Right, okay, might as well make some half-assed non-effort post to at least point out how fuckin' stupid this all is.

-Saying that people who don't hate Islam are ignorant is just hilariously ironic. The area had been war-torn and plagued by foreign invasions for decades, it's probably not gonna be the pinnacle of stability.
-"Handouts"? What, like, literally the shittiest land available at the time, and then being moved off of it again once oil was discovered on it? There's a reason that native americans are now pretty much the smallest minority in the world and, hint hint, it's not because of their culture. Might have something to do with systematic genocide over a couple centuries, though.
-And yet again, you miss the point as to how India became so poor-off. As a hint, Gandhi wasn't praised because India was doing fantastic at the time.
-Seriously, do you not understand what Colonialism was? Because I'm pretty much 100% certain that you don't understand what Colonialism was.
-Guess we should probably condemn the scandinavian countries and their glorification of viking culture, too, huh? After all, death metal bands like Mayhem encourage violence, black magic, and the burning of churches. Oh, and we should probably get rid of those evil violent video games too, huh?

I find it almost terrifying that being proud of your nation's accomplishments isn't a majority view. The traditional European way of life with European technology is fucking fantastic.

I find it almost terrifying that being proud of your nation's accomplishments isn't a majority view. The traditional European way of life with European technology is fucking fantastic.

Traditional European way of life can suck a fuck tbh

Christian sexual values pls go and stay go

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Quote from: Cadenza on December 12, 2015, 04:31:22 AM

I find it almost terrifying that being proud of your nation's accomplishments isn't a majority view. The traditional European way of life with European technology is fucking fantastic.

Traditional European way of life can suck a fuck tbh

Christian sexual values pls go and stay go

Care to explain a bit more?

>Negative female societal expectations for sex juxtaposed with a positive male societal expectation for sex
>Social stigmatism against sexuality, often equated as worse than violence
>Little acknowledgement of asexuality, virginity being held as something bad to have to men and bad to lose for women
>The entire concept of physical virginity in women
>Expectations to have kids
>Disapproval of casual sex
>Disapproval of group sex
>Disapproval of polyamory from both a sexual and romantic standpoint

Pls go and stay go

dude white people suck lmao

I find it almost terrifying that being proud of your nation's accomplishments isn't a majority view. The traditional European way of life with European technology is fucking fantastic.

Here's a question for you.

Why should you be proud of your nation's accomplishments?

In most cases, pride is and should be reserved for something you accomplish. You build something that's really damn good? You're gonna be prideful about it because it was either difficult to accomplish or it came out fantastic. Or both. But you're prideful over it because it was you who did it.

Why the fuck should you be prideful over a birthright? You didn't even attain it through any effort whatsover. You just happened to stumble on it because of the circumstances you were born in. It's almost like an accident, really.

"Proud of your nation's accomplishments."

"Hey, good job dead guys behind me that allowed me to be born in this country. I'm just gonna dick ride and take pride in past accomplishments I did literally nothing to attain other than being born on a patch of earth."

Give me a break. That's some human tier stupidity in action right there.

Quote from: Cadenza on December 12, 2015, 04:31:22 AM

I find it almost terrifying that being proud of your nation's accomplishments isn't a majority view. The traditional European way of life with European technology is fucking fantastic.

Here's a question for you.

Why should you be proud of your nation's accomplishments?

In most cases, pride is and should be reserved for something you accomplish. You build something that's really damn good? You're gonna be prideful about it because it was either difficult to accomplish or it came out fantastic. Or both. But you're prideful over it because it was you who did it.

Why the fuck should you be prideful over a birthright? You didn't even attain it through any effort whatsover. You just happened to stumble on it because of the circumstances you were born in. It's almost like an accident, really.

"Proud of your nation's accomplishments."

"Hey, good job dead guys behind me that allowed me to be born in this country. I'm just gonna dick ride and take pride in past accomplishments I did literally nothing to attain other than being born on a patch of earth."

Give me a break. That's some human tier stupidity in action right there.

Because everything I have ever accomplished in my life and will ever accomplish is built upon the achievements of the people that came before me. I'm alive because of my parents, who are alive because of my grandparents, and so on; that alone is something to be proud of, life is a very precious thing and should be treasured, because it's finite and fragile and requires effort to maintain; but also because it's unique, being alive is distinctly different from any other natural phenomena.

Now the reason why me and my family and ancestors are/were able to stay alive is because they claimed some land and worked their asses off for it; they turned empty fields and dense forests into places fit for raising a family and making a society, and they did so by co-operating with the people around them. I live in New Zealand and the country was just a bunch of tribes at war with each other until the Colonists stepped in and brought their technology and way of life here and made it a place worth living in. I'm extremely grateful because of that and extremely proud that people from the British isles were able to sail all the way around the world just to tame a few island at the bottom of the world so that everyone I know and myself could live comfortably.

I'm also damn proud that because of my countrymen my Grandma and Grandad were able to stop starving to death in poverty in Ireland and start over here. They've been trying their hardest their entire life and they could only succeed because so was everyone else in this country. I'm grateful that I've been able to live a peaceful life and so has everyone else I know, we're not at war or in conflict or short of resources, we're happy and content with a simple way of life that was given to us.

You're right that I didn't choose to be alive and that I didn't build this country myself, but my ancestors and other kiwis gave me a world to live in and brought me into that world out of love and determination, I'm really struggling to convey just how amazing that is.

>"They've been murdering each other for centuries, so it's okay if they continue to murder others now. It's just how it's been, you shouldn't expect anything less GOSH you're sooooo oppressive against culture!!"
And literally the same as
>"His parents beat him as a kid, so it isn't HIS fault he beat and murdered his wife!"

When have I said that it's perfectly fine for people to kill each other? I'm not advocating that we just say, "oh, well yeah, that's fine," I'm just saying that you can't pin the whole damn thing on islam and then decide to hate the arabs because of it. jfc.

>Waaaaaah my ancestors were oppressed, lemme drink and do drugs all day rather than make something of myself waaaaah I'm so oppressed waaaah still getting free state entitlements waaaaaaaah

Also, "systematic genocide over a couple centuries" LOL. The Manifest Destiny only lasted like 20 years and was in no way a genocide.

>"It's okay they have a shitty culture, it's how they've been for a while. You can't blame them for their Cast System and filthiness and expect standards!! How DARE you!!"

Same bullshit excuse etc

"I'm some white dude and I think that systematically oppressed races should just pick themselves up by le bootstraps. Lmao, if you're poor just buy more money, duh."

It's really not even worth the effort to argue with you if you're THAT stupid. This isn't about white guilt or people deserving handouts, this about the fact that countries who are invaded and torn to shreds by foreign powers don't exactly have the inherent ability to just bounce right back - especially when those same foreign countries look at the mess they themselves created and go, "Woah, what a bunch of backwards-ass idiots."

Culture and technological sharing and/or integration is not the same as genocides, segregation, and forced assimilation. I agree with you on the point that I think it's silly that we should leave cultures "untouched" so that they can stay "pure" - that's a bit silly. Forwarding people literally hundreds if not thousands of technological years is fantastic.

But I'm assuming that these points fall on flat ears to a person who says that what the Spanish/French/British/Americans did to the native tribes WASN'T genocide. What point is there?

Pfffffff HAHAHAHAHA you clearly don't understand the Metal scene at all if you're even thinking of equating it with nigger/"thug" culture. Same with violent video games.

Hm, why are they so different? Both glorify violence and bloodshed, the acquisition of wealth, the importance of self over the importance of others, I could go on and on.

Or is the fact that bands such as the aforementioned Mayhem condoned suicide on their album covers, murdered rival band members, and burned down churches somehow better than rap because they're white? Why are white shooters always mentally ill but black shooters just a product of a "poor culture"? Why is it that violent video games and punk or metal culture can't be responsible when a guy shoots up a theater and says he's the Joker but when a black guy shoots a white dude then it's probably because he listened to too much rap and was encouraged by those other, naughty thugs?

Once again, probably not poignant to use these on a person who refers to black people as "niggers", but, y'know, I try.

You can't blame a culture for promoting having children as that is required to stop the culture from going extinct.

I can when such a thing is no longer necessary.

Why is casual sex good? Isn't it by definition of a lower standard than non-casual sex?

Why is it bad? Why is it of a "lower standard"? Just because it's not for some people doesn't mean that society should look down upon it.

Why is group sex good and worth promoting?

Uh, because it's fun and causes no harm? Don't go fuckin' Verby on me, here.

Speaking as a man I find the idea of having sex with a woman that has fucked other men, especially large amounts of other men to be disgusting, so I have to ask why you approve of this behavior; do you find it attractive? do you think society benefits from it?

Why do you find that idea disgusting? Not that I'm saying you HAVE to find it attractive or you're some kind of bigot, but you should probably look at the reasons why. Would you feel disgusting hanging out with a man who's been with a lot of women? This sort of thing - female sexual activity being equated as a negative while the opposite is true for men - is exactly the type of thing that I'm talking about hating.

Also i'm not sure what you're talking about with sexuality being worse than violence

The TV show Hannibal features a scene commonly referred to as "angels", wherein he has strung up two individuals in a very sadistic position with their backs torn open and hung so that they protrude from their backs like the wings of an angel, as shown below.


Both of the figures in the scene are entirely nude, and when seen from the front, viewers were able to see the female corpse's nipples. The censors wouldn't allow that, saying that it was "too mature", and so the fix was to slit the corpse of the female's throat and have the blood flowing over her breasts, as seen below.


That is what I mean by sexuality being worse than violence.

And as for polyamory, are you a cuckold?

Lmao, how the fuck do those even relate at all?

"Oh, you're gay. You into BDSM, then?"

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Quote from: Cindy Claus on December 12, 2015, 05:56:05 AM

Gotta love how easily you criticize Christianity but don't say a thing against Islam.

LIBERALS ARE FUCKING CANCER

Probably because western society doesn't have centuries of ingrained orthodox islamic values that I live with on a day-to-day basis, you fuckin' genius.

And in a Muslim country you wouldn't have to deal with this on a day to day basis, because they'd fucking kill you.

Yeah, but that's not really FUCKIN' relevant, is it?

If I lived in goddamn Pakistan then I'd have different complaints. No shit.