Quote from: Decimator Omega on February 01, 2016, 11:28:44 PMYep I'm relapsing.I've been thinking about it this past hour.It happens. As long as you bounce back, you'll be fine.
Yep I'm relapsing.I've been thinking about it this past hour.
Quote from: Decimator Omega on February 01, 2016, 11:32:06 PMQuote from: Kal on February 01, 2016, 11:29:43 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on February 01, 2016, 11:28:44 PMYep I'm relapsing.I've been thinking about it this past hour.It happens. As long as you bounce back, you'll be fine.I dunno. Things haven't been good lately.One thing I used to have when I was 18 that I no longer have is my self confidence. Regaining that has been a struggle.Well yeah, of course it's going to be a struggle. Having no self confidence is a crippling thing, so it's going to take a decent amount of work to regain. Your own lack of confidence and fear of what others think of you essentially becomes your worst enemy.
Quote from: Kal on February 01, 2016, 11:29:43 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on February 01, 2016, 11:28:44 PMYep I'm relapsing.I've been thinking about it this past hour.It happens. As long as you bounce back, you'll be fine.I dunno. Things haven't been good lately.One thing I used to have when I was 18 that I no longer have is my self confidence. Regaining that has been a struggle.
Quote from: Decimator Omega on February 01, 2016, 11:46:33 PMQuote from: Kal on February 01, 2016, 11:38:58 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on February 01, 2016, 11:32:06 PMQuote from: Kal on February 01, 2016, 11:29:43 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on February 01, 2016, 11:28:44 PMYep I'm relapsing.I've been thinking about it this past hour.It happens. As long as you bounce back, you'll be fine.I dunno. Things haven't been good lately.One thing I used to have when I was 18 that I no longer have is my self confidence. Regaining that has been a struggle.Well yeah, of course it's going to be a struggle. Having no self confidence is a crippling thing, so it's going to take a decent amount of work to regain. Your own lack of confidence and fear of what others think of you essentially becomes your worst enemy.It honestly is. Like I don't know about you but there are times where I just feel like I'm going to get massively shat on, so I tend to just give up.It's pretty much on you to just keep moving forward despite that. Keep moving, even when you don't want to anymore.
Quote from: Kal on February 01, 2016, 11:38:58 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on February 01, 2016, 11:32:06 PMQuote from: Kal on February 01, 2016, 11:29:43 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on February 01, 2016, 11:28:44 PMYep I'm relapsing.I've been thinking about it this past hour.It happens. As long as you bounce back, you'll be fine.I dunno. Things haven't been good lately.One thing I used to have when I was 18 that I no longer have is my self confidence. Regaining that has been a struggle.Well yeah, of course it's going to be a struggle. Having no self confidence is a crippling thing, so it's going to take a decent amount of work to regain. Your own lack of confidence and fear of what others think of you essentially becomes your worst enemy.It honestly is. Like I don't know about you but there are times where I just feel like I'm going to get massively shat on, so I tend to just give up.
Quote from: Decimator Omega on February 01, 2016, 11:54:06 PMQuote from: Kal on February 01, 2016, 11:48:50 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on February 01, 2016, 11:46:33 PMQuote from: Kal on February 01, 2016, 11:38:58 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on February 01, 2016, 11:32:06 PMQuote from: Kal on February 01, 2016, 11:29:43 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on February 01, 2016, 11:28:44 PMYep I'm relapsing.I've been thinking about it this past hour.It happens. As long as you bounce back, you'll be fine.I dunno. Things haven't been good lately.One thing I used to have when I was 18 that I no longer have is my self confidence. Regaining that has been a struggle.Well yeah, of course it's going to be a struggle. Having no self confidence is a crippling thing, so it's going to take a decent amount of work to regain. Your own lack of confidence and fear of what others think of you essentially becomes your worst enemy.It honestly is. Like I don't know about you but there are times where I just feel like I'm going to get massively shat on, so I tend to just give up.It's pretty much on you to just keep moving forward despite that. Keep moving, even when you don't want to anymore.My whole life I've been moving forward, and each time I do try to get to the light at the end of the dark tunnel known as contentment, it seems to be farther and farther away.You don't know if it's clouded or not, it could be closer than you realize but it's always going seem far. Keep moving. Even if you get kicked to the ground, nothing's stopping you from crawling until you can stand back up.
Quote from: Kal on February 01, 2016, 11:48:50 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on February 01, 2016, 11:46:33 PMQuote from: Kal on February 01, 2016, 11:38:58 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on February 01, 2016, 11:32:06 PMQuote from: Kal on February 01, 2016, 11:29:43 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on February 01, 2016, 11:28:44 PMYep I'm relapsing.I've been thinking about it this past hour.It happens. As long as you bounce back, you'll be fine.I dunno. Things haven't been good lately.One thing I used to have when I was 18 that I no longer have is my self confidence. Regaining that has been a struggle.Well yeah, of course it's going to be a struggle. Having no self confidence is a crippling thing, so it's going to take a decent amount of work to regain. Your own lack of confidence and fear of what others think of you essentially becomes your worst enemy.It honestly is. Like I don't know about you but there are times where I just feel like I'm going to get massively shat on, so I tend to just give up.It's pretty much on you to just keep moving forward despite that. Keep moving, even when you don't want to anymore.My whole life I've been moving forward, and each time I do try to get to the light at the end of the dark tunnel known as contentment, it seems to be farther and farther away.
Quote from: Decimator Omega on February 02, 2016, 12:06:27 AMQuote from: Kal on February 01, 2016, 11:57:16 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on February 01, 2016, 11:54:06 PMQuote from: Kal on February 01, 2016, 11:48:50 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on February 01, 2016, 11:46:33 PMQuote from: Kal on February 01, 2016, 11:38:58 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on February 01, 2016, 11:32:06 PMQuote from: Kal on February 01, 2016, 11:29:43 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on February 01, 2016, 11:28:44 PMYep I'm relapsing.I've been thinking about it this past hour.It happens. As long as you bounce back, you'll be fine.I dunno. Things haven't been good lately.One thing I used to have when I was 18 that I no longer have is my self confidence. Regaining that has been a struggle.Well yeah, of course it's going to be a struggle. Having no self confidence is a crippling thing, so it's going to take a decent amount of work to regain. Your own lack of confidence and fear of what others think of you essentially becomes your worst enemy.It honestly is. Like I don't know about you but there are times where I just feel like I'm going to get massively shat on, so I tend to just give up.It's pretty much on you to just keep moving forward despite that. Keep moving, even when you don't want to anymore.My whole life I've been moving forward, and each time I do try to get to the light at the end of the dark tunnel known as contentment, it seems to be farther and farther away.You don't know if it's clouded or not, it could be closer than you realize but it's always going seem far. Keep moving. Even if you get kicked to the ground, nothing's stopping you from crawling until you can stand back up.Well that's all I can do in reality, is to move forward and move on, even when others aren't with you because they're dead or just no longer want to deal with you.Those people are in the past. If they're not with you anymore, let it go. Mourn if you have to, but learn to move past it. There's no point in dwelling; your life can continue without them.
Quote from: Kal on February 01, 2016, 11:57:16 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on February 01, 2016, 11:54:06 PMQuote from: Kal on February 01, 2016, 11:48:50 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on February 01, 2016, 11:46:33 PMQuote from: Kal on February 01, 2016, 11:38:58 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on February 01, 2016, 11:32:06 PMQuote from: Kal on February 01, 2016, 11:29:43 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on February 01, 2016, 11:28:44 PMYep I'm relapsing.I've been thinking about it this past hour.It happens. As long as you bounce back, you'll be fine.I dunno. Things haven't been good lately.One thing I used to have when I was 18 that I no longer have is my self confidence. Regaining that has been a struggle.Well yeah, of course it's going to be a struggle. Having no self confidence is a crippling thing, so it's going to take a decent amount of work to regain. Your own lack of confidence and fear of what others think of you essentially becomes your worst enemy.It honestly is. Like I don't know about you but there are times where I just feel like I'm going to get massively shat on, so I tend to just give up.It's pretty much on you to just keep moving forward despite that. Keep moving, even when you don't want to anymore.My whole life I've been moving forward, and each time I do try to get to the light at the end of the dark tunnel known as contentment, it seems to be farther and farther away.You don't know if it's clouded or not, it could be closer than you realize but it's always going seem far. Keep moving. Even if you get kicked to the ground, nothing's stopping you from crawling until you can stand back up.Well that's all I can do in reality, is to move forward and move on, even when others aren't with you because they're dead or just no longer want to deal with you.
Quote from: Decimator Omega on February 02, 2016, 12:10:17 AMQuote from: Kal on February 02, 2016, 12:08:53 AMQuote from: Decimator Omega on February 02, 2016, 12:06:27 AMQuote from: Kal on February 01, 2016, 11:57:16 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on February 01, 2016, 11:54:06 PMQuote from: Kal on February 01, 2016, 11:48:50 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on February 01, 2016, 11:46:33 PMQuote from: Kal on February 01, 2016, 11:38:58 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on February 01, 2016, 11:32:06 PMQuote from: Kal on February 01, 2016, 11:29:43 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on February 01, 2016, 11:28:44 PMYep I'm relapsing.I've been thinking about it this past hour.It happens. As long as you bounce back, you'll be fine.I dunno. Things haven't been good lately.One thing I used to have when I was 18 that I no longer have is my self confidence. Regaining that has been a struggle.Well yeah, of course it's going to be a struggle. Having no self confidence is a crippling thing, so it's going to take a decent amount of work to regain. Your own lack of confidence and fear of what others think of you essentially becomes your worst enemy.It honestly is. Like I don't know about you but there are times where I just feel like I'm going to get massively shat on, so I tend to just give up.It's pretty much on you to just keep moving forward despite that. Keep moving, even when you don't want to anymore.My whole life I've been moving forward, and each time I do try to get to the light at the end of the dark tunnel known as contentment, it seems to be farther and farther away.You don't know if it's clouded or not, it could be closer than you realize but it's always going seem far. Keep moving. Even if you get kicked to the ground, nothing's stopping you from crawling until you can stand back up.Well that's all I can do in reality, is to move forward and move on, even when others aren't with you because they're dead or just no longer want to deal with you.Those people are in the past. If they're not with you anymore, let it go. Mourn if you have to, but learn to move past it. There's no point in dwelling; your life can continue without them.That's the bitter and harsh reality isn't it? How? How do people just have the will to do that?Fortunately I haven't lost anyone I know yet recently, but the fear of losing someone you really care about is still there.My family disowned me and I lost the person I wanted to spend the rest of my life with in the span of a few months. I've also dealt with a lot of deaths, both friends and relatives. Trust me, it's not impossible to move on.
Quote from: Kal on February 02, 2016, 12:08:53 AMQuote from: Decimator Omega on February 02, 2016, 12:06:27 AMQuote from: Kal on February 01, 2016, 11:57:16 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on February 01, 2016, 11:54:06 PMQuote from: Kal on February 01, 2016, 11:48:50 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on February 01, 2016, 11:46:33 PMQuote from: Kal on February 01, 2016, 11:38:58 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on February 01, 2016, 11:32:06 PMQuote from: Kal on February 01, 2016, 11:29:43 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on February 01, 2016, 11:28:44 PMYep I'm relapsing.I've been thinking about it this past hour.It happens. As long as you bounce back, you'll be fine.I dunno. Things haven't been good lately.One thing I used to have when I was 18 that I no longer have is my self confidence. Regaining that has been a struggle.Well yeah, of course it's going to be a struggle. Having no self confidence is a crippling thing, so it's going to take a decent amount of work to regain. Your own lack of confidence and fear of what others think of you essentially becomes your worst enemy.It honestly is. Like I don't know about you but there are times where I just feel like I'm going to get massively shat on, so I tend to just give up.It's pretty much on you to just keep moving forward despite that. Keep moving, even when you don't want to anymore.My whole life I've been moving forward, and each time I do try to get to the light at the end of the dark tunnel known as contentment, it seems to be farther and farther away.You don't know if it's clouded or not, it could be closer than you realize but it's always going seem far. Keep moving. Even if you get kicked to the ground, nothing's stopping you from crawling until you can stand back up.Well that's all I can do in reality, is to move forward and move on, even when others aren't with you because they're dead or just no longer want to deal with you.Those people are in the past. If they're not with you anymore, let it go. Mourn if you have to, but learn to move past it. There's no point in dwelling; your life can continue without them.That's the bitter and harsh reality isn't it? How? How do people just have the will to do that?Fortunately I haven't lost anyone I know yet recently, but the fear of losing someone you really care about is still there.
Quote from: β€ SecondClass on February 01, 2016, 11:59:03 PMQuote from: Kal on February 01, 2016, 11:48:50 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on February 01, 2016, 11:46:33 PMQuote from: Kal on February 01, 2016, 11:38:58 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on February 01, 2016, 11:32:06 PMQuote from: Kal on February 01, 2016, 11:29:43 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on February 01, 2016, 11:28:44 PMYep I'm relapsing.I've been thinking about it this past hour.It happens. As long as you bounce back, you'll be fine.I dunno. Things haven't been good lately.One thing I used to have when I was 18 that I no longer have is my self confidence. Regaining that has been a struggle.Well yeah, of course it's going to be a struggle. Having no self confidence is a crippling thing, so it's going to take a decent amount of work to regain. Your own lack of confidence and fear of what others think of you essentially becomes your worst enemy.It honestly is. Like I don't know about you but there are times where I just feel like I'm going to get massively shat on, so I tend to just give up.It's pretty much on you to just keep moving forward despite that. Keep moving, even when you don't want to anymore.lol, to what extent?If you're always working on self improvement, eventually you're going to reach a point where things stop being so hard. It won't feel like you're dragging a thousand tons behind you anymore; life becomes easier and livable. Eventually you learn to stop hating yourself and let go from things in the past, and it opens you up to a new level of mental maturity. You realize that not everything is the end of the world and that things become easier to deal with and overcome when you're no longer fighting yourself the entire way.
Quote from: Kal on February 01, 2016, 11:48:50 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on February 01, 2016, 11:46:33 PMQuote from: Kal on February 01, 2016, 11:38:58 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on February 01, 2016, 11:32:06 PMQuote from: Kal on February 01, 2016, 11:29:43 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on February 01, 2016, 11:28:44 PMYep I'm relapsing.I've been thinking about it this past hour.It happens. As long as you bounce back, you'll be fine.I dunno. Things haven't been good lately.One thing I used to have when I was 18 that I no longer have is my self confidence. Regaining that has been a struggle.Well yeah, of course it's going to be a struggle. Having no self confidence is a crippling thing, so it's going to take a decent amount of work to regain. Your own lack of confidence and fear of what others think of you essentially becomes your worst enemy.It honestly is. Like I don't know about you but there are times where I just feel like I'm going to get massively shat on, so I tend to just give up.It's pretty much on you to just keep moving forward despite that. Keep moving, even when you don't want to anymore.lol, to what extent?
People tell me that a lot. I don't think I'm strong. Just stubborn. Half the time it felt like I didn't even know why I was moving forward, it was just happening. Like your feet just keep moving even though you don't want them to. Someone curb stomps you to the ground but for some reason you keep dragging yourself along. It was fucking hard, I'm not gonna lie. But that part of my life is over now and I'm glad for it.
Save myself? Bro I'm fine.Relapsing is a normal and natural part of the process. Like I said, all that matters is how well you bounce back from it.
There is no limit to how far someone can improve themselves.
Quote from: Kal on February 02, 2016, 12:29:08 AMThere is no limit to how far someone can improve themselves.except there totally isyou just do the best with what you have, which sometimes isn't enough
Quote from: β€ SecondClass on February 02, 2016, 12:31:15 AMQuote from: Kal on February 02, 2016, 12:29:08 AMThere is no limit to how far someone can improve themselves.except there totally isyou just do the best with what you have, which sometimes isn't enoughThat's only if you tell yourself that.In fact, that's pretty much the entire thing with depression. The only reason why ____ is because you tell yourself that you can't.
Quote from: Kal on February 02, 2016, 12:40:22 AMQuote from: β€ SecondClass on February 02, 2016, 12:31:15 AMQuote from: Kal on February 02, 2016, 12:29:08 AMThere is no limit to how far someone can improve themselves.except there totally isyou just do the best with what you have, which sometimes isn't enoughThat's only if you tell yourself that.In fact, that's pretty much the entire thing with depression. The only reason why ____ is because you tell yourself that you can't.It's not all about depression. You can change yourself for the better, sure, but it's not always enough. There's more than issues of mere perspective when people are considering things as serious as suicide.
Just curious. Can you give me an example of what counts as not enough, Class?
Quote from: Sandtrap on February 02, 2016, 01:07:44 AMJust curious. Can you give me an example of what counts as not enough, Class?Some things can never change.
Quote from: β€ SecondClass on February 02, 2016, 01:09:28 AMQuote from: Sandtrap on February 02, 2016, 01:07:44 AMJust curious. Can you give me an example of what counts as not enough, Class?Some things can never change.A lot of things can. And if this is what I think you're talking about, even still, it can. It just requires effort.Something a lot of people shy away from. That's half of what depression can be sometimes. People's unwillingness to work for what they want. They fool themselves into thinking it's out of reach, because they're afraid to put the effort required in to get it. Depression can slip right in through that and then feed it.
Quote from: Sandtrap on February 02, 2016, 01:13:07 AMQuote from: β€ SecondClass on February 02, 2016, 01:09:28 AMQuote from: Sandtrap on February 02, 2016, 01:07:44 AMJust curious. Can you give me an example of what counts as not enough, Class?Some things can never change.A lot of things can. And if this is what I think you're talking about, even still, it can. It just requires effort.Something a lot of people shy away from. That's half of what depression can be sometimes. People's unwillingness to work for what they want. They fool themselves into thinking it's out of reach, because they're afraid to put the effort required in to get it. Depression can slip right in through that and then feed it.I guess it really depends on the circumstances and what you want to do.
Quote from: β€ SecondClass on February 01, 2016, 11:29:31 PMQuote from: ThirdClass on February 01, 2016, 06:52:39 PMQuote from: β€ SecondClass on February 01, 2016, 06:49:40 PMQuote from: ThirdClass on February 01, 2016, 06:45:46 PMQuote from: β€ SecondClass on February 01, 2016, 04:47:46 PMQuote from: ThirdClass on February 01, 2016, 04:27:43 PMrealize that your problems are nothing that can't be overcome.what a worthless platitude?I would say most young peoples' problems are nothing that can't be fixed by bringing about some sort of change. If you're not willing to do that, then the thoughts will probably keep coming back.lmaoSome things literally can't be changedThose things don't have to keep you down forever, though.you're just full of idiomatic lines, aren't youDefinitely kill yourself because nothing will ever get better for you. Ever. Everything is a waste of time. Just end it now. Is that what you want to hear?
Quote from: ThirdClass on February 01, 2016, 06:52:39 PMQuote from: β€ SecondClass on February 01, 2016, 06:49:40 PMQuote from: ThirdClass on February 01, 2016, 06:45:46 PMQuote from: β€ SecondClass on February 01, 2016, 04:47:46 PMQuote from: ThirdClass on February 01, 2016, 04:27:43 PMrealize that your problems are nothing that can't be overcome.what a worthless platitude?I would say most young peoples' problems are nothing that can't be fixed by bringing about some sort of change. If you're not willing to do that, then the thoughts will probably keep coming back.lmaoSome things literally can't be changedThose things don't have to keep you down forever, though.you're just full of idiomatic lines, aren't you
Quote from: β€ SecondClass on February 01, 2016, 06:49:40 PMQuote from: ThirdClass on February 01, 2016, 06:45:46 PMQuote from: β€ SecondClass on February 01, 2016, 04:47:46 PMQuote from: ThirdClass on February 01, 2016, 04:27:43 PMrealize that your problems are nothing that can't be overcome.what a worthless platitude?I would say most young peoples' problems are nothing that can't be fixed by bringing about some sort of change. If you're not willing to do that, then the thoughts will probably keep coming back.lmaoSome things literally can't be changedThose things don't have to keep you down forever, though.
Quote from: ThirdClass on February 01, 2016, 06:45:46 PMQuote from: β€ SecondClass on February 01, 2016, 04:47:46 PMQuote from: ThirdClass on February 01, 2016, 04:27:43 PMrealize that your problems are nothing that can't be overcome.what a worthless platitude?I would say most young peoples' problems are nothing that can't be fixed by bringing about some sort of change. If you're not willing to do that, then the thoughts will probably keep coming back.lmaoSome things literally can't be changed
Quote from: β€ SecondClass on February 01, 2016, 04:47:46 PMQuote from: ThirdClass on February 01, 2016, 04:27:43 PMrealize that your problems are nothing that can't be overcome.what a worthless platitude?I would say most young peoples' problems are nothing that can't be fixed by bringing about some sort of change. If you're not willing to do that, then the thoughts will probably keep coming back.
Quote from: ThirdClass on February 01, 2016, 04:27:43 PMrealize that your problems are nothing that can't be overcome.what a worthless platitude
realize that your problems are nothing that can't be overcome.
Quote from: β€ SecondClass on February 02, 2016, 05:14:29 AMQuote from: challengerX on February 02, 2016, 05:12:30 AMQuote from: β€ SecondClass on February 01, 2016, 11:29:31 PMQuote from: ThirdClass on February 01, 2016, 06:52:39 PMQuote from: β€ SecondClass on February 01, 2016, 06:49:40 PMQuote from: ThirdClass on February 01, 2016, 06:45:46 PMQuote from: β€ SecondClass on February 01, 2016, 04:47:46 PMQuote from: ThirdClass on February 01, 2016, 04:27:43 PMrealize that your problems are nothing that can't be overcome.what a worthless platitude?I would say most young peoples' problems are nothing that can't be fixed by bringing about some sort of change. If you're not willing to do that, then the thoughts will probably keep coming back.lmaoSome things literally can't be changedThose things don't have to keep you down forever, though.you're just full of idiomatic lines, aren't youDefinitely kill yourself because nothing will ever get better for you. Ever. Everything is a waste of time. Just end it now. Is that what you want to hear?I don't want to hear cliches any more than I want to hear that.That's my point. You're not going to hear what you need to hear from us.I don't have a clue what you're going through or what it's like to have the issue you have. Neither does Jester and even the people that share your condition can't really help you because every individual is different. You have to deal with this yourself. You can recieve comfort and support from people, but that only helps you on your path to understanding and dealing with yourself. Nobody else can do that for you.
Quote from: challengerX on February 02, 2016, 05:12:30 AMQuote from: β€ SecondClass on February 01, 2016, 11:29:31 PMQuote from: ThirdClass on February 01, 2016, 06:52:39 PMQuote from: β€ SecondClass on February 01, 2016, 06:49:40 PMQuote from: ThirdClass on February 01, 2016, 06:45:46 PMQuote from: β€ SecondClass on February 01, 2016, 04:47:46 PMQuote from: ThirdClass on February 01, 2016, 04:27:43 PMrealize that your problems are nothing that can't be overcome.what a worthless platitude?I would say most young peoples' problems are nothing that can't be fixed by bringing about some sort of change. If you're not willing to do that, then the thoughts will probably keep coming back.lmaoSome things literally can't be changedThose things don't have to keep you down forever, though.you're just full of idiomatic lines, aren't youDefinitely kill yourself because nothing will ever get better for you. Ever. Everything is a waste of time. Just end it now. Is that what you want to hear?I don't want to hear cliches any more than I want to hear that.
there has been tons of good external advice ITTempty platitudes aren't part of it