Conversion therapy (also known as reparative therapy) is a range of treatments that aim to change sexual orientation from homosexual to heterosexual, or to convince a transgender person to give up their gender identity and instead identify with the sex and gender they were assigned at birth. In recent decades, such treatments have been increasingly criticized for being pseudo-scientific.
Treatments involved in Conversion therapy can include electrical shocks to the hands and/or genitals, nausea-inducing drugs...administered simultaneously with the presentation of homoerotic stimuli, masturbatory reconditioning, visualization, social skills training, psychoanalytic therapy, and spiritual interventions, such as "prayer and group support and pressure".
People can genuinely convert their sexuality, they just don't like to.
Quote from: Icy on January 15, 2015, 03:50:48 PMQuote from: Dustin xLilD on January 15, 2015, 03:47:59 PMPeople can genuinely convert their sexuality, they just don't like to.If you're going to come in here with outlandish statements such as this that contradicts nearly every reputable psychological organization in the world (Other than maybe Russia), you better have a plethora of sources and studies to back it up.Not "They just don't like to". That makes you look moronic.What about people who are sexually fluid? They'll go a few years being straight, then bi, then gay, then bi again, then back to gay, then super gay, etc, etc.
Quote from: Dustin xLilD on January 15, 2015, 03:47:59 PMPeople can genuinely convert their sexuality, they just don't like to.If you're going to come in here with outlandish statements such as this that contradicts nearly every reputable psychological organization in the world (Other than maybe Russia), you better have a plethora of sources and studies to back it up.Not "They just don't like to". That makes you look moronic.
Quote from: Icy on January 15, 2015, 03:54:28 PMQuote from: Dustin xLilD on January 15, 2015, 03:52:29 PMQuote from: Icy on January 15, 2015, 03:50:48 PMQuote from: Dustin xLilD on January 15, 2015, 03:47:59 PMPeople can genuinely convert their sexuality, they just don't like to.If you're going to come in here with outlandish statements such as this that contradicts nearly every reputable psychological organization in the world (Other than maybe Russia), you better have a plethora of sources and studies to back it up.Not "They just don't like to". That makes you look moronic.What about people who are sexually fluid? They'll go a few years being straight, then bi, then gay, then bi again, then back to gay, then super gay, etc, etc.Sexually fluid is something completely different - there are people who can be attracted to all genders and sexes. But thinking you can turn someone straight by shocking their genitals and holding prayer circles is a mockery of any scientific research.Shock therapy is actually quite effective, it's just seen as unethical by some idiot liberals. And prayer might work, you don't know if He is real or not until you die.
Quote from: Dustin xLilD on January 15, 2015, 03:52:29 PMQuote from: Icy on January 15, 2015, 03:50:48 PMQuote from: Dustin xLilD on January 15, 2015, 03:47:59 PMPeople can genuinely convert their sexuality, they just don't like to.If you're going to come in here with outlandish statements such as this that contradicts nearly every reputable psychological organization in the world (Other than maybe Russia), you better have a plethora of sources and studies to back it up.Not "They just don't like to". That makes you look moronic.What about people who are sexually fluid? They'll go a few years being straight, then bi, then gay, then bi again, then back to gay, then super gay, etc, etc.Sexually fluid is something completely different - there are people who can be attracted to all genders and sexes. But thinking you can turn someone straight by shocking their genitals and holding prayer circles is a mockery of any scientific research.
Shock therapy is actually quite effective, it's just seen as unethical by some idiot liberals. And prayer might work, you don't know if He is real or not until you die.
Quote from: Icy on January 15, 2015, 03:58:33 PMQuote from: Dustin xLilD on January 15, 2015, 03:56:07 PMQuote from: Icy on January 15, 2015, 03:54:28 PMQuote from: Dustin xLilD on January 15, 2015, 03:52:29 PMQuote from: Icy on January 15, 2015, 03:50:48 PMQuote from: Dustin xLilD on January 15, 2015, 03:47:59 PMPeople can genuinely convert their sexuality, they just don't like to.If you're going to come in here with outlandish statements such as this that contradicts nearly every reputable psychological organization in the world (Other than maybe Russia), you better have a plethora of sources and studies to back it up.Not "They just don't like to". That makes you look moronic.What about people who are sexually fluid? They'll go a few years being straight, then bi, then gay, then bi again, then back to gay, then super gay, etc, etc.Sexually fluid is something completely different - there are people who can be attracted to all genders and sexes. But thinking you can turn someone straight by shocking their genitals and holding prayer circles is a mockery of any scientific research.Shock therapy is actually quite effective, it's just seen as unethical by some idiot liberals. And prayer might work, you don't know if He is real or not until you die.Show me your credentials again>you're lucky this isn't anarchy or i'd post an obscene picture right here
Quote from: Dustin xLilD on January 15, 2015, 03:56:07 PMQuote from: Icy on January 15, 2015, 03:54:28 PMQuote from: Dustin xLilD on January 15, 2015, 03:52:29 PMQuote from: Icy on January 15, 2015, 03:50:48 PMQuote from: Dustin xLilD on January 15, 2015, 03:47:59 PMPeople can genuinely convert their sexuality, they just don't like to.If you're going to come in here with outlandish statements such as this that contradicts nearly every reputable psychological organization in the world (Other than maybe Russia), you better have a plethora of sources and studies to back it up.Not "They just don't like to". That makes you look moronic.What about people who are sexually fluid? They'll go a few years being straight, then bi, then gay, then bi again, then back to gay, then super gay, etc, etc.Sexually fluid is something completely different - there are people who can be attracted to all genders and sexes. But thinking you can turn someone straight by shocking their genitals and holding prayer circles is a mockery of any scientific research.Shock therapy is actually quite effective, it's just seen as unethical by some idiot liberals. And prayer might work, you don't know if He is real or not until you die.Show me your credentials again>
Well yeah, I suppose such a thing might be possible, but wouldn't that be just like brainwashing? It's not "real," but the subject has been zonked into feeling as such. Kinda like repression?
I'm fairly certain we could alter somebody's sexuality. Just not how they're trying to do it here.
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on January 15, 2015, 04:14:01 PMIn the end, didn't Heath's study simply show that you can turn a homosexual man into a loosely bisexual prostitute by royally frying his brain with electrical stimulus, and therefore had failed in it's thesis and showed that he was a nutjob?
I would only condone this kind of therapy in areas of society where sexual impulses can potentially inflict detriment and pain to other people. Namely paedophilia.
Quote from: Madman Mordo on January 15, 2015, 06:58:58 PMI would only condone this kind of therapy in areas of society where sexual impulses can potentially inflict detriment and pain to other people. Namely paedophilia.But it doesn't work. I mean, do this, and now you've got a bunch of angry and even more frightened pedophiles who are more likely to be a danger to themselves or others.
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on January 15, 2015, 07:16:15 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on January 15, 2015, 06:58:58 PMI would only condone this kind of therapy in areas of society where sexual impulses can potentially inflict detriment and pain to other people. Namely paedophilia.But it doesn't work. I mean, do this, and now you've got a bunch of angry and even more frightened pedophiles who are more likely to be a danger to themselves or others.Perhaps I need to change my wording.What I mean when I refer to reparative therapy is to help patients cope, and to a certain extent, mitigate particularly sexual feelings (pernicious or otherwise) that they have towards children. I would never condone full on brainwashing and lobotomies, or whatever would be considered ethically dubious medical practice.I think we can both agree it's a better alternative to just locking them up and expecting them to magically stop feeling sexual towards children because they did time.
Quote from: Dustin xLilD on January 15, 2015, 03:56:07 PMShock therapy is actually quite effective, it's just seen as unethical by some idiot liberals. And prayer might work, you don't know if He is real or not until you die.Just shut the fuck up. It's times like this when I think you should actually just be barred from Serious, since all you do is alternate between being le rusemaster and then having to tell us when you're really serious.
Your Thoughts on Reparative Therapy?
