I find it hilarious Democrats call Republicans anti-science because they disagree with stem cell research, but have a hate boner for nuclear energy when it's a far more viable alternative to coal
I'll support it when it's not producing nuclear waste.
Quote from: SuperIrish on November 12, 2014, 05:06:02 PMThis is one of the only things that annoys me about the leftist parties here. I agree with almost totally when it comes to the Green Party, but for some damned reason they hate nuclear so much that it's beyond ridiculous.In the same sense that the business republicans have to placate its religious base so they have votes, the Green Party does the same for its hippie base. I used to be opposed to nuclear power because I was told it was harmful, but I'm not entirely sure that's actually the case, at least not with the technological advancements of modern power plants (essentially I couldn't find any research that nuclear power had any serious drawbacks).Ideally (but this is far in the future) we'd harness energy from solar panels in orbit around the sound and that way we wouldn't have to worry about where to put nuclear waste. Or maybe it would be better to convert heat energy into higher dense forms so we're at least recycling the energy, but I don't even know the basics of thermodynamics so I'm just going to stop that line of thought right there.
This is one of the only things that annoys me about the leftist parties here. I agree with almost totally when it comes to the Green Party, but for some damned reason they hate nuclear so much that it's beyond ridiculous.
Quote from: SexyPiranha on November 14, 2014, 10:10:20 PMQuote from: Dustin on November 14, 2014, 08:06:55 PMQuote from: SuperIrish on November 12, 2014, 05:06:02 PMThis is one of the only things that annoys me about the leftist parties here. I agree with almost totally when it comes to the Green Party, but for some damned reason they hate nuclear so much that it's beyond ridiculous.In the same sense that the business republicans have to placate its religious base so they have votes, the Green Party does the same for its hippie base. I used to be opposed to nuclear power because I was told it was harmful, but I'm not entirely sure that's actually the case, at least not with the technological advancements of modern power plants (essentially I couldn't find any research that nuclear power had any serious drawbacks).Ideally (but this is far in the future) we'd harness energy from solar panels in orbit around the sound and that way we wouldn't have to worry about where to put nuclear waste. Or maybe it would be better to convert heat energy into higher dense forms so we're at least recycling the energy, but I don't even know the basics of thermodynamics so I'm just going to stop that line of thought right there.This is probably how we'll get energy to earth and surrounding stations, etc. in the coming centuries, should we last that long. Although this would have to wait until we have at least a pretty decent foothold in space.Even then when operations move deeper into space nuclear will become more efficient.Well if you put the nuclear reactors in space then there's no longer an issue of where to put the nuclear waste (aim it at the Sun). But there's a proximity to the Sun where it becomes more energy efficient to use solar instead of nuclear.
Quote from: Dustin on November 14, 2014, 08:06:55 PMQuote from: SuperIrish on November 12, 2014, 05:06:02 PMThis is one of the only things that annoys me about the leftist parties here. I agree with almost totally when it comes to the Green Party, but for some damned reason they hate nuclear so much that it's beyond ridiculous.In the same sense that the business republicans have to placate its religious base so they have votes, the Green Party does the same for its hippie base. I used to be opposed to nuclear power because I was told it was harmful, but I'm not entirely sure that's actually the case, at least not with the technological advancements of modern power plants (essentially I couldn't find any research that nuclear power had any serious drawbacks).Ideally (but this is far in the future) we'd harness energy from solar panels in orbit around the sound and that way we wouldn't have to worry about where to put nuclear waste. Or maybe it would be better to convert heat energy into higher dense forms so we're at least recycling the energy, but I don't even know the basics of thermodynamics so I'm just going to stop that line of thought right there.This is probably how we'll get energy to earth and surrounding stations, etc. in the coming centuries, should we last that long. Although this would have to wait until we have at least a pretty decent foothold in space.Even then when operations move deeper into space nuclear will become more efficient.
Quote from: SexyPiranha on November 14, 2014, 10:17:40 PMQuote from: Dustin on November 14, 2014, 10:14:38 PMQuote from: SexyPiranha on November 14, 2014, 10:10:20 PMQuote from: Dustin on November 14, 2014, 08:06:55 PMQuote from: SuperIrish on November 12, 2014, 05:06:02 PMThis is one of the only things that annoys me about the leftist parties here. I agree with almost totally when it comes to the Green Party, but for some damned reason they hate nuclear so much that it's beyond ridiculous.In the same sense that the business republicans have to placate its religious base so they have votes, the Green Party does the same for its hippie base. I used to be opposed to nuclear power because I was told it was harmful, but I'm not entirely sure that's actually the case, at least not with the technological advancements of modern power plants (essentially I couldn't find any research that nuclear power had any serious drawbacks).Ideally (but this is far in the future) we'd harness energy from solar panels in orbit around the sound and that way we wouldn't have to worry about where to put nuclear waste. Or maybe it would be better to convert heat energy into higher dense forms so we're at least recycling the energy, but I don't even know the basics of thermodynamics so I'm just going to stop that line of thought right there.This is probably how we'll get energy to earth and surrounding stations, etc. in the coming centuries, should we last that long. Although this would have to wait until we have at least a pretty decent foothold in space.Even then when operations move deeper into space nuclear will become more efficient.Well if you put the nuclear reactors in space then there's no longer an issue of where to put the nuclear waste (aim it at the Sun). But there's a proximity to the Sun where it becomes more energy efficient to use solar instead of nuclear.Yeah I was basically saying the reverse. When you get a certain distance out there solar kind of loses the efficiency it had before, especially w/ a large operation that needs a lot of energy.Aren't the heaviest elements closest to the Sun though? I don't see the point in deep space mining.
Quote from: Dustin on November 14, 2014, 10:14:38 PMQuote from: SexyPiranha on November 14, 2014, 10:10:20 PMQuote from: Dustin on November 14, 2014, 08:06:55 PMQuote from: SuperIrish on November 12, 2014, 05:06:02 PMThis is one of the only things that annoys me about the leftist parties here. I agree with almost totally when it comes to the Green Party, but for some damned reason they hate nuclear so much that it's beyond ridiculous.In the same sense that the business republicans have to placate its religious base so they have votes, the Green Party does the same for its hippie base. I used to be opposed to nuclear power because I was told it was harmful, but I'm not entirely sure that's actually the case, at least not with the technological advancements of modern power plants (essentially I couldn't find any research that nuclear power had any serious drawbacks).Ideally (but this is far in the future) we'd harness energy from solar panels in orbit around the sound and that way we wouldn't have to worry about where to put nuclear waste. Or maybe it would be better to convert heat energy into higher dense forms so we're at least recycling the energy, but I don't even know the basics of thermodynamics so I'm just going to stop that line of thought right there.This is probably how we'll get energy to earth and surrounding stations, etc. in the coming centuries, should we last that long. Although this would have to wait until we have at least a pretty decent foothold in space.Even then when operations move deeper into space nuclear will become more efficient.Well if you put the nuclear reactors in space then there's no longer an issue of where to put the nuclear waste (aim it at the Sun). But there's a proximity to the Sun where it becomes more energy efficient to use solar instead of nuclear.Yeah I was basically saying the reverse. When you get a certain distance out there solar kind of loses the efficiency it had before, especially w/ a large operation that needs a lot of energy.