No, class, you've given us an IS and an OUGHT, but you have failed to explain how the latter is derived from the former.
how would YOU feel if all you wanted in your life was to join the military and serve on the frontlines and then oh sucks you cant because you have a dick
Quote from: SecondClass on April 04, 2016, 03:14:08 AMhow would YOU feel if all you wanted in your life was to join the military and serve on the frontlines and then oh sucks you cant because you have a dickhow would YOU feel if all you wanted in your life was to be a pilot and then oh sucks you cant because you have bad eyesight
Quote from: SecondClass on April 04, 2016, 03:15:23 AMQuote from: Yulius Kaisar on April 04, 2016, 03:14:27 AMNo, class, you've given us an IS and an OUGHT, but you have failed to explain how the latter is derived from the former.haha epic college buzzwords man Stop shitposting and address it or concede.
Quote from: Yulius Kaisar on April 04, 2016, 03:14:27 AMNo, class, you've given us an IS and an OUGHT, but you have failed to explain how the latter is derived from the former.haha epic college buzzwords man
Quote from: Yulius Kaisar on April 04, 2016, 03:19:10 AMQuote from: SecondClass on April 04, 2016, 03:15:23 AMQuote from: Yulius Kaisar on April 04, 2016, 03:14:27 AMNo, class, you've given us an IS and an OUGHT, but you have failed to explain how the latter is derived from the former.haha epic college buzzwords man Stop shitposting and address it or concede.There's nothing to address. The only way you get your morals is through a fucking imaginary cloudman so youre really not in any position to say my is and ought dont connectwhen your is is just wrong to begin with
Quote from: SecondClass on April 04, 2016, 03:23:16 AMQuote from: Yulius Kaisar on April 04, 2016, 03:19:10 AMQuote from: SecondClass on April 04, 2016, 03:15:23 AMQuote from: Yulius Kaisar on April 04, 2016, 03:14:27 AMNo, class, you've given us an IS and an OUGHT, but you have failed to explain how the latter is derived from the former.haha epic college buzzwords man Stop shitposting and address it or concede.There's nothing to address. The only way you get your morals is through a fucking imaginary cloudman so youre really not in any position to say my is and ought dont connectwhen your is is just wrong to begin withHis faith doesn't really have anything to do with this.
then you weren't admitted because you weren't competent enough to be a pilot. You failed the admissions test to be one. The fucking issue if you would read the thread is that even women who pass the enlistment test, fully competent, STILL aren't allowed inthe fact that 50% of people aren't born with terrible eyesight also doesnt do this point any favors
Quote from: SecondClass on April 04, 2016, 03:21:39 AMthen you weren't admitted because you weren't competent enough to be a pilot. You failed the admissions test to be one. The fucking issue if you would read the thread is that even women who pass the enlistment test, fully competent, STILL aren't allowed inthe fact that 50% of people aren't born with terrible eyesight also doesnt do this point any favorsThen women aren't competent enough to to be an infantryman, by that logic. You can grasp at whatever straws you like, my comparison is valid.Also only 35% of adults have 20/20 vision.
Quote from: CIS on April 04, 2016, 03:25:57 AMQuote from: SecondClass on April 04, 2016, 03:23:16 AMQuote from: Yulius Kaisar on April 04, 2016, 03:19:10 AMQuote from: SecondClass on April 04, 2016, 03:15:23 AMQuote from: Yulius Kaisar on April 04, 2016, 03:14:27 AMNo, class, you've given us an IS and an OUGHT, but you have failed to explain how the latter is derived from the former.haha epic college buzzwords man Stop shitposting and address it or concede.There's nothing to address. The only way you get your morals is through a fucking imaginary cloudman so youre really not in any position to say my is and ought dont connectwhen your is is just wrong to begin withHis faith doesn't really have anything to do with this.we're talking about origin of moralities you dumb goddamn idiot
If they PASSED THE COMPETENCY TEST they are COMPETENT
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Quote from: SecondClass on April 04, 2016, 03:29:45 AMIf they PASSED THE COMPETENCY TEST they are COMPETENTPossessing the correct gender is part of the test to join.
I picked out of the air??? What the fuck?
and one thats far more important than human lives.
Quote from: SecondClass on April 04, 2016, 03:10:36 AMI picked out of the air??? What the fuck?Yes. You're offering us a deontological ethical system with no reference to consequence. This is arbitrary.Quoteand one thats far more important than human lives. This is so unfathomably irrational I genuinely have to wonder how you can hold opinions like this. Say equality can only be ensured with massive poverty and human suffering as an unintended consequence; do you genuinely think it's worth it?
fuck meta the most itt"pulled out of thin air"im just going to run around and say everyone elses values are pulled out of thin air and see what happens
Quote from: Memerick on April 04, 2016, 03:32:56 AMQuote from: SecondClass on April 04, 2016, 03:29:45 AMIf they PASSED THE COMPETENCY TEST they are COMPETENTPossessing the correct gender is part of the test to join.Finally, someone just admits they're a sexist. There is no "correct gender".
Quote from: Meta Cognition on April 04, 2016, 03:34:15 AMQuote from: SecondClass on April 04, 2016, 03:10:36 AMI picked out of the air??? What the fuck?Yes. You're offering us a deontological ethical system with no reference to consequence. This is arbitrary.Quoteand one thats far more important than human lives. This is so unfathomably irrational I genuinely have to wonder how you can hold opinions like this. Say equality can only be ensured with massive poverty and human suffering as an unintended consequence; do you genuinely think it's worth it?Of course it's worth it.
Of course it's worth it.
Quote from: SecondClass on April 04, 2016, 03:14:08 AMhow would YOU feel if all you wanted in your life was to join the military and serve on the frontlines and then oh sucks you cant because you have a dickhow every single person on this forum isn't deeply morally appalled by this scenario fucking baffles me
Quote from: SecondClass on April 04, 2016, 03:35:15 AMOf course it's worth it.I refuse to believe you're this psychopathically indifferent to human suffering.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on April 04, 2016, 03:41:06 AMQuote from: SecondClass on April 04, 2016, 03:35:15 AMOf course it's worth it.I refuse to believe you're this psychopathically indifferent to human suffering.He's the kind of guy who says he wouldn't kill one person to save a million, "because killing people is wrong."I mean, he HAS said that.