sign that says "cunt" on top of your forehead or something?Because, I mean, I think that may very well be the only way to make it more obvious.
So you can't accept that you are a born male. Why are we then expected to accept you, when you can even accept your biological gender?That's like saying you're a magical pony instead of a human. But then you say you accept that you think of yourself as a magical pony. What you need to do is accept yourself as a human, and not a magical pony. You will never be a magical pony. It doesn't matter how much surgery you get to make yourself look like a pony. You will alway be a human. A freak of a human, but a human nonetheless.Double standards tbh fam.
Quote from: Tackel on October 26, 2015, 08:26:06 PM>Being ths dropdead retarded.Quote from: Cindo on October 26, 2015, 08:36:22 PM do you, like, walk around with a big flashing sign that says "cunt" on top of your forehead or something?Because, I mean, I think that may very well be the only way to make it more obvious.oohhhhhyou guys are gonna get in trooouble
EhI'll take the hit if calling someone who calls trans individuals "freaks of humans" a cunt warrants that.
Quote from: Tackel on October 26, 2015, 08:35:15 PMQuote from: Fruitcake on October 26, 2015, 08:26:12 PMQuote from: Tackel on October 26, 2015, 08:12:06 PMQuote from: Cindo on October 26, 2015, 06:31:09 PMQuote from: Tackel on October 26, 2015, 06:28:22 PMWhy should we accept transgenders if they can't even accept themselves?Yeah tbh we should basically just kill everyone that has self-confidence issuesGenocide when?This also may have set a new record for the dumbest argument I've ever heard against trans individuals. Good job.When did I ever say kill them? Calm down their Hitler.Transgenders can't accept the body they are born with, so why are we then expected to accept them when they can't even accept themselves?Double standards aren't good tbh fam.Kinda silly thinkingI am trying to accept myself, just because I'm identifying as female even though I'm biologically male, doesn't mean I'm not trying to accept that I'm trans and that I have to live with it. It's much easier for me to do this when I don't have people thinking I must've been abused as a kid. Because that's silly, and wrong. I'm not sure where you got that thinking from in the first place.I am of course assuming that when you say "accepting themselves", you're talking about trans people not identifying as their biological sex. I'm not sure what else you'd mean by that.So you can't accept that you are a born male. Why are we then expected to accept you, when you can even accept your biological gender?That's like saying you're a magical pony instead of a human. But then you say you accept that you think of yourself as a magical pony. What you need to do is accept yourself as a human, and not a magical pony. You will never be a magical pony. It doesn't matter how much surgery you get to make yourself look like a pony. You will alway be a human. A freak of a human, but a human nonetheless.Double standards tbh fam.So do you, like, walk around with a big flashing sign that says "cunt" on top of your forehead or something?Because, I mean, I think that may very well be the only way to make it more obvious.
Quote from: Tackel on October 26, 2015, 08:35:15 PMSo you can't accept that you are a born male. Why are we then expected to accept you, when you can even accept your biological gender?That's like saying you're a magical pony instead of a human. But then you say you accept that you think of yourself as a magical pony. What you need to do is accept yourself as a human, and not a magical pony. You will never be a magical pony. It doesn't matter how much surgery you get to make yourself look like a pony. You will alway be a human. A freak of a human, but a human nonetheless.Double standards tbh fam.Holy shit you're pretty dissonant in the brain if you can't even consider this in the context of your own priorities. Consider that if a gender dysphoric individual is as fucked up as you think, they will not be able to contribute to the economy as effectively as normal people are. If you do not make strides to help/accept them, their condition will worsen and they may even become economically useless by killing themselves. Otherwise they just don't operate at an efficient level because of what they have to deal with.In the interest of the economy, should we not humor them? Considering how large a portion of the population they represent?
Quote from: Tsirist on October 26, 2015, 08:26:23 PMQuote from: Tackel on October 26, 2015, 08:26:06 PMQuote from: Tsirist on October 26, 2015, 08:24:08 PMQuote from: Tackel on October 26, 2015, 08:20:08 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on October 26, 2015, 08:17:31 PMQuote from: Tackel on October 26, 2015, 08:16:02 PMIt will bring out the best results to not have emotion involved. Imagine how much the human race could accomplish if emotion wasn't a factor in decision making.So if we operated off of Sociopathic principles?Imagine if the United States still had slavery as a labor force. We'd be able to achieve and thrive economically much more. (just look at China, which is a small gap from slavery)Why does thriving economically matter?>Being ths dropdead retarded.No answer? Come on. Entertain me. Are you afraid to stumble into a trap or something?Look at Greece.
Why should transgenderism be something we "accept"?
