You still justify a child being shot? Well that tells us everything.
I've entirely changed my position after watching the video.Before, I was totally behind the cops' actions. Kid had a gun, didn't comply with commands, reached for it when told to put his hands up. That's his fault.After seeing the video, it almost looks like a drive-by shooting. The kid was sitting at a table not doing anything.
Quote from: Mad Max on November 27, 2014, 07:34:57 PMI've entirely changed my position after watching the video.Before, I was totally behind the cops' actions. Kid had a gun, didn't comply with commands, reached for it when told to put his hands up. That's his fault.After seeing the video, it almost looks like a drive-by shooting. The kid was sitting at a table not doing anything.>drive-by shootingAre we watching the same video? I missed the part where they drove off after spraying the area with bullets
Quote from: aTALLmidget on November 27, 2014, 07:37:49 PMQuote from: Mad Max on November 27, 2014, 07:34:57 PMI've entirely changed my position after watching the video.Before, I was totally behind the cops' actions. Kid had a gun, didn't comply with commands, reached for it when told to put his hands up. That's his fault.After seeing the video, it almost looks like a drive-by shooting. The kid was sitting at a table not doing anything.>drive-by shootingAre we watching the same video? I missed the part where they drove off after spraying the area with bulletsThe speed at which they pulled their guns and started shooting is what I was talking about. Pull up close to someone, jump out and start shooting? That's something I expect to see in the hood from a gang - not cops.
Has it been confirmed yet that the caller repeatedly mentioned that the weapon was probably a toy but dispatch failed to pass that information on to the responding officers?
inb4ITSCUZHESBLAKSeeing the video, yeah, I understand the actions of the officer completely. I blame the kid's parent's for not being around, OR teaching him how to conduct himself with a gun, real or fake, in public and in possible presence of an officer.
Quote from: Mad Max on November 27, 2014, 07:39:30 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on November 27, 2014, 07:37:49 PMQuote from: Mad Max on November 27, 2014, 07:34:57 PMI've entirely changed my position after watching the video.Before, I was totally behind the cops' actions. Kid had a gun, didn't comply with commands, reached for it when told to put his hands up. That's his fault.After seeing the video, it almost looks like a drive-by shooting. The kid was sitting at a table not doing anything.>drive-by shootingAre we watching the same video? I missed the part where they drove off after spraying the area with bulletsThe speed at which they pulled their guns and started shooting is what I was talking about. Pull up close to someone, jump out and start shooting? That's something I expect to see in the hood from a gang - not cops. let's blame the cops again rather than demand why this kid was unsupervised and not taught how to conduct himself with a mock weapon.
This was a terrible accident, and is truly a tragedy. Blame is a little irrelevant here. Nothing will bring the child back. Some of you ITT really need to dial down your tone, as well. Show some respect.
Quote from: Sargon of Akkad on November 27, 2014, 10:47:00 PMThis was a terrible accident, and is truly a tragedy. Blame is a little irrelevant here. Nothing will bring the child back. Some of you ITT really need to dial down your tone, as well. Show some respect.No, blame IS relevant here. The parents are most to blame for not giving their child common sense and not supervising him, especially at his age
Quote from: Kinder on November 27, 2014, 10:49:34 PMQuote from: Sargon of Akkad on November 27, 2014, 10:47:00 PMThis was a terrible accident, and is truly a tragedy. Blame is a little irrelevant here. Nothing will bring the child back. Some of you ITT really need to dial down your tone, as well. Show some respect.No, blame IS relevant here. The parents are most to blame for not giving their child common sense and not supervising him, especially at his ageIs someone trying to take the officer to court over this? From what I hear he is completely heartbroken.What good is there in deciding someone is at fault when there were mistakes made by everyone?
Yea that's pretty shitty. Deadly force is suppose to be a last resort. You're not even suppose to point your gun at a person unless you've gone down the check list, and have no choice but to kill. There was no time there for the cop to give him instructions, or for him to comply. You don't just roll up and start firing before assessing a situation.
It looks like the cop shot the boy the moment he got out of the car.
Quote from: Santa Luis on November 27, 2014, 10:59:42 PMIt looks like the cop shot the boy the moment he got out of the car.Basically.
Of course, we could just stop making fake guns look so goddamn real.
Quote from: IcyWind on November 27, 2014, 11:10:08 PMOf course, we could just stop making fake guns look so goddamn real.somethingsomething immersion