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Quote from: Sᴏʟ Sᴘɪʀɪᴛ on July 02, 2015, 04:06:06 AM

I think I objectively stated several times that slavery is evil.

I never disputed your ethical position on slavery. Time and time again I've asked you to prove why the attempt at secession wasn't about slavery and so far you've given me tenuous at best answers, including why they were somehow entitled to slaves.

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So I'm not sure where you're getting any of this, but I guess I'll have to go to school and get a degree in psychology to understand the logical pathways of an autistic child, then I will come back and discuss things with you in a manner you can understand.

Oh no, trust me, you don't need a degree in anything for that mate.

But I did state numerous times that the secession was not about slavery.

Honestly I'm not sure you care enough to read anyone else's posts because you're just a stubborn ass.

Stating something over and over again and then giving half assed answers doesn't automatically make something true. I thought this was obvious.

If that's the case how can you explain your behaviour throughout this entire thread?

I'm not the one asserting anything ridiculous here last I recalled.

You seem to be misremembering.

>"South secession wasn't about slavery"
Okay, explain how
>"The North's expansionary motives threatened the South's economy that was based around slavery"
Okay, so it was about slavery then
>"NO UR JUST AN AUTISTIC CHILD STOP MISINTERPRETING MY POSITION"

I think this about succinctly sums up the discussion.

But their society and economy weren't threatened because of the fact that they involved slavery.
They were threatened because they were very socioeconomically different, and Washington, controlled by a northern majority, was forcing change they weren't ready for down their throats.

You just assumed the change I was talking about was abolition, though I stated several times that abolition would not have been seen as a major threat for over another decade, had it not been for Lincoln's desperation during the war.

No actually, they got bootyblasted over the fact Lincoln won the 1860 election without gaining a Southern state, (which was perfectly within the parameters of a democracy) then subsequently became paranoid over the fact they were going to lose the driving force of the economy.

You can continue to give me all this hogwash about how the Union was a tyrannical force that threatened the sovereignty of the South, (and I'm liable to agree with you, but again, it isn't within the scope of the discussion) but the fact of the matter is slavery was, categorically, the fundamental facet as to how the Civil War began, and to dispute otherwise is really just negationism of the highest caliber.

Quote from: Cindo on June 30, 2015, 01:36:13 PM

The civil war was fought primarily over political and economic reasons, it's just that these reasons happened to revolve around slaves because that's what the southern economy was reliant on

Thus why the reconstruction period sucked so much dicks for everyone in the south

It also revolved around cotton which the North taxed to get money. The cotton tax was the main reason for the North to invade and the slavery thing was a side thing.

Thank you.

I'd like to remind everybody that there was no Civil War.
Just another American Revolution.

Quote from: Sᴏʟ Sᴘɪʀɪᴛ on July 02, 2015, 07:44:38 AM

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Quote from: Cindo on June 30, 2015, 01:36:13 PM

The civil war was fought primarily over political and economic reasons, it's just that these reasons happened to revolve around slaves because that's what the southern economy was reliant on

Thus why the reconstruction period sucked so much dicks for everyone in the south

It also revolved around cotton which the North taxed to get money. The cotton tax was the main reason for the North to invade and the slavery thing was a side thing.

Thank you.

I'd like to remind everybody that there was no Civil War.
Just another American Revolution.

who do you think picked all that fucking cotton? robots? dinosaurs?

no. slaves.

Well that might have some bearing if the taxes were only on slave picked cotton.

In fact, post slavery, share cropping kept the plantations in good shape for over 50 years, so it was even more of a non issue.

Because in reconstruction a lot of their taxes got rekt because they didn't want to start another revolution.

Quote from: Sᴏʟ Sᴘɪʀɪᴛ on July 02, 2015, 07:44:38 AM

like to remind everybody that there was no Civil War.
Just another American Revolution.

You're a special person, you know that? Do us a favor and look up the definition of 'civil war'.

>implying the south lost
WAKE UP SHEEPLE