Why do liberals view Trumps Muslim ban negatively?

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So I guess Liberals are just going to ignore how FDR treated the Japanese and how Jimmy Carter treated the Iranians. Its okay because they're democrats, but its not okay for Trump. Makes sense.


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You can't ban someone based of their religion. You can however ban people from a certain nation.


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You can't ban someone based of their religion. You can however ban people from a certain nation.

Whats the difference?


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Because democrats are okay with how the Japanese were treated


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emigrate or degenerate. the choice is yours
Because it's a direct violation of the first amendment.

That being said however, the reactionary response on this has been blown way out of proportion.


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Nobody says the things that FDR and Jimmy Carter did were fine. Pretty much anyone who's even moderate 'progressive' (read: not a racist) will agree that forcing people into camps based on their race, as was the case of the Japanese internment, was an atrocious thing to do.


 
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Because democrats are okay with how the Japanese were treated
Except no one says that, silly. At least I hope not.

Also, why do we always say "liberals" or "radicals" when talking about political things? Why do we never talk about the vast majority of people who're in the middle?
Last Edit: December 09, 2015, 01:47:07 PM by Luciana


 
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Its okay because they're democrats, but its not okay for Trump. Makes sense.

Except literally no one is saying that.


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I uh...um...do you know democrats (or anyone) who defends the incarceration of Japanese-Americans? Because I don't
Last Edit: December 09, 2015, 01:59:43 PM by Sam


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Because democrats are okay with how the Japanese were treated
Except no one says that, silly. At least I hope not.

Also, why do we always say "liberals" or "radicals" when talking about political things? Why do we never talk about the vast majority of people who're in the middle?
That was sarcasm luci


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It's against a little thing called the constitution.


 
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Because democrats are okay with how the Japanese were treated
Except no one says that, silly. At least I hope not.

Also, why do we always say "liberals" or "radicals" when talking about political things? Why do we never talk about the vast majority of people who're in the middle?
That was sarcasm luci
I don't know what that is :(


 
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"B-B-BUT WE NEVER SAID THAT"

Never seen any of you talk shit about Carter or Eisenhower for what they did to Iranians, either.

Democrat hypocrisy at its finest. Getting real tired of all of you. It's like democracy is just one big lie.
I don't think anyone talked about Carter or Eisenhower because it was never relevant in any conversation. At least not to my knowledge.

It'd be like bringing up Nixon if you were talking about Bush or something stupid.

Speaking of Carter, amazing what money can do to get rid of Cancer. He had it in his brain and now it's just "gone".


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Not to be too blunt, but I don't know anyone who is a liberal (including myself) who ever agrees with the banning and discrimination of anyone based on religion. 


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On top of the rights that would be infringed, he intends to have it enforced by asking immigrants their religion nicely.
Last Edit: December 10, 2015, 10:28:43 PM by Sly Instinct


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Have you actually ever met a liberal that endorsed the Japanese Internment Camps?

A Democrat also was the only person in history to use nuclear weapons on the public and infected syphilis on unknowing subjects as an experiment. So does that mean it's hypocritical for any Democrats or Liberals to condemn the killing of innocents?

I literally have no idea what the point is here or what's being discussed itt.


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Lol 0/10 as usual.


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"B-B-BUT WE NEVER SAID THAT"

Never seen any of you talk shit about Carter or Eisenhower for what they did to Iranians, either.

Democrat hypocrisy at its finest. Getting real tired of all of you. It's like democracy is just one big lie.
Because it's a hobby of mine to walk around and go, "Man, that thing that happened decades before I was born was some bullshit!"


 
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"B-B-BUT WE NEVER SAID THAT"

Never seen any of you talk shit about Carter or Eisenhower for what they did to Iranians, either.

Democrat hypocrisy at its finest. Getting real tired of all of you. It's like democracy is just one big lie.
Because it's a hobby of mine to walk around and go, "Man, that thing that happened decades before I was born was some bullshit!"
Conversations of these people come up all the time.
Literally the only conversations that I have ever had outside of a school classroom about FDR or Eisenhower that come to mind have been about this exact topic


 
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I've never talked about FDR or Eisenhower save for mentions of the Japanese/Iranian issues or high school history classes


 
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Have you actually ever met a liberal that endorsed the Japanese Internment Camps?

No, but I've met a ton of liberals who speak of FDR like hes a God.


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Get of my lawn
Except that EO9066 is universally panned as the single worst thing done by the US in WWII


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Have you actually ever met a liberal that endorsed the Japanese Internment Camps?

No, but I've met a ton of liberals who speak of FDR like hes a God.
Touché. I'd imagine they aren't very familiar with history or else it is hypocritical of them.


 
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Have you actually ever met a liberal that endorsed the Japanese Internment Camps?

No, but I've met a ton of liberals who speak of FDR like hes a God.
Touché. I'd imagine they aren't very familiar with history or else it is hypocritical of them.
Or they're just looking at how he handled the war/New Deal and not much else. But yeah, I think everyone agrees that Japanese internment camps were god awful. I think the only relevant person not shutting up about it right now is Trump.


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Also, y'know, happened a good 70 years ago

Was a horrible thing, but we're supposed to learn by our mistakes, not just say, "Well, FDR was a good leader and he did it, so Trump should do it too!"

Washington had slaves, doesn't mean that if a modern-day leader wanted to reinstate slavery that we'd all just go, "Well, I mean, our FOUNDING FATHERS had them, so why not?"


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Question: why would Muslims ever want to go to America considering it's not an Islamic country and never will be, and furthermore why would you want to bring Muslims into your non Muslim country?

Looking from the outside American culture and Muslim culture appear incompatible with one another.