What is the scientific evidence that there are more than two genders?

Dustin · January 30, 2015, 06:14:38 PM

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Dustin · January 30, 2015, 06:25:06 PM

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Mad Max · January 30, 2015, 06:25:56 PM

Quote from: Dustin' on January 30, 2015, 06:25:06 PM

Quote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on January 30, 2015, 06:21:42 PM
There was a thread for this already.
http://sep7agon.net/index.php?topic=24950.0
Gender existing on a spectrum =/= there being more than two genders

However it does mean that gender is not binary.

Dustin · January 30, 2015, 06:28:01 PM

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Dustin · January 30, 2015, 06:35:14 PM

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Anonymous (User Deleted) · January 30, 2015, 06:47:37 PM

Quote from: Dustin' on January 30, 2015, 06:35:14 PM

Science isn't around to make you feel satisfied with what you believe, in fact it you usually does the exact opposite. There's essentially no evolutionary reasoning as to why evolution would produce genes that make homosexuals and people born in the wrong body. That's pseudo science and it's only used by people without a proper resolve.

Why aren't you permabanned from Serious?

ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ · January 30, 2015, 06:52:58 PM

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Mad Max · January 30, 2015, 06:54:26 PM

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I don't like your opinions so you should be banned
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Not at all. Considering the number of times Dustin's threads have had to be moved from Serious because they weren't appropriate shows he has no regard for actually having a serious discussion here.

Then again, they decided to give Camnator and Comms multiple chances to play nice and we see how that ended.

Dustin · January 30, 2015, 06:56:43 PM

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Anonymous (User Deleted) · January 30, 2015, 07:06:17 PM

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ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ · January 30, 2015, 07:13:31 PM

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Anonymous (User Deleted) · January 30, 2015, 07:25:23 PM

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I thought it was because I shitpost in the Flood so much

So much and so poorly.

God · January 30, 2015, 08:14:29 PM

Quote from: Dustin' on January 30, 2015, 06:35:14 PM

There's essentially no evolutionary reasoning as to why evolution would produce genes that make homosexuals and people born in the wrong body.

People ignorant of how evolution and genetics work have no business using it in their arguments. Evolution produced two sexes since it allowed for more randomness in the genetic makeup of the population between generations. This is beneficial because even though it would lead to many "unfit" individuals being born, having variations among the "fit" individuals to increase the survival rate of the species as a whole in case of any sudden environmental changes. Basically, evolution has little relevance on the individual scale, individual genetics is random (within certain parameters of course).

As for gender, everyone contains genes used by both sexes. The only thing that determines what actually develops is the SRY gene which codes for the TDF protein that regulates gene expression. If anything happens to that gene (and things happen to genes a lot) sexual development will get altered in unpredictable ways.

Dustin · January 30, 2015, 08:17:41 PM

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God · January 30, 2015, 08:35:19 PM

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That would go against the model that gender is a spectrum. The fact that genetic mutations exist wouldn't cannot explain the high rate of homosexuals and transexuals.

Mind explaining the contradiction? It's random variation, and randomness tends to fall on a spectrum.

There are all kinds of things that can go wrong with inheritance and gene regulation, and things go wrong a lot. What are the rates of homosexuality and transgenderism? Last I checked it was something like 5% and 1% maximum respectively.

🍁 Aria 🔮 · January 31, 2015, 09:17:55 AM

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Quote from: God on January 30, 2015, 08:35:19 PM
Quote from: Dustin' on January 30, 2015, 08:17:41 PM
That would go against the model that gender is a spectrum. The fact that genetic mutations exist wouldn't cannot explain the high rate of homosexuals and transexuals.

Mind explaining the contradiction? It's random variation, and randomness tends to fall on a spectrum.

There are all kinds of things that can go wrong with inheritance gene regulation, and things go wrong a lot. What are the rates of homosexuality and transgenderism? Last I checked it was something like 5% and 1% maximum respectively.
That's about right.
The only reason there seems to be so many is because humans have such an outrageously high population.

Yep, 7.2 billion people means 360 million homsexuals. Large population, low percentage.