Quote from: Rescue on October 14, 2018, 04:00:55 PMQuote from: Eli on October 14, 2018, 12:25:27 PMQuote from: Rescue on October 14, 2018, 01:28:50 AMQuote from: Eli on October 14, 2018, 01:24:02 AMI've never met a single Trump supporter who was also a good person.“I’m not a radical I swear”I didn't say I wasn't a radical.People who support Trump are often preemptively covering their own asses for predatory behaviour, racism, and/or greed. The rest are either stupid or just under a great misapprehension.Characterizing half the country as racists without a good bone in their body just because of how they voted on a single election is a bit far don’t you thinkI love how you focus on race. I didn't say all Trump supporters were racist; most of them are sure, but the rest are either genuinely unintelligent or misinformed and guillible. I know good people who [would have] voted for Trump, but I do not know good people who support Trump. It's not about who you voted for, it's about who you support on a day-to-day basis. You're not a good person if you support an administration that separates young children from their families and locks them in cages. You're not a good person if you support an administration that enables sexual misconduct. There are lots of people who deeply regret their vote for Donald Trump, either thinking he was some democratic sleeper agent or that none of his policies would get through or he would drop out of his own accord. I think these people were wishfully thinking and ignorant; that doesn't make them bad people. But we didn't have a taste of Trump's governing style before 2016's election. Now that we do, I think decent people everywhere have an obligation to vote against him. There's no excuse this time.
Quote from: Eli on October 14, 2018, 12:25:27 PMQuote from: Rescue on October 14, 2018, 01:28:50 AMQuote from: Eli on October 14, 2018, 01:24:02 AMI've never met a single Trump supporter who was also a good person.“I’m not a radical I swear”I didn't say I wasn't a radical.People who support Trump are often preemptively covering their own asses for predatory behaviour, racism, and/or greed. The rest are either stupid or just under a great misapprehension.Characterizing half the country as racists without a good bone in their body just because of how they voted on a single election is a bit far don’t you think
Quote from: Rescue on October 14, 2018, 01:28:50 AMQuote from: Eli on October 14, 2018, 01:24:02 AMI've never met a single Trump supporter who was also a good person.“I’m not a radical I swear”I didn't say I wasn't a radical.People who support Trump are often preemptively covering their own asses for predatory behaviour, racism, and/or greed. The rest are either stupid or just under a great misapprehension.
Quote from: Eli on October 14, 2018, 01:24:02 AMI've never met a single Trump supporter who was also a good person.“I’m not a radical I swear”
I've never met a single Trump supporter who was also a good person.
I think Eli touched on a pretty good point though. It's not necessarily that people who voted for Trump are terrible people, just those that continue to support him two years into this shit show.
Quote from: Dietrich Six on October 14, 2018, 08:35:38 PMI think Eli touched on a pretty good point though. It's not necessarily that people who voted for Trump are terrible people, just those that continue to support him two years into this shit show.How can you say it's shit show when unemployment is lowest in 50 years and economic growth over 4%
No Trump supporter I know actually taking children away from their parents. No Trump supporters I know actually support grabbing women by the pussy. No Trump supporter I know would actually support the destruction of America that you and Challenger think is happening.
When they look at Trump, they see a man who is flawed but who also has the economy growing, a strong stance on foreign affairs, and a willingness to criticize allies for not pulling their weight.
They’re tired of constantly being told they’re responsible for the ailments of black people, then women, then gay people, then trans people, then immigrants, then everybody else and their mother.
They’re tired of the identity politics.
So when a guy steps up and says everything they think and feel, it resonates a lot with the average person. They’re not thinking “this inspires me to hate Mexicans and women”. They’re thinking that Trump speaks for them.
The point of this long winded explanation is not that Trump is a good president or that excuses can be made for some of the genuine horrible things that he’s done. But you should remember that people are people and relegating them to the one dimensional view you have of them is doing them and yourself a disservice
"What were you imagining when you voted for President Trump?""He said 'The system is rigged.' He said he was going to be a new sheriff in town. And all he's done is surround himself with crooks. How many people have been indighted who were in close cahoots with him? And there, in front of the world stage, he looks at Putin, puts his arm around him and says 'This is my buddy.'"..."When I voted for Trump, I was looking for change, I was looking for maybe a non-political person coming in and a businessman bringing his expertise and skills into leadership. He's just not focused, not very sincere to whatever he decides to do. Things change fast, a good example is his positive relationship with Vladimir Putin and then the sanctions against Russia... I'm just not sure who is running this country right now."..."So is it fair to say that these character issues you have with Donald Trump supercede even the issues you voted for?"Unanimous: "Yes."..."I've been a life-long Republican since the day I turned 18. I think these midterms are really importan because the Republicans, I'm very sad to say, have become very, very spineless; they've become cowardly and just extraordinarily unwilling to stand up to Donald Trump's bizarreness that takes place daily in the Whitehouse."
We're not "thinking" it's happening. This is what's happening. The United States' President is a puppet for Russia, and elects people to important positions of power, not based on competency, but on loyalty. That's "Mad King" shit, dude. Have some respect for your own country and history.
I don't know what else to tell these people when they're being racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, xenophobic and any other nonsense I'm leaving out. We have to call out these things, no matter how minute they may seem, to really get rid of them.
It just doesn't matter the good he's done because it is so drastically outweighed by the horrible and fucking retarded things he does on a day-to-day basis. Do you watch the news (genuine question)? I don't like MSM either (they just published these bullshit 2020 DNC numbers that made me roll my eyes.) but if you watch anything other than Fox News it's really hard to take anything this guy says seriously. Like has been already stated, if you can't distance yourself from an administration that's done all these horrible things despite the few good things he does for you, there's not much I can say in your favour. You're obsessed with your own problems and need to look outward. Republicans have been broken since Obama got elected a second time and are trying to win back the culture wars. But you can't do it with this guy in office.
Why is it when you say “the people” I get the feeling you’re saying “white people”, like those are the only real Americans and the only ones that matter. You give away how much a racist as xenophobic scumbag you are in every post, and you don’t even realize it. This is how ingrained racism is in your psyche. In case you didn’t realize, Nguyen, you’re not “the people” you’re referring to. “Trump speaks for them”. You’re right. He absolutely does. He’s taking white trash racism straight to the whitehouse.
Quote from: Rescue on October 16, 2018, 01:26:52 AMI say "the people" because people on the left think the the norm has become pretty much anyone in California.What does this even mean lmao holy shit you’re such an alt right caricature.No you specifically said “The people are tired of a bias media shoving leftist propaganda down their throats. They’re tired of constantly being told they’re responsible for the ailments of black people, then women, then gay people, then trans people, then immigrants, then everybody else and their mother. They’re tired of the identity politics.“So from what you said, “the people” are not leftists, blacks, women, homosexuals, immigrants, and so on. YOU said that, shit for brains.QuoteThey forget a large portion of the country is just people trying to live their lives without all this social justice shit. And I never said they were the only ones that matters. You're the one acting like they don't matter.What SJW bullshit is there that can’t be dealt with without voting for a traitor? I’m confused, have you seen a decrease in divisive identity politics since trump took office? QuoteCalling someone a racist and xenophobic is a pretty heavy claim. Please tell me what race I hate, what I hate about them, and what I specifically wrote that proves it.Also, tell me why I'm not a part of "the people". Unless you think the people refers to rich white menApparently you have a problem with blacks, immigrants, women, and homosexuals, Nguyen. You’re not part of “the people” because “the people” you’re talking about aren’t apolitical people just trying to live their lives, they’re actually highly opinionated right wing people with very nasty views. These are the majority of the people that voted for trump.The people that didn’t vote are the ones just trying to live their lives, too stupid to realize how dangerous it was to not get involved and make sure trump didn’t get in the White House.
I say "the people" because people on the left think the the norm has become pretty much anyone in California.
They forget a large portion of the country is just people trying to live their lives without all this social justice shit. And I never said they were the only ones that matters. You're the one acting like they don't matter.
Calling someone a racist and xenophobic is a pretty heavy claim. Please tell me what race I hate, what I hate about them, and what I specifically wrote that proves it.Also, tell me why I'm not a part of "the people". Unless you think the people refers to rich white men
#Alex Jones 2032
Quote from: Rescue on October 16, 2018, 02:53:51 AMQuote from: challengerX on October 16, 2018, 02:06:29 AMQuote from: Rescue on October 16, 2018, 01:26:52 AMI say "the people" because people on the left think the the norm has become pretty much anyone in California.What does this even mean lmao holy shit you’re such an alt right caricature.No you specifically said “The people are tired of a bias media shoving leftist propaganda down their throats. They’re tired of constantly being told they’re responsible for the ailments of black people, then women, then gay people, then trans people, then immigrants, then everybody else and their mother. They’re tired of the identity politics.“So from what you said, “the people” are not leftists, blacks, women, homosexuals, immigrants, and so on. YOU said that, shit for brains.QuoteThey forget a large portion of the country is just people trying to live their lives without all this social justice shit. And I never said they were the only ones that matters. You're the one acting like they don't matter.What SJW bullshit is there that can’t be dealt with without voting for a traitor? I’m confused, have you seen a decrease in divisive identity politics since trump took office? QuoteCalling someone a racist and xenophobic is a pretty heavy claim. Please tell me what race I hate, what I hate about them, and what I specifically wrote that proves it.Also, tell me why I'm not a part of "the people". Unless you think the people refers to rich white menApparently you have a problem with blacks, immigrants, women, and homosexuals, Nguyen. You’re not part of “the people” because “the people” you’re talking about aren’t apolitical people just trying to live their lives, they’re actually highly opinionated right wing people with very nasty views. These are the majority of the people that voted for trump.The people that didn’t vote are the ones just trying to live their lives, too stupid to realize how dangerous it was to not get involved and make sure trump didn’t get in the White House.You’re projecting a lot onto me. I don’t want to get into personal attacks. I just want to know one thing. Do you have any empirical evidence that the country is filled with these vile far right extremists you keep describing? Or do all Trump supporters fall into that camp anyway?”I have no rebuttal so I’m going to claim you’re projecting”
Quote from: challengerX on October 16, 2018, 02:06:29 AMQuote from: Rescue on October 16, 2018, 01:26:52 AMI say "the people" because people on the left think the the norm has become pretty much anyone in California.What does this even mean lmao holy shit you’re such an alt right caricature.No you specifically said “The people are tired of a bias media shoving leftist propaganda down their throats. They’re tired of constantly being told they’re responsible for the ailments of black people, then women, then gay people, then trans people, then immigrants, then everybody else and their mother. They’re tired of the identity politics.“So from what you said, “the people” are not leftists, blacks, women, homosexuals, immigrants, and so on. YOU said that, shit for brains.QuoteThey forget a large portion of the country is just people trying to live their lives without all this social justice shit. And I never said they were the only ones that matters. You're the one acting like they don't matter.What SJW bullshit is there that can’t be dealt with without voting for a traitor? I’m confused, have you seen a decrease in divisive identity politics since trump took office? QuoteCalling someone a racist and xenophobic is a pretty heavy claim. Please tell me what race I hate, what I hate about them, and what I specifically wrote that proves it.Also, tell me why I'm not a part of "the people". Unless you think the people refers to rich white menApparently you have a problem with blacks, immigrants, women, and homosexuals, Nguyen. You’re not part of “the people” because “the people” you’re talking about aren’t apolitical people just trying to live their lives, they’re actually highly opinionated right wing people with very nasty views. These are the majority of the people that voted for trump.The people that didn’t vote are the ones just trying to live their lives, too stupid to realize how dangerous it was to not get involved and make sure trump didn’t get in the White House.You’re projecting a lot onto me. I don’t want to get into personal attacks. I just want to know one thing. Do you have any empirical evidence that the country is filled with these vile far right extremists you keep describing? Or do all Trump supporters fall into that camp anyway?
Quote from: Rescue on October 16, 2018, 03:13:59 PMQuote from: challengerX on October 16, 2018, 01:30:20 PMQuote from: Rescue on October 16, 2018, 02:53:51 AMQuote from: challengerX on October 16, 2018, 02:06:29 AMQuote from: Rescue on October 16, 2018, 01:26:52 AMI say "the people" because people on the left think the the norm has become pretty much anyone in California.What does this even mean lmao holy shit you’re such an alt right caricature.No you specifically said “The people are tired of a bias media shoving leftist propaganda down their throats. They’re tired of constantly being told they’re responsible for the ailments of black people, then women, then gay people, then trans people, then immigrants, then everybody else and their mother. They’re tired of the identity politics.“So from what you said, “the people” are not leftists, blacks, women, homosexuals, immigrants, and so on. YOU said that, shit for brains.QuoteThey forget a large portion of the country is just people trying to live their lives without all this social justice shit. And I never said they were the only ones that matters. You're the one acting like they don't matter.What SJW bullshit is there that can’t be dealt with without voting for a traitor? I’m confused, have you seen a decrease in divisive identity politics since trump took office? QuoteCalling someone a racist and xenophobic is a pretty heavy claim. Please tell me what race I hate, what I hate about them, and what I specifically wrote that proves it.Also, tell me why I'm not a part of "the people". Unless you think the people refers to rich white menApparently you have a problem with blacks, immigrants, women, and homosexuals, Nguyen. You’re not part of “the people” because “the people” you’re talking about aren’t apolitical people just trying to live their lives, they’re actually highly opinionated right wing people with very nasty views. These are the majority of the people that voted for trump.The people that didn’t vote are the ones just trying to live their lives, too stupid to realize how dangerous it was to not get involved and make sure trump didn’t get in the White House.You’re projecting a lot onto me. I don’t want to get into personal attacks. I just want to know one thing. Do you have any empirical evidence that the country is filled with these vile far right extremists you keep describing? Or do all Trump supporters fall into that camp anyway?”I have no rebuttal so I’m going to claim you’re projecting”Good luck with your yellingI hope you're successful in your attempts to improve AmericaWho’s yelling? Are you mad that I proved you wrong on every point you brought up? Would you care to bring up any more nonsense for me to disprove?
Quote from: challengerX on October 16, 2018, 01:30:20 PMQuote from: Rescue on October 16, 2018, 02:53:51 AMQuote from: challengerX on October 16, 2018, 02:06:29 AMQuote from: Rescue on October 16, 2018, 01:26:52 AMI say "the people" because people on the left think the the norm has become pretty much anyone in California.What does this even mean lmao holy shit you’re such an alt right caricature.No you specifically said “The people are tired of a bias media shoving leftist propaganda down their throats. They’re tired of constantly being told they’re responsible for the ailments of black people, then women, then gay people, then trans people, then immigrants, then everybody else and their mother. They’re tired of the identity politics.“So from what you said, “the people” are not leftists, blacks, women, homosexuals, immigrants, and so on. YOU said that, shit for brains.QuoteThey forget a large portion of the country is just people trying to live their lives without all this social justice shit. And I never said they were the only ones that matters. You're the one acting like they don't matter.What SJW bullshit is there that can’t be dealt with without voting for a traitor? I’m confused, have you seen a decrease in divisive identity politics since trump took office? QuoteCalling someone a racist and xenophobic is a pretty heavy claim. Please tell me what race I hate, what I hate about them, and what I specifically wrote that proves it.Also, tell me why I'm not a part of "the people". Unless you think the people refers to rich white menApparently you have a problem with blacks, immigrants, women, and homosexuals, Nguyen. You’re not part of “the people” because “the people” you’re talking about aren’t apolitical people just trying to live their lives, they’re actually highly opinionated right wing people with very nasty views. These are the majority of the people that voted for trump.The people that didn’t vote are the ones just trying to live their lives, too stupid to realize how dangerous it was to not get involved and make sure trump didn’t get in the White House.You’re projecting a lot onto me. I don’t want to get into personal attacks. I just want to know one thing. Do you have any empirical evidence that the country is filled with these vile far right extremists you keep describing? Or do all Trump supporters fall into that camp anyway?”I have no rebuttal so I’m going to claim you’re projecting”Good luck with your yellingI hope you're successful in your attempts to improve America
Quote from: Rescue on October 17, 2018, 03:24:52 AMQuote from: challengerX on October 16, 2018, 05:39:10 PMQuote from: Rescue on October 16, 2018, 03:13:59 PMQuote from: challengerX on October 16, 2018, 01:30:20 PMQuote from: Rescue on October 16, 2018, 02:53:51 AMQuote from: challengerX on October 16, 2018, 02:06:29 AMQuote from: Rescue on October 16, 2018, 01:26:52 AMI say "the people" because people on the left think the the norm has become pretty much anyone in California.What does this even mean lmao holy shit you’re such an alt right caricature.No you specifically said “The people are tired of a bias media shoving leftist propaganda down their throats. They’re tired of constantly being told they’re responsible for the ailments of black people, then women, then gay people, then trans people, then immigrants, then everybody else and their mother. They’re tired of the identity politics.“So from what you said, “the people” are not leftists, blacks, women, homosexuals, immigrants, and so on. YOU said that, shit for brains.QuoteThey forget a large portion of the country is just people trying to live their lives without all this social justice shit. And I never said they were the only ones that matters. You're the one acting like they don't matter.What SJW bullshit is there that can’t be dealt with without voting for a traitor? I’m confused, have you seen a decrease in divisive identity politics since trump took office? QuoteCalling someone a racist and xenophobic is a pretty heavy claim. Please tell me what race I hate, what I hate about them, and what I specifically wrote that proves it.Also, tell me why I'm not a part of "the people". Unless you think the people refers to rich white menApparently you have a problem with blacks, immigrants, women, and homosexuals, Nguyen. You’re not part of “the people” because “the people” you’re talking about aren’t apolitical people just trying to live their lives, they’re actually highly opinionated right wing people with very nasty views. These are the majority of the people that voted for trump.The people that didn’t vote are the ones just trying to live their lives, too stupid to realize how dangerous it was to not get involved and make sure trump didn’t get in the White House.You’re projecting a lot onto me. I don’t want to get into personal attacks. I just want to know one thing. Do you have any empirical evidence that the country is filled with these vile far right extremists you keep describing? Or do all Trump supporters fall into that camp anyway?”I have no rebuttal so I’m going to claim you’re projecting”Good luck with your yellingI hope you're successful in your attempts to improve AmericaWho’s yelling? Are you mad that I proved you wrong on every point you brought up? Would you care to bring up any more nonsense for me to disprove?You just been making a lot of claims without anything to back it up except your own preconceptions. You’re so entrenched in your own beliefs that it’s not worth it to even have a conversation with you when your main point is that I’m an idiot for not agreeing with youWhat claims? Be specific. Oh wait, you can’t be specific because you know that I’m directly responding to the points you’re bringing up and proving you wrong. You can’t be specific, so now you’re just acting like you’re “too good” to be in this conversation which you’re claiming has devolved into me pushing my “beliefs” when that’s actually what you’re doing. I’m not entrenched in anything, if trump was just an incompetent dude I wouldn’t care this much. But Cohen ran out on him and is giving the FBI who knows what information on crimes trump committed during the election and his presidency. So think real hard who it is that’s stuck on ideology here and is ignoring the facts.
Quote from: challengerX on October 16, 2018, 05:39:10 PMQuote from: Rescue on October 16, 2018, 03:13:59 PMQuote from: challengerX on October 16, 2018, 01:30:20 PMQuote from: Rescue on October 16, 2018, 02:53:51 AMQuote from: challengerX on October 16, 2018, 02:06:29 AMQuote from: Rescue on October 16, 2018, 01:26:52 AMI say "the people" because people on the left think the the norm has become pretty much anyone in California.What does this even mean lmao holy shit you’re such an alt right caricature.No you specifically said “The people are tired of a bias media shoving leftist propaganda down their throats. They’re tired of constantly being told they’re responsible for the ailments of black people, then women, then gay people, then trans people, then immigrants, then everybody else and their mother. They’re tired of the identity politics.“So from what you said, “the people” are not leftists, blacks, women, homosexuals, immigrants, and so on. YOU said that, shit for brains.QuoteThey forget a large portion of the country is just people trying to live their lives without all this social justice shit. And I never said they were the only ones that matters. You're the one acting like they don't matter.What SJW bullshit is there that can’t be dealt with without voting for a traitor? I’m confused, have you seen a decrease in divisive identity politics since trump took office? QuoteCalling someone a racist and xenophobic is a pretty heavy claim. Please tell me what race I hate, what I hate about them, and what I specifically wrote that proves it.Also, tell me why I'm not a part of "the people". Unless you think the people refers to rich white menApparently you have a problem with blacks, immigrants, women, and homosexuals, Nguyen. You’re not part of “the people” because “the people” you’re talking about aren’t apolitical people just trying to live their lives, they’re actually highly opinionated right wing people with very nasty views. These are the majority of the people that voted for trump.The people that didn’t vote are the ones just trying to live their lives, too stupid to realize how dangerous it was to not get involved and make sure trump didn’t get in the White House.You’re projecting a lot onto me. I don’t want to get into personal attacks. I just want to know one thing. Do you have any empirical evidence that the country is filled with these vile far right extremists you keep describing? Or do all Trump supporters fall into that camp anyway?”I have no rebuttal so I’m going to claim you’re projecting”Good luck with your yellingI hope you're successful in your attempts to improve AmericaWho’s yelling? Are you mad that I proved you wrong on every point you brought up? Would you care to bring up any more nonsense for me to disprove?You just been making a lot of claims without anything to back it up except your own preconceptions. You’re so entrenched in your own beliefs that it’s not worth it to even have a conversation with you when your main point is that I’m an idiot for not agreeing with you
Where the hell was this version of Hillary Clinton before?
