What's your beef with the transgender crowd?

TB · December 30, 2014, 12:46:01 AM

To be honest if someone wants me to call them by a certain name or pronoun who am I to say no?
It doesn't affect me if someone wants to be a certain thing.
So why not just do away with the needless arguing and just accept that they feel that way.

Lemy the Lizerd · December 30, 2014, 12:56:28 AM

I genuinely don't give a fuck how people identify or refer to themselves.

If someone is trans, I'm willing to start using the correct pronoun if they'd like me to.

I do not recognize gender as non-binary though and I'm not going to bother with made-up, nonstandard pronouns just to please some special snowflake.

Mad Max · December 30, 2014, 01:17:52 AM

Quote from: Lemy the Lizerd on December 30, 2014, 12:56:28 AM

I genuinely don't give a fuck how people identify or refer to themselves.

If someone is trans, I'm willing to start using the correct pronoun if they'd like me to.

I do not recognize gender as non-binary though and I'm not going to bother with made-up, nonstandard pronouns just to please some special snowflake.

I'm referring to incessantly calling someone "him" when they are not a man, or vice versa, not weird tumblr shit.

big sponge · December 30, 2014, 01:28:32 AM

I don't have one?

Magos Domina · December 30, 2014, 02:09:26 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on December 30, 2014, 12:11:40 AM

Well, I have a black friend (he's like, the only black person in upper Michigan), and he's all right, but like... I fucking hate black culture.

That's not really racist, though, is it?...

Not racist at all, hating a sub-culture is not racist, would I be a racist if I said I hated all punks or emos? No.

Magos Domina · December 30, 2014, 02:11:03 AM

Quote from: Groot on December 30, 2014, 12:33:39 AM

Quote from: / on December 30, 2014, 12:26:54 AM
They always seem to be huge fucking assholes and have a "special snowflake" mentality.

People wouldn't say that about you if you said more than 3 fucking words. (the 4th word doesn't count)

Magos Domina · December 30, 2014, 02:19:42 AM

My main beef with the TG crowd is that they're always so fucking negative. They've always got something to bitch about. And I'm not talking about major things like trans rights but stupid things like "Bisexuals shouldn't be in the LGBT" or "How dare Jared Leto play a trans woman". They've got a problem with almost every little aspect of life and attack people on the slightest disagreement.

Don't get me wrong most trans people are pretty nice and aren't miserable cunts but the ones that inhabit parts of the internet.... fuck.

Groot · December 30, 2014, 02:37:15 AM

Quote from: -Foxy- on December 30, 2014, 02:11:03 AM

Quote from: Groot on December 30, 2014, 12:33:39 AM
Quote from: / on December 30, 2014, 12:26:54 AM
They always seem to be huge fucking assholes and have a "special snowflake" mentality.

People wouldn't say that about you if you said more than 3 fucking words. (the 4th word doesn't count)

Well I don't know talkin' good like you, so my vocabulistics is limited to "I" and "am" and "Groot," exclusively in that order.

maverick · December 30, 2014, 02:53:58 AM

I've never done this but I would guess it has more to do with lack of respect for the user rather than being against all trans users.

Flee · December 30, 2014, 03:05:04 AM

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Mordo · December 30, 2014, 03:15:16 AM

I have no problem with trans people. If you want to identify as a shark or something, be my guest.

Just don't throw a tantrum if I accidentally abdicate your gender or call you by your undesired pronoun because it was never clarified.

challengerX · December 30, 2014, 03:24:41 AM

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More Than Mortal · December 30, 2014, 06:02:39 AM

People do it to Noelle because she, very quickly, would allow it to devolve into a shitstorm.

gats · December 30, 2014, 06:03:04 AM

I always try to refer to a transgender with the correct pronoun. They probably get a lot of shit irl because of who they are so it's the least I can do. That and just treating them like a normal fucking person.

rC · December 30, 2014, 09:00:33 AM

Quote from: Flee on December 30, 2014, 03:05:04 AM

Like Cheat said, it's got a lot more to do with getting a rise out of people and trolling them than actually being transphobic. The only other people that come to mind are those who do it because they don't acknowledge transsexualism and go by the biological gender alone.

i said that you cunt

Flee · December 30, 2014, 09:13:07 AM

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Dustin · December 30, 2014, 09:16:29 AM

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rC · December 30, 2014, 09:16:37 AM

Quote from: Flee on December 30, 2014, 09:13:07 AM

Quote from: (っ◕‿◕)っ RC (っ◕‿◕)っ on December 30, 2014, 09:00:33 AM
Quote from: Flee on December 30, 2014, 03:05:04 AM
Like Cheat said, it's got a lot more to do with getting a rise out of people and trolling them than actually being transphobic. The only other people that come to mind are those who do it because they don't acknowledge transsexualism and go by the biological gender alone.
i said that you cunt
Then both of you said that. >_>

i'm the only one here worthy of your brown nose, you european fuck

🍁 Aria 🔮 · December 30, 2014, 09:27:25 AM

Quote from: WBC Dustin on December 30, 2014, 09:16:29 AM

It's not natural though.

Neither are bowling balls or waffles, but here we are.

Dustin · December 30, 2014, 09:33:35 AM

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🍁 Aria 🔮 · December 30, 2014, 09:39:29 AM

Quote from: WBC Dustin on December 30, 2014, 09:33:35 AM

Quote from: Prime Meridia on December 30, 2014, 09:27:25 AM
Quote from: WBC Dustin on December 30, 2014, 09:16:29 AM
It's not natural though.
Neither are bowling balls or waffles, but here we are.
Other primates use technology too. But you don't see other animals changing their gender.

Other primates haven't created large, world spanning communication networks and nukes. Humans are always "speshul" like that. To say that it's wrong because it's unnatural is to disregard most of your modern day surroundings.

I quite frankly hate how most trans*persons (I've encountered) have half a brain when it comes to anything surrounding political correctness. Other LGBT can be the same, but it's always the trans*community that acts as the loudest.

Dustin · December 30, 2014, 09:52:59 AM

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Cheat · December 30, 2014, 09:58:13 AM

Quote from: WBC Dustin on December 30, 2014, 09:16:29 AM

It's not natural though.

Neither is the internet.

🍁 Aria 🔮 · December 30, 2014, 09:59:10 AM

I'm not claiming that it isn't a disorder, I'm saying that "it's unnatural" isn't a proper complaint.

I quite honestly believe that if there were a cure for it (besides SRS), most people would take it. It is just that this is the only "appealing" option available as of this time.

PSU · December 30, 2014, 10:20:39 AM

In my eyes, if you have a dick you're a man.

I will call you a man. Not to piss you off or anything petty like that. Its because you LITERALLY ARE a man.

Mr. Psychologist · December 30, 2014, 11:07:34 AM

Quote from: PSU on December 30, 2014, 10:20:39 AM

In my eyes, if you have a dick you're a man.

I will call you a man. Not to piss you off or anything petty like that. Its because you LITERALLY ARE a man.

So say that they had surgery to remove the crown jewels, what would you then call them?

Dustin · December 30, 2014, 11:12:13 AM

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More Than Mortal · December 30, 2014, 11:14:00 AM

Quote from: WBC Dustin on December 30, 2014, 09:52:59 AM

Changing your gender is a disorder.

Not true. Transgenderism isn't a disorder of itself, but dysmorphia is. The two are simply highly correlated.

Dustin · December 30, 2014, 11:17:33 AM

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Mad Max · December 30, 2014, 11:20:25 AM

Quote from: WBC Dustin on December 30, 2014, 11:12:13 AM

Quote from: Mr Psychologist on December 30, 2014, 11:07:34 AM
Quote from: PSU on December 30, 2014, 10:20:39 AM
In my eyes, if you have a dick you're a man.

I will call you a man. Not to piss you off or anything petty like that. Its because you LITERALLY ARE a man.

So say that they had surgery to remove the crown jewels, what would you then call them?
XX or XY

Gender has nothing to do with your chromosomes.