Who was the best and worst President in US history?

challengerX · September 08, 2014, 10:02:42 AM

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Alternative Facts · September 08, 2014, 12:06:36 PM

Best: JFK, Monroe
Worst: Bush (Sorry, but the whole WMD bullshit kinda kills him in terms of me ever liking him), Reagan, FDR

More Than Mortal · September 08, 2014, 12:09:23 PM

Quote from: IcyWind on September 08, 2014, 12:06:36 PM

Best: JFK, Monroe
Worst: Bush (Sorry, but the whole WMD bullshit kinda kills him in terms of me ever liking him), Reagan, FDR

Reagan wasn't that bad, to be honest.

A lot of liberals hate him because he's the conservative poster-boy, and a lot of libertarians don't like him because it was essentially "rhetoric masking Statist content", to borrow Rothbard's description.

He certainly wasn't good, but he was fairly moderate in reality.

Alternative Facts · September 08, 2014, 12:10:45 PM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on September 08, 2014, 12:09:23 PM

Quote from: IcyWind on September 08, 2014, 12:06:36 PM
Best: JFK, Monroe
Worst: Bush (Sorry, but the whole WMD bullshit kinda kills him in terms of me ever liking him), Reagan, FDR
Reagan wasn't that bad, to be honest.

A lot of liberals hate him because he's the conservative poster-boy, and a lot of libertarians don't like him because it was essentially "rhetoric masking Statist content", to borrow Rothbard's description.

He certainly wasn't good, but he was fairly moderate in reality.

Sorry, but his handling of stuff like the AIDS crisis pisses me off. I'm sure there are arguably worse that people have done (Buchanan), but in modern history, Reagan falls to the dead bottom for me.

More Than Mortal · September 08, 2014, 12:12:12 PM

Quote from: IcyWind on September 08, 2014, 12:10:45 PM

Sorry, but his handling of stuff like the AIDS crisis pisses me off. I'm sure there are arguably worse that people have done (Buchanan), but in modern history, Reagan falls to the dead bottom for me.

That's fair enough, you seem like a person who focuses mainly on social issues, where economics is more my area. So, I'll concede Reagan was pretty shitty when it came to that.

Alternative Facts · September 08, 2014, 12:13:25 PM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on September 08, 2014, 12:12:12 PM

Quote from: IcyWind on September 08, 2014, 12:10:45 PM
Sorry, but his handling of stuff like the AIDS crisis pisses me off. I'm sure there are arguably worse that people have done (Buchanan), but in modern history, Reagan falls to the dead bottom for me.
That's fair enough, you seem like a person who focuses mainly on social issues, where economics is more my area. So, I'll concede Reagan was pretty shitty when it came to that.

Yeah, economics aren't my strongsuit. I know the fundamental basics, but don't expect much more from me.

Kinder Graham · September 08, 2014, 02:27:03 PM

Quote from: IcyWind on September 08, 2014, 12:06:36 PM

Best: JFK, Monroe
Worst: Bush (Sorry, but the whole WMD bullshit kinda kills him in terms of me ever liking him), Reagan, FDR

Rather interesting with the pick of Monroe. Actually agree with your listings, aside from Reagan. But Kennedy is easily one, if not the, of the best president we have ever had, especially with what he accomplished in his 2 years

Alternative Facts · September 08, 2014, 03:01:03 PM

Quote from: Kinder_ on September 08, 2014, 02:27:03 PM

Quote from: IcyWind on September 08, 2014, 12:06:36 PM
Best: JFK, Monroe
Worst: Bush (Sorry, but the whole WMD bullshit kinda kills him in terms of me ever liking him), Reagan, FDR
Rather interesting with the pick of Monroe. Actually agree with your listings, aside from Reagan. But Kennedy is easily one, if not the, of the best president we have ever had, especially with what he accomplished in his 2 years

How was my Monroe pick interesting?

Kinder Graham · September 08, 2014, 03:05:24 PM

Quote from: IcyWind on September 08, 2014, 03:01:03 PM

Quote from: Kinder_ on September 08, 2014, 02:27:03 PM
Quote from: IcyWind on September 08, 2014, 12:06:36 PM
Best: JFK, Monroe
Worst: Bush (Sorry, but the whole WMD bullshit kinda kills him in terms of me ever liking him), Reagan, FDR
Rather interesting with the pick of Monroe. Actually agree with your listings, aside from Reagan. But Kennedy is easily one, if not the, of the best president we have ever had, especially with what he accomplished in his 2 years

How was my Monroe pick interesting?

Just was. Don't really here people talk about him much when it comes to presidents. People typically talk about Washington, Jefferson, Jackson, Grant, McKinley, Teddy, Wilson, Hoover, FDR, Kennedy, Carter, Reagan, Clinton, Bush, and Obama more than any other president. Although the Gilded Age presidents are some of the lowest IMO