Oh cool, so he gets to call me a spaz and shitpost till his heart's content but my post ends up getting censored?

Nice one.

Quote from: challengerX on October 26, 2015, 12:45:49 PM

I said it's a bandaid fix at best. That it's a shitty excuse for a solution. Not that we should scrap it.

Then if you can't come up with a better solution, or even a better alternative, what is this thread's function other than to whine impotently?

He thinks there's some societal effort to curb research because X

Lol

Transgenderism is mainly a mental disorder. Yes, some people truly just feel they are in the wrong body, but that's a minority. Most have this type of thought process due to mental/physical abuse and scarring. It is not something that should be shunned, but it is not something we should be saying "Oh that's who they are".

Help them work through it. We should treat it no different than to how we treat other mental disorders.

OT: And why should the reason not be "because it makes people happy"? Please, I'd love to get a good reason for that. So many people love debating against transgenders and justifying bigotry because they "don't want to just make them feel better," but why not? While this isn't the crux of the argument, I'd really love to hear a legitimate reason behind this, because it's really just a weak platform to stand on to justify hate speech and bigotry.

And yes, before you fire back with that "WELL HOW AM I BEING A BIGOT?!?!" shit, disrespecting transgenders, saying that you shouldn't have to "adjust" your poor self to their preferred pronouns and names (I know, I know, it's such an incredible hardship) and saying that they're still men/women (depending on their start/finish) is transphobic and bigoted. Asking questions isn't, but asking questions purely with the intent to ignore the responses as "SJW PC bullshit" and fire back with gay jokes is. It's really not that difficult to tell when someone is asking questions about trans folks because they're open-minded or legitimately curious about that issue as opposed to when someone's just asking questions to make fun of the opposing sides and attempt to poke holes in scientific and psychiatric fact because trans people make them uncomfortable. Trust me, you're not as smart as you think.

And yeah, that's pretty much what the anti-arguments boil down to: "this makes me uncomfortable so I don't like it." It's the same shit the gay community went through years ago. Now people are fine with 'em, sure, but it wasn't that long ago that "homophilia" was classified as a mental illness and was believed to be infectious by many.

I love how people act like "logic" is some big trump card and that emotions should have no play in anything. "HURR DURR WELL YOU CAN ONLY JUSTIFY THIS FROM AN EMOTIONAL STANDPOINT AND NOT A PURELY LOGICAL ONE SO IT DOESN'T EXIST AND I'M GONNA KEEP BEING AN ASSHOLE." Sorry, is the human race populated entirely full of sociopaths? It isn't, since that was a rhetorical question, and trying to act like emotion doesn't play a roll in anything we do and that it excuses you being a bigoted cuntbag just because it's not a purely logical action - especially in the realm of MENTAL DISEASES THAT ARE HEAVILY EFFECTED BY A PERSON'S EMOTIONS - is just fucking stupid, narrow-minded, and a poor justification for hatespeech, as most other things revolving around transphobia are.

I could go more in-depth about the divide between sex and gender and the immense effect that gender has one one's social standing and role as well as the presence of body dysphoria correlating gender dysphoria and the hatred one has of feeling "wrong" as myself and people like me experience every day. I could go into the incredibly high suicide rates as well as devolution into addiction on drugs and alcohol caused by feeling out-of-place most forwardly due to a society that says these things are "unnatural" and holds a line of thought that it's somehow "wrong" to respect other people just because that makes them personally feel uncomfortable due to their rapidly-falling-behind viewpoints on the world, but I won't because that'd be going on a tangent.

Instead, let me ask you this:

What if you woke up tomorrow to discover that you had two X-chromosomes? You had all your life, in fact. Now, that hadn't effected much, as you'd still been born with functional male genitalia and your body had naturally produced high amounts of testosterone due to that, but...you'd be biologically female! You'd have female chromosomes! Would you immediately start identifying as a woman and want restructive surgery just to conform to what was "biologically" correct?

Probably not, because gender is more than the shit you learned in 9th grade biology.

This is why I love these threads. They always end in spergfests.

Try to word your disagreements a little more eloquently, with less of the attacks.

Is it wrong that I'm sad that Chally didn't desperately pick apart my post before he got bant?

No, it's entertaining to watch Chally go on self-righteous rants about how everyone except for him in the thread is wrong.

Quote from: Mr TruMeta Madman Desty👌 on October 26, 2015, 04:45:10 PM

Try to word your disagreements a little more eloquently, with less of the attacks.

Nah

That's Psy's edit. The post originally just contained an incoherent mess of insults at a particular user that wasn't you.