Hillary was a disaster from day one.

No.

Quote from: MAGA Man on November 09, 2016, 02:19:32 PM

Hillary was a disaster from day one.

No.

She lost more women votes than Obama and thought some blue states would remain blue when they clearly didn't.

How is she not a fucking catastrophe at this point.

Quote from: MAGA Man on November 09, 2016, 02:19:32 PM

Quote from: Icy on November 09, 2016, 02:11:08 PM

Now that we have the 2016 Elections behind us, have any opinions changed?

Dems got eviscerated obviously.

So we're pretty much flipped 2008-2016. Democrats are without a party leader or any government majority.

Where do they go in 2018 and 2020?

No idea. Not an American political expert.

What I will say is that if they continue with this Machiavellian back stab shit then I can't see them gaining political traction in the years to come.

You going to be a semantic ass or are you going to explain why Hillary was the correct choice?

Stein was the most logical choice.

Quote from: Verbatim on November 09, 2016, 02:34:21 PM

Quote from: MAGA Man on November 09, 2016, 02:29:23 PM

You going to be a semantic ass or are you going to explain why Hillary was the correct choice?

Stein was the most logical choice.

I meant as the Democrat candidate seeing as how you objected to my point about her being a disaster.

I was a Bernie supporter. I didn't object to your point about her being a disaster--she clearly is. I just didn't like your knee-jerk hyperbolic go-to "day one" descriptor, because her campaign only started really falling apart many months into it. She started out fine.

But then you backpedaled.

The anti establishment sentiment sweeping America was the reason Trump won. Hillary was an establishment politician even before she entered the race.

So yes, she was a disaster from day one. She just got progressively worse.

I think you have a flimsy and facile definition of disaster, then.

WHICH PARTY IS WEAK NOW MOTHERFUCKERS

Quote from: Verbatim on November 09, 2016, 02:34:21 PM

Quote from: MAGA Man on November 09, 2016, 02:29:23 PM

You going to be a semantic ass or are you going to explain why Hillary was the correct choice?

Stein was the most logical choice.

She believes

wifi

gives you

cancer

She also thinks nuclear energy

is dangerous

because of Russia's shitty building

and a tsunami and earthquake going on in Japan on the reactors built in the basement despite numerous warnings saying they should be on the hills

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Nuclear energy is the way to go, and people who have qualms about it are usually poorly informed on the subject. All of the disasters that have occurred at power plants were either due to blatantly obvious flaws and/or critical incompetence among the people staffing them.

Quote from: clum clum on November 09, 2016, 04:25:30 PM

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Nuclear energy is the way to go, and people who have qualms about it are usually poorly informed on the subject. All of the disasters that have occurred at power plants were either due to blatantly obvious flaws and/or critical incompetence among the people staffing them.

People who are afraid of incidents because of one fucking disaster are retarded. Any amount of research could show the Soviets completely fucked it up, played politics with it, and it was asking to be fucking wrecked. There is a shit ton of other energy sources that are JUST as dangerous too if handled wrong. It's completely asinine to think it should be canceled simply because of the potential to go wrong. You can look at coal mining and oil drilling and see it's happened WAY more and been WAY MORE HARMFUL in history.

But no, we'll continue to look at that one example, and Japan having everything go wrong and have it blown way out of propitiation (no one died from it) because people like to peddle fiction. I hold people who are afraid of nuclear energy, to the same level of intelligence of people who think wifi gives you cancer, or carbon emissions aren't bad for the environment

I know, right? I'm pretty sure I could the amount of serious disasters caused by nuclear power with one hand. People that protest against nuclear energy and call for power plants to be shut down anger me so much. What's worse is that governments oblige to them, and everybody thinks they've done a good thing, shutting down the big boogeyman power plant!

They're so stupid and brainwashed by oil companies looking to destroy the competition that they don't realize they are making us take a step backwards allowing these plants to be shut down, even though they are completely safe and do little to no harm to the environment in the right hands (which nowadays, they always are).

Despite the facts though, people will be still ignorant of it and will never be able to scrub the negative perception they have of nuclear power from their minds thanks to scaremongering fake bullshit like pic related: