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Anarchists are not libertarians.
They're not conservatives, either. I just said he's more of a libertarian than a conservative.


 
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The only area I could be called seriously conservative is culturally
That's literally the worst area to be conservative in
I'm a shitlord for believing in the relative superiority of Western values?


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The only area I could be called seriously conservative is culturally
That's literally the worst area to be conservative in
I'm a shitlord for believing in the relative superiority of Western values?
"Western values" are complete trash.


 
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I'd put Meta, Mordo, and Turkey as the shit beliefs trifecta

Slash and Door aren't that bad, IMO. And I'd consider Door more of a libertarian than a conservative.
it's all right wing ideology to me

Dude, you're nuts if you think Slash is less right-wing than me and simultaneously more right-wing than Turkey. Turkey and I are on the same level, if you insist on ranking us.

Gotta be honest, don't know why you think I'm that right-wing. The only area I could be called seriously conservative is culturally, other than that I'm pretty moderate/permissive.
i wasn't aiming for perfection--really, looking at it again, i actually ranked them in terms of how much i disagree with them on various subjects

i've had the least disagreements with turkey, and the most with door

funnily enough, i've never actually gotten in a heated debate with door before
kinda like das, but his political belonging is a meme anyway
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"Western values" are complete trash.
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"Western values" are complete trash.
Right.

Competition, the rule of law, property rights, a consumer culture and the Protestant work ethic never did anything for anybody. . .


 
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like das, but his political belonging is a meme anyway
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"Western values" are complete trash.
Right.

Competition, the rule of law, property rights, a consumer culture and the Protestant work ethic never did anything for anybody. . .
Rule of law is a western value? LMAO

And yeah, those are all shit. They're all capitalist values.


 
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Rule of law is a western value?
Not exclusively, but it's incorrect to suggest that it hasn't taken its strongest hold in Western Europe, the Commonwealth and the United States. Napoleon basically spread it across the Continent.


 
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"Western values" are complete trash.
Right.

Competition, the rule of law, property rights, a consumer culture and the Protestant work ethic never did anything for anybody. . .

Welp, a consumer culture is pretty fucking dumb to be honest.

Problem with a consumer culture is that nobody knows when, and nobody wants to, put the brakes on. So then it quickly turns into over consumption and burns itself out. Like what it's doing now.

Rule of law, you talk like nobody else had that before and that it's just unique to western values.

Competion? Nigger please, competition isn't some magical thing bestowed on people by western values, it's inherent to most people's nature, and therefore, establishes itself on it's own.

And work ethic?

Check out the latest generations of kids. How's that work ethic doing there slick? Oh that's right, I forgot.

I gotta upvote the post talking about action needing to be done in some shittier part of the world or some crap to be fixed in mine and then consume more fucking cheeseburgers while I use a labtop built by some chinese kids getting paid peanuts for the month.

Really glorious culture we got. One for the ages that is. Instead of pyramids archeologists'll discover our landfills.



 
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Welp, a consumer culture is pretty fucking dumb to be honest.

Problem with a consumer culture is that nobody knows when, and nobody wants to, put the brakes on. So then it quickly turns into over consumption and burns itself out. Like what it's doing now.
I'd agree that consumerism can easily turn into materialism, but we've had philosophical and religious impulses which used to modulate the former. Is materialism a problem? Yes, I think it is. But to claim a general culture of consumption, which enables production, which enables wealth doesn't lead to prosperity is incorrect on the face of it.

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Rule of law, you talk like nobody else had that before and that it's just unique to western values.
Something being a "Western value" doesn't mean it's exclusive to the West; it just means we're fortunate Napoleon spread it across Europe by the barrel of a musket.

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Competion? Nigger please, competition isn't some magical thing bestowed on people by western values, it's inherent to most people's nature, and therefore, establishes itself on it's own.
Sure, but we're talking about values, not behaviour. There isn't currently--and hasn't been--a culture on Earth that institutionalises competition so effectively. Not even the Islamic golden age accomplished that, and the Middle East is currently suffering as a result. Commercial culture is pretty unique to us.

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Check out the latest generations of kids. How's that work ethic doing there slick? Oh that's right, I forgot.
Who are the people you know who most decry the decline of the Western work ethic, and the degeneration of Western culture in general? If it's on here, chances are it's me. If it's in real life, they're probably conservatives.


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Anarchists are not libertarians.
Anarchists are just Libertarians who've stopped making excusesβ„’
Or have simply smoked too much peyote.


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White men in general are indeed the most historically brutal demographic
Historically literate person here; you don't know what you're talking about.
You understand that there literally hasn't been a single female genocidal leader in history, right?


 
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Historically literate person here; you don't know what you're talking about.
You understand that there literally hasn't been a single female genocidal leader in history, right?

I'll take the Rwanda Genocide for 500 Alex.


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White men in general are indeed the most historically brutal demographic
Historically literate person here; you don't know what you're talking about.
You understand that there literally hasn't been a single female genocidal leader in history, right?
The Tutsi people would like a word.


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I'll take the Rwanda Genocide for 500 Alex.
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Rape was used as a tool by the Interahamwe, the chief perpetrators, to separate the consciously heterogeneous population and to drastically exhaust the opposing group. The use of propaganda played an important role in both the genocide and the gender specific violence. The Hutu propaganda depicted Tutsi women as "a sexually seductive β€˜fifth column’ in league with the Hutus’ enemies".
It's almost like women were the victims.


 
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Rape was used as a tool by the Interahamwe, the chief perpetrators, to separate the consciously heterogeneous population and to drastically exhaust the opposing group. The use of propaganda played an important role in both the genocide and the gender specific violence. The Hutu propaganda depicted Tutsi women as "a sexually seductive β€˜fifth column’ in league with the Hutus’ enemies".
It's almost like women were the victims.

http://thegrio.com/2011/06/24/rwandan-woman-is-first-ever-convicted-of-genocide/

I'll take the Rwanda Genocide for 800 Alex.


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http://thegrio.com/2011/06/24/rwandan-woman-is-first-ever-convicted-of-genocide/
Fair enough, but the fact that she was the first ever is pretty telling.
So I guess the fact Hitler wasn't convicted makes him innocent?


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Fair enough, but the fact that she was the first ever is pretty telling.
So I guess the fact Hitler wasn't convicted makes him innocent?
Unless you have examples of genocidal women leaders who weren't convicted, this comment was pointless.


 
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http://thegrio.com/2011/06/24/rwandan-woman-is-first-ever-convicted-of-genocide/
Fair enough, but the fact that she was the first ever is pretty telling.

Nice old rule. If it can happen once, it can and will happen again.

Keep in mind, there's probably been less women genocidal leaders because there's been less genocidal women leaders in power.

Switch the sides then. Let's assume for a minute that through all of history that we lived in a matriarchy instead of patriarchy. It'd be the same damn thing. Women can be just as twisted as guys can.

More so, in fact.


 
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Unless you have examples of genocidal women leaders who weren't convicted, this comment was pointless.
Not really. How responsible was Eva Braun? Historically, most leaders have been men, but no doubt there were women behind the scenes who also share some culpability and who have never been convicted.


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Let's assume for a minute that through all of history that we lived in a matriarchy instead of patriarchy. It'd be the same damn thing.
I disagree completely. This world would be a much, much better place if that were the case, and I doubt there would be nearly as many genocides.

Not something you or I can really prove, though, so whatever.


 
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http://thegrio.com/2011/06/24/rwandan-woman-is-first-ever-convicted-of-genocide/
Fair enough, but the fact that she was the first ever is pretty telling.

Nice old rule. If it can happen once, it can and will happen again.

Keep in mind, there's probably been less women genocidal leaders because there's been less genocidal women leaders in power.

Switch the sides then. Let's assume for a minute that through all of history that we lived in a matriarchy instead of patriarchy. It'd be the same damn thing. Women can be just as twisted as guys can.

More so, in fact.
I don't know; women tend to have a lower prevalence of psychopathy and narcissism. Then again, we'd expect exactly the most psychopathic and narcissistic of women to rise to those kinds of positions in the first place.


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