what are your thoughts on "sugar daddying" for college students?

 
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do you think its a form of prostitution?

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article80680697.html

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As the cost of tuition and rent rises, so does the apparent popularity of such sites among students. But are they really providing financial relief, or signing women up for something more exploitative and dangerous than debt?

Kashani believes such sites are a β€œgreat resource” for young women, but others say these arrangements smack of prostitution and take advantage of women in a vulnerable situation.

Lynn Comella, an associate professor of gender and sexuality studies at University of Nevada Las Vegas, said that it is not unusual for students to turn to sex work such as stripping, prostitution or webcam work to pay for school. But the sugar daddy sites are relatively new, and she says not entirely upfront about what they are really about.


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Doesn't matter, there's nothing wrong with prostitution.


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Doesn't matter, there's nothing wrong with prostitution.


 
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Doesn't matter, there's nothing wrong with prostitution.
Except it's digesting and degrading and no decent woman wants to do it.
Except that doesn't matter. Saying that women aren't allowed to choose what to do with their own bodies is far more degrading.


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Doesn't matter, there's nothing wrong with prostitution.
Except it's digesting and degrading and no decent woman wants to do it.

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Doesn't matter, there's nothing wrong with prostitution.
Except it's digesting and degrading and no decent woman wants to do it.
Except that doesn't matter. Saying that women aren't allowed to choose what to do with their own bodies is far more degrading.
I like how you assume to know the motives and emotions of every woman


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Doesn't matter, there's nothing wrong with prostitution.
Except it's disgusting and degrading and no decent woman wants to do it.
Except that doesn't matter. Saying that women aren't allowed to choose what to do with their own bodies is far more degrading.
No it isn't. Stopping somebody from doing something for their own protection will always be the morally right thing to do.
No, it won't be. You have no right to dictate what people are allowed to do to themselves.


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how is being a prostitute more dangerous or morally wrong than being a porn star


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It's ripe for predation and abuse, and unlike other sex work it's completely unable to be regulated.



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It's ripe for predation and abuse, and unlike other sex work it's completely unable to be regulated.
because its illegal

if it was legalized and allowed in licensed businesses with proper security and protocols it would be fine.


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licensed businesses with proper security and protocols it would be fine.

What does this even mean? A business would monitor their entire lives 24/7 and make sure the client isn't abusive? The article describes it as "prostitution light", but it's far more significant than prostitution because it involves a continuous relationship (and sometimes cohabitation) instead of just sex.

Prostitution can (and is, in some places) regulated.
Stripping is regulated.
Porn and cam work is regulated.

Also, sugar daddying isn't illegal. It would only be illegal if they were explicitly exchanging money for sex, which isn't the case. There's basically no way to regulate it without forcing it to become prostitution.


 
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licensed businesses with proper security and protocols it would be fine.

What does this even mean? A business would monitor their entire lives 24/7 and make sure the client isn't abusive? The article describes it as "prostitution light", but it's far more significant than prostitution because it involves a continuous relationship (and sometimes cohabitation) instead of just sex.

Prostitution can (and is, in some places) regulated.
Stripping is regulated.
Porn and cam work is regulated.

Also, sugar daddying isn't illegal. It would only be illegal if they were explicitly exchanging money for sex, which isn't the case. There's basically no way to regulate it without forcing it to become prostitution.
they would only have clients at work, like strippers. why would they need monitored 24/7

Im talking about prostitution. these girls are basically dating somebody who they know only wants them for sex. If they get hurt its their fault. If prostitution was legal they could do that instead, or (this might be mind blowing) pay for college like everyone else.


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Doesn't matter, there's nothing wrong with prostitution.
Except it's disgusting and degrading and no decent woman wants to do it.
Except that doesn't matter. Saying that women aren't allowed to choose what to do with their own bodies is far more degrading.
No it isn't. Stopping somebody from doing something for their own protection will always be the morally right thing to do.
No, it won't be. You have no right to dictate what people are allowed to do to themselves.
I absolutely have the moral right to protect young women from an experience they will 100% regret.

The majority of people do stupid things and have no idea what they're in for. That's why these laws are in place.
You keep saying things that don't matter in the slighest. It's dangerous work - prostitutes know that and enter the business willingly regardless. A choice being stupid doesn't give you the option to forgo human rights.


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how is being a prostitute more dangerous or morally wrong than being a porn star
It's all wrong and disgusting.
sadly we cant make all things that some random dude on the internet thinks are wrong and disgusting illegal.


 
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these girls are basically dating somebody who they know only wants them for sex. If they get hurt its their fault.

Okay, so you're admitting that there's ostensibly no way to regulate this business and that it's very open to abuse?


Hey Class, should bosses be legally allowed to fuck their employees? Or teachers/students? Presidents/interns? Cops/suspects?
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these girls are basically dating somebody who they know only wants them for sex. If they get hurt its their fault.

Okay, so you're admitting that there's ostensibly no way to regulate this business and that it's very open to abuse?


Hey Class, should bosses be legally allowed to fuck their employees? Or teachers/students? Presidents/interns? Cops/suspects?
that's literally not what I said at all. This isn't a business. This a chick fucking some dude so he pays for her shit. It's been going on forever. Prostitution (the career in which sex in exchange for money) could be easily regulated


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how is being a prostitute more dangerous or morally wrong than being a porn star
It's all wrong and disgusting.
sadly we cant make all things that some random dude on the internet thinks are wrong and disgusting illegal.
Sadly we can't pay attention to an immature and shortsighted individual who

1. Thinks my views are only mine and aren't shared by millions of people
2. Takes no external factors and consequences into the equation
3. Victim blames

Sorry pal :(


>calling me a victim blamer

These girls are literally choosing to have sex with strangers because they're too stupid to lazy to get scholarships or jobs to go to college and choose 50,000 dollar a year colleges. They aren't victims they're  idiots

You've proven you're absolutely brain dead on multiple occasions so sorry I don't take you seriously lol
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ChallengedX calling somebody else immature that's fucking gold


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Hey Class, should bosses be legally allowed to fuck their employees?
If it's consensual.

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teachers/students?
Minors can't consent.

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Presidents/interns?
If it's consensual.

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Cops/suspects?
If it's consensual.


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This isn't a business.

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could be easily regulated

You recognize that it's intangible as a business, and yet you say it's easily regulated. There's no incorporation, no legal basis for the woman's income, no legal precedent for this, and it's not -- as you keep asserting -- simple prostitution. The closest it amounts to is some hybrid of indentured servitude and prostitution.
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Protecting the dignity of women is a far more important and takes priority over allowing her to be a prostitute out of some misguided ideal about personal freedom.
No, it's not. You have neither the obligation nor the right to protect people from bad choices they're consciously making.


 
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If it's consensual.

Are you completely ignorant of the legal and moral ramifications of the affect of asserting power over subordinates on consent? Do you not have even an inkling of how that applies to this particular instance, or that money is very capable of replacing power in these examples?